[ZachTheZip]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

[g-mann17]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

[MaxZIP]

The only problem with the Buckingham site is the extremely busy rail trunk line that runs about 10 yards from the backside for the building. Having classes in the CBA was very interesting at times. The profs would have to stop talking at least twice a class due to noise from the train. It wasn't just the horn. The vibrations and squealing from the wheels on the tracks were overwhelming. I hope they use modern sound proofing technology or the building will not be the quiet sanctuary of justice they have envisioned.

[g-mann17]

The only problem with the Buckingham site is the extremely busy rail trunk line that runs about 10 yards from the backside for the building. Having classes in the CBA was very interesting at times. The profs would have to stop talking at least twice a class due to noise from the train. It wasn't just the horn. The vibrations and squealing from the wheels on the tracks were overwhelming. I hope they use modern sound proofing technology or the building will not be the quiet sanctuary of justice they have envisioned.

It's vastly improved. I had a summer class in what would be one of the closest rooms to the tracks and you noticed it, but it was not distracting.

Plus I think the plan calls for the building to sit at the current Wolf Ledges level, meaning there shouldn't be much sub-structure to pick up vibrations from the train.

[Jake]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

[zippy5]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

thought you were gonna make an entire post without complaining about a downtown arena! silly me.

[Zipsrifle]

Here is something that Akron and Cleveland both share as eyesores, major transportation arteries passing through downtown. Cleveland has thsi just north of downtown and Akron has the rail lines between UA and downtown. I've always thought that it would be beneficial to cover these areas and turn the space into a large park. Of course, This would be hugely expensive, and the benefit would be difficult to quantify. Besides, these cities are in the Midwest so there isno chance of getting billions of dollars of federal money like Boston did for the Big Dig. These arteries were vital to these cities many years ago, but now they are a bit of a nuisance. Regardless, I like the design of the new law building, fits the urban theme well.

[GP1]

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

You are very close.

A large part of the problem is people around Akron really aren't aware of what a really good school UofA has become so they think it is still the high school on the hill. Specifically, the Law School typically has one of the highest, if not the highest, rates of graduates passing the bar exam on the first try.

I'd be really interested in knowing what the average time laps has been since the average person in Summit County actually walked on campus. I know people who live in the city who probably haven't walked on campus in 20 years.

[Jake]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

thought you were gonna make an entire post without complaining about a downtown arena! silly me.

stop the personal attacks. they are getting old.

[ZippyTuba11]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

thought you were gonna make an entire post without complaining about a downtown arena! silly me.

stop the personal attacks. they are getting old.

So are your rants

[UAzipsMan]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

thought you were gonna make an entire post without complaining about a downtown arena! silly me.

stop the personal attacks. they are getting old.

[scottditzen]

I see the blight issue with Akron And Cleveland being simply a reflection of the state of public rail transportation in Ohio. The rails are used for freight, train travel is (sadly) not widely used here and there's virtually zero attention paid to aesthetics.

If we could actually use those facilities then the tracks would once again become a source of pride rather than a nuisance.

In an alternate universe there is a majestic rail station bridging the U and downtown, and it's constantly crowded with travelers coming and going from Columbus, Cleveland, Canton, Buffalo, Toronto, Chicago, NYC etc etc. But, the government instead invested in highways and subsidized suburban sprawl, and it's a big reason why our cities look like a bomb went off.

Here is something that Akron and Cleveland both share as eyesores, major transportation arteries passing through downtown. Cleveland has thsi just north of downtown and Akron has the rail lines between UA and downtown. I've always thought that it would be beneficial to cover these areas and turn the space into a large park. Of course, This would be hugely expensive, and the benefit would be difficult to quantify. Besides, these cities are in the Midwest so there isno chance of getting billions of dollars of federal money like Boston did for the Big Dig. These arteries were vital to these cities many years ago, but now they are a bit of a nuisance. Regardless, I like the design of the new law building, fits the urban theme well.

[Jake]

From the Downtown Partnership

"Welcome to Downtown Akron!
If you’re looking to get off campus and discover Akron, Downtown is the place to start. Downtown puts you in the center of many different cultural amenities, living opportunities, delicious dining options and so much more. With the expansion of the Roo Express route you can travel to and from campus in seconds. "

"22 Exchange
These brand new student living apartments are only a quarter mile from the University of Akron campus and located in the heart of Downtown Akron's entertainment district."


Even Downtown Akron admits that downtown is not on campus.

[Jake]

The plans are official.

The old one isn't bad, but the Law School is one of Akron's best programs.

Well according the ABA (the group that accredits the program) the "old one" is awful. So it's a "must do" project.

On a side note, and I know we've all mentioned it before, why does everyone in Akron hate the University so much?

Not everyone in Akron hates UA but your point is well taken. Many do and I have observed that they tend to be people who are just unhappy with themselves; those who like to see themselves as elitists, anti-culture pseudo hippies and those who are just plain stupid, anti-education hicks that still make up a large portion of the Akron population. You see this last category make up a large portion of our sister university's host community to the east. This category is also made up of those who still think downtown should return to being what it once was in the 50s and 60s, which will never happen.

Worse than those who hate UA are those who are indifferent to it. They only acknowledge the university when they want to exploit it to achieve an agenda that is political or self-serving. The mayor is one of these people and the leadership at the ABJ is made up of these people. They are very parochial Akron dinosaurs who like individual facilities or services of the university ( E.J. Thomas Hall, the new stadium) but beyond that make UA invisible. These are the people who separate UA's athletics from the university and who want UA to build a new arena downtown instead of on the campus where it belongs. And don't let them kid you. They hate that the new football stadium is on the campus and not downtown. They are also the group of people who make too big of a deal about the Polsky Building being a pseudo-university facility. At best they see UA only in pieces and parts and cherry pick the parts they like at the expense of the university as a whole. It is this group of indifferent parochials who keep The University of Akron from coming off to the region as a real and authentic institution of higher education. To them it's just the same old "Akron U".

thought you were gonna make an entire post without complaining about a downtown arena! silly me.

Actually, the idea of a downtown off campus arena is one of the many symptoms that contribute to the much bigger problem of Akronites and students not appreciating UA.

[Zipsrifle]

I see the blight issue with Akron And Cleveland being simply a reflection of the state of public rail transportation in Ohio. The rails are used for freight, train travel is (sadly) not widely used here and there's virtually zero attention paid to aesthetics.

If we could actually use those facilities then the tracks would once again become a source of pride rather than a nuisance.

In an alternate universe there is a majestic rail station bridging the U and downtown, and it's constantly crowded with travelers coming and going from Columbus, Cleveland, Canton, Buffalo, Toronto, Chicago, NYC etc etc. But, the government instead invested in highways and subsidized suburban sprawl, and it's a big reason why our cities look like a bomb went off.

Here is something that Akron and Cleveland both share as eyesores, major transportation arteries passing through downtown. Cleveland has thsi just north of downtown and Akron has the rail lines between UA and downtown. I've always thought that it would be beneficial to cover these areas and turn the space into a large park. Of course, This would be hugely expensive, and the benefit would be difficult to quantify. Besides, these cities are in the Midwest so there isno chance of getting billions of dollars of federal money like Boston did for the Big Dig. These arteries were vital to these cities many years ago, but now they are a bit of a nuisance. Regardless, I like the design of the new law building, fits the urban theme well.

I couldn't agree more.