[Spin]

I'm over it, and I wish a lot of other people were too.

Every city has lost free agents, nobody acts like Cleveland does. And we are a joke to the rest of the nation. Did anyone else hear Mike Tyson singing the other day?

He had every right to leave, and he left. Maybe he did it the wrong way, but I have left some jobs the wrong way over the years. He was immature, and he was told over and over by the fans and media that he never had a college signing day, he never sat in front of the camera with 3 or 4 hats on the table, and picked one up and put it on. That he missed out. So he did that. And now those same people are still pissed two years later. It got to the point the "fans" were cheering for the NBA's Baltimore Ravens to beat the hometown guy.

He's not the first player to join another "alpha dog's" team to get a ring, the best example I can think of this early in the morning is A-Rod. I don't hear Ranger's fans still thumping their chest over that one. And I get it he is the hometown guy, but why wasn't there so much hate when Scott Fletcher turned down the Indians?

I'm a born and bred Cleveland fanatic, but I still don't get it. I'm not as much of a fan of his as I was, but I still hope he does well.

[Jacob M]

He's not the first player to join another "alpha dog's" team to get a ring, the best example I can think of this early in the morning is A-Rod. I don't hear Ranger's fans still thumping their chest over that one. And I get it he is the hometown guy, but why wasn't there so much hate when Scott Fletcher turned down the Indians?

A-Rod was traded. That example doesn't apply. Besides, you can't compare superstars joining forces to get rings in baseball as opposed to basketball. Basketball much more of an individual sport where one superstar can carry a team to a large part. Then rivalries are built off those superstar's teams going head to head. To see the NBA become a league where superstars want to join each other instead of beating each other is what has really turned me off to the league. I've gotten over my hate of LeBron. I was rooting against the Heat though due to the principle I just outlined. That said, I didn't watch 5 minutes of the playoffs.

[Class of 82]

As a Cavs fan, I was certainly disappointed to see LeBron leave. (And the way he and Maverick set the thing up was a PR disaster of epic proportions.) But it didn't take me very long to move beyond that, especially since the arrival of Kyrie Irving.

But I'm still a LeBron guy, and always will be. Mostly because LeBron is an Akron kid like me. I watched him play in high school. I've watched him develop into one of the greatest players in history. I like how he's added to the legacy of great Akron players like Nate Thurmond, Gus Johnson and Jerome Lane (not much of a pro, but a pretty great college player at Pitt). And for all the fame, accolades and cash thrown at him at such a young age, I like how, behind the ego, he remains generally a pretty decent guy.

So, congrats to him. Just wish he would have realized how winning it all in championship-starved Cleveland would have been twice the achievement.

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A-Rod was traded. That example doesn't apply.

It was a technicality. Technically, LeBron was "traded" too. He did a sign-and-trade after he elected to go to Miami in order to allow the Cavs to recover more money on thier salary cap for their future.

I just want to point that out, since some people still want to run around saying that he was trying to screw Cleveland. That wasn't the case. He could have walked away without the Cavs gaining anything. And if he had known that Gilbert was going to go on a whining, irrational tirade after he left, I wish he would have considered just walking away without giving them anything.

It shouldn't be any mystery to anyone why Cleveland remains a loser city.

[Dr Z]

It was a technicality. Technically, LeBron was "traded" too. He did a sign-and-trade after he elected to go to Miami in order to allow the Cavs to recover more money on thier salary cap for their future. I just want to point that out, since some people still want to run around saying that he was trying to screw Cleveland.

Now tell me again, what did the Cavs get in this trade for the greatest basketball player on the planet? I think I missed that in all the chaos that was created.

[Spin]

Now tell me again, what did the Cavs get in this trade for the greatest basketball player on the planet? I think I missed that in all the chaos that was created.

Two first round draft picks and two second round draft picks. Would those be Tristan Thompson and Milan Macvan?

[LZip]

Two first round draft picks and two second round draft picks. Would those be Tristan Thompson and Milan Macvan?

No. Maybe Milan. Not Tristan.

[Dr Z]

No. Maybe Milan. Not Tristan.

Maybe it was because Milan wasn't on the roster, but I didn't realize we got a 22 year old Serbian power forward for LBJ. That was some trade. Wonder if he ever went one on one with Cvetinovic?

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Now tell me again, what did the Cavs get in this trade for the greatest basketball player on the planet? I think I missed that in all the chaos that was created.

Two first round picks, two second round picks, and a 15 million exemption on their salary cap.

They could have been left with nothing. He was a free agent. With the way so many people in Cleveland decided to act like idiots, and think he "screwed" them, and the behavior of their owner, they deserved to be left with nothing.

[Spin]

Two first round picks, two second round picks, and a 15 million exemption on their salary cap.

They could have been left with nothing. He was a free agent. With the way so many people in Cleveland decided to act like idiots, and think he "screwed" them, and the behavior of their owner, they deserved to be left with nothing.

+1

Bron never said he was going to stay, never said it wasn't about the money, and then left for more $$$$$. You know, then same guy we sold out the stadium to see come back and almost built a statue for at Gateway...

[Jacob M]

+1

Bron never said he was going to stay, never said it wasn't about the money, and then left for more $$$$$. You know, then same guy we sold out the stadium to see come back and almost built a statue for at Gateway...

Don't get me started on this one. That love-fest last September made me sick! It's a joke that guy is going to get a statue before other greats like Larry Doby.