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Jul 18 2012, 02:22 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 159 Joined: 3-January 12 Member No.: 6273 |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:27 PM
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![]() Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6271 Joined: 23-February 04 From: The Burg Member No.: 5 |
QUOTE Dalton’s style of play didn’t suit Bowden’s offense. Used to using his feet more, the coach prefers pocket passers who can run his up tempo, no-huddle style. Did you mean "Moore's style?"
-------------------- ![]() "One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings"--Diogenes of Sinope |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:29 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 323 Joined: 5-October 06 Member No.: 637 |
4th paragraph. I think you mean Clayton. Thanks so much for posting. I love the inside scoop. Have you been able to catch up with our 3rd recruit yet? I have been waiting to see that article. Sorry if I missed it. |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:34 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 15-January 12 Member No.: 6291 |
The big question will be whether or not there will be a pocket to throw in next season.
-------------------- My middle name is Intelligence...OK, it's actually just Allen.
Bobby Bowden follows me on Twitter...and who are you??? |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:36 PM
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![]() Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 6271 Joined: 23-February 04 From: The Burg Member No.: 5 |
The big question will be whether or not there will be a pocket to throw in next season. From the sound of what coach Bowden is telling us, the ball will leave the pocket much quicker.-------------------- ![]() "One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings"--Diogenes of Sinope |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:42 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3159 Joined: 15-March 06 Member No.: 432 |
The big question will be whether or not there will be a pocket to throw in next season. That's another problem we've had the last couple of years; QBs throwing the ball in the pocket. We need a QB who can throw from the pocket to one of our team's eligible receivers who is outside the pocket. |
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Jul 18 2012, 02:53 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5425 Joined: 5-December 04 From: Green, Ohio Member No.: 120 |
OK, so in the old Nicely vs. Moore debate, who voted "neither?"
No disrespect intended toward either player. They were both in bad situations under the previous coaching staff, and neither suited the style of the new coaching staff. Both QBs took some really hard hits along the way, and I was especially worried about Moore's longterm health the way he was being frequently leveled. I wish the same good luck to Moore in finding a better situation that I did to Nicely. |
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Jul 18 2012, 04:21 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 271 Joined: 6-January 07 Member No.: 858 |
OK, so in the old Nicely vs. Moore debate, who voted "neither?" No disrespect intended toward either player. They were both in bad situations under the previous coaching staff, and neither suited the style of the new coaching staff. Both QBs took some really hard hits along the way, and I was especially worried about Moore's longterm health the way he was being frequently leveled. I wish the same good luck to Moore in finding a better situation that I did to Nicely. Bringing in a one-and-done player at QB makes me suspicious of Bowden's long-term plans. Is he hoping for a quick fix and new job? It's not really textbook approach for building a program. |
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Jul 18 2012, 04:28 PM
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Only a Zips fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10514 Joined: 18-July 06 From: The edge of the Allegheny plateau Member No.: 483 |
Bringing in a one-and-done player at QB makes me suspicious of Bowden's long-term plans. Is he hoping for a quick fix and new job? It's not really textbook approach for building a program. It makes sense if you don't have anybody else on the roster who knows enough of the offense to start, but plenty of freshmen who need a year to learn. Starting a young QB who is not ready is the worst possible thing to do if you have long-term plans. |
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Jul 18 2012, 04:36 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 905 Joined: 30-January 06 From: Brunswick, Ohio Member No.: 337 |
He already has a verbal from his style quarterback. Getting a one and done in here that can win ball games is exactly what Bowden needs to do. We need to win some games to help on the recruiting front.
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Jul 18 2012, 04:37 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2889 Joined: 26-February 05 Member No.: 142 |
It makes sense if you don't have anybody else on the roster who knows enough of the offense to start, but plenty of freshmen who need a year to learn. Starting a young QB who is not ready is the worst possible thing to do if you have long-term plans. True, but it would be unwise to not let the freshman QB get some real game minutes thoughout the season. He may not be ready from game one, but by the time the MAC season starts he should be getting some meaningful minutes. Please don't let this guy only come in when the game is almost over. We need to develop the next QB for the next 3 years. -------------------- Half Buck, Half Zip, All Man.
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Jul 18 2012, 04:42 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1390 Joined: 15-March 05 From: In the Zone... of course Member No.: 154 |
I don't think Dalton Williams is going to light the world on fire, but if he comes out of nowhere and starts putting up big numbers and winning games, then by all means keep him in and let him finish the season as starter. I don't care if he's one and done, winning games will do a lot more for the program long term than playing a guy who isn't ready just to get him meaningful minutes and prepare for next year. I hope Kyle Pohl overtakes Williams on his own right this season, but if he doesn't run the offense better then I'm sure he'll be just fine getting ready for next season by taking notes from the sidelines and getting reps with the 1's come spring time.
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Jul 18 2012, 04:45 PM
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![]() Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 498 Joined: 31-August 07 From: Akron Member No.: 3589 |
That's another problem we've had the last couple of years; QBs throwing the ball in the pocket. We need a QB who can throw from the pocket to one of our team's eligible receivers who is outside the pocket. Thanks, Zipmeister. I just spit Diet Mountain Dew all over my new flat-screen and keyboard from laughing so hard. -------------------- What's a Zip? Your worst fricking nightmare.
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Jul 18 2012, 05:06 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 665 Joined: 23-February 04 Member No.: 16 |
I don't think Dalton Williams is going to light the world on fire, but if he comes out of nowhere and starts putting up big numbers and winning games, then by all means keep him in and let him finish the season as starter. I don't care if he's one and done, winning games will do a lot more for the program long term than playing a guy who isn't ready just to get him meaningful minutes and prepare for next year. I hope Kyle Pohl overtakes Williams on his own right this season, but if he doesn't run the offense better then I'm sure he'll be just fine getting ready for next season by taking notes from the sidelines and getting reps with the 1's come spring time. He might. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't relinquish the starting role. Then next year, we need to find another 5th year transfer to come and play qb for the Zips. In fact, I would hire a GA to create a data base on all D1 and IAA QB's across the nation and find out who would be eligible to play for us next year. Then go and recruit him... |
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Jul 18 2012, 05:07 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6714 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
Starting a young QB who is not ready is the worst possible thing to do if you have long-term plans. It depends on the plan. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm Ok with a player starting as a freshman and taking a bit of a beating as long as it doesn't destroy him. Learning from the bench is nonsense. That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger. The long term plan for a college athlete who is capable of starting his freshman year shouldn't be a gradual improvement process over for years....that's for high school kids and small thinkers. A player capable of starting as a freshman should have a big jump in his ability between his freshman and soph seasons with gradual improvement after those seasons, but not the big jump. The freshman will start after the ooc schedule is complete. It's a lot easier to play against the mac than Tennessee or UCF. He'll still have some bumps along the way, but he'll be better off for it in the long run. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
"Any fool can make something complicated. It takes a genius to make it simple." - Woody Guthrie |
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