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QB Clay Cameron from Tri-Valley HS near Zanesville, OH will become a preferred walk-on at Akron this year, switching to the linebacker position.



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QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.



Maybe the Zips get him to put on 20-25 lbs of muscle and stick him at fullback. We're sort of lead to believe his lack of speed (40 time) prevented the D-1 scholarship. But could he really be any slower than Chris R-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-e-y?


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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


The Minnesota Vikings drafted QB Joe Webb out of UAB this past April, with thoughts of converting him into "The Next Josh Cribbs." They gave him a token look at QB, and now he's #3 on the QB depth chart.

You never know how things pan-out. I give the Cameron credit for doing whatever it takes to get his foot in the door.



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QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 01:15 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


The Minnesota Vikings drafted QB Joe Webb out of UAB this past April, with thoughts of converting him into "The Next Josh Cribbs." They gave him a token look at QB, and now he's #3 on the QB depth chart.

You never know how things pan-out. I give the Cameron credit for doing whatever it takes to get his foot in the door.

I'm thinking he may make a good number 3 QB here. Slow QBs hurt you less than slow linebackers.



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Cameron will be a gem for the Zips.

They really, really love this kid down in Zanesville.



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.



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QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.



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QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.

This was a wonderful explanation, but you completely ignored the inter-squad inequity issue.
I believe the only way to correct this problem is to require all teams to start their seasons on the same week.



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 05:31 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.

This was a wonderful explanation, but you completely ignored the inter-squad inequity issue.
I believe the only way to correct this problem is to require all teams to start their seasons on the same week.


Teams can have walk-on tryouts whenever they want, most teams just wait until school starts so they don't have to pay to house, transport, and feed a bunch of guys during camp who have no chance to play. I believe the NCAA cap for guys in camp is 105, but most teams won't carry that many to camp. I'm not really sure where the inequity is?



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QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 05:31 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.

This was a wonderful explanation, but you completely ignored the inter-squad inequity issue.
I believe the only way to correct this problem is to require all teams to start their seasons on the same week.


Teams can have walk-on tryouts whenever they want, most teams just wait until school starts so they don't have to pay to house, transport, and feed a bunch of guys during camp who have no chance to play. I believe the NCAA cap for guys in camp is 105, but most teams won't carry that many to camp. I'm not really sure where the inequity is?

Now hold on a sec there partner. You told me before that tryouts were not held until the first week of the season. Now you say they can be held anytime they want. That means that they could hold them the week before practice starts, but the guy who wrote the article which started me wondering in the first place says that regular walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time as scholarship players. So just what's goin on here? Were you streachen the truth before, or now?



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 08:02 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 07:33 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 05:31 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.

This was a wonderful explanation, but you completely ignored the inter-squad inequity issue.
I believe the only way to correct this problem is to require all teams to start their seasons on the same week.


Teams can have walk-on tryouts whenever they want, most teams just wait until school starts so they don't have to pay to house, transport, and feed a bunch of guys during camp who have no chance to play. I believe the NCAA cap for guys in camp is 105, but most teams won't carry that many to camp. I'm not really sure where the inequity is?

Now hold on a sec there partner. You told me before that tryouts were not held until the first week of the season. Now you say they can be held anytime they want. That means that they could hold them the week before practice starts, but the guy who wrote the article which started me wondering in the first place says that regular walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time as scholarship players. So just what's goin on here? Were you streachen the truth before, or now?


What do you not understand?? At Akron, walk-on tryouts are the first week of school (at least they always have been), so if you aren't a preferred walk-on, you can't start practicing until the first week of school when you make the team. There's no NCAA rule on when you can hold walk-on tryouts, but almost all programs hold them when school starts. There's no point in bringing in scout team guys when there's no scout team in camp, and there's no point in paying for guys to eat and sleep on campus when they will be getting no reps in camp. What the heck are you confused about, and where exactly did I contradict myself?



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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 08:02 PM) *
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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 05:31 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 13 2010, 12:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 13 2010, 12:32 PM) *
QUOTE(InTheZone @ Jul 12 2010, 09:16 PM) *
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 8 2010, 12:52 PM) *
QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Jul 8 2010, 08:30 AM) *

The first sentence of this piece has me wondering. "It has been nearly nine months since Tri-Valley's Clay Cameron capped a superb high football school career." I知 not sure whether to be happy the kid went to a football school or upset that apparently he was always high. I did learn something new. Had no idea walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time scholarship players do. Also it sounds like the kid isn't sold on being a linebacker.


Preferred walk-ons always go to camp with the team and are usually treated just like scholarship players with opportunities to compete for spots. Try-out walk-ons are added after tryouts the first week of the season, and are brought in as scout team fodder.

Well that just doesn't seem right. Who are teams going to use to fill out their scout team for their first game if they can't even have walk-on tryouts until the first week of the season? And doesn't this put teams whose season starts later in the year at a disadvantage?


Oh most preferred walk-ons will still end up on scout team once the season starts, as will all scholarship players getting redshirted or transfers sitting out (I hear Luke Getsy was one heluva scout team QB in '04). Preferred are just given an opportunity to compete and work in during camp, whereas the tryout guys, they'll be lucky if a coach or GA ever even learns their name.... they're scout team from the start. Being on scout team for the first game sucks because those guys never get a blow in practice, but once the try-out guys come in you have more bodies to throw in there and keep guys fresh.

This was a wonderful explanation, but you completely ignored the inter-squad inequity issue.
I believe the only way to correct this problem is to require all teams to start their seasons on the same week.


Teams can have walk-on tryouts whenever they want, most teams just wait until school starts so they don't have to pay to house, transport, and feed a bunch of guys during camp who have no chance to play. I believe the NCAA cap for guys in camp is 105, but most teams won't carry that many to camp. I'm not really sure where the inequity is?

Now hold on a sec there partner. You told me before that tryouts were not held until the first week of the season. Now you say they can be held anytime they want. That means that they could hold them the week before practice starts, but the guy who wrote the article which started me wondering in the first place says that regular walk-ons cannot start practicing at the same time as scholarship players. So just what's goin on here? Were you streachen the truth before, or now?

Is this a fan board or are we testifying in front of Congress?


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