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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jul 2 2012, 11:42 PM)  No apology needed for suggesting one wait till all the facts are in before "rushing to judgement." Is it alright to have an opinion at this point? I am sure there will be some more facts discovered. -------------------- Bitter member of the venomous minority.
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Jul 3 2012, 06:31 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 3162 Joined: 15-March 06 Member No.: 432 |
QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Jul 3 2012, 05:40 AM) Is it alright to have an opinion at this point? I am sure there will be some more facts discovered. I believe it is now acceptable to have both an opinion and to have "rushed to judgement." At the margin, the difference between all the facts and the facts now known appears to be effectively zero. |
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Jul 3 2012, 01:27 PM
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John Harris of the Tribune writes that This is Only the Beginning for PSU
QUOTE It’s the biggest sports story in our lifetime. Bigger than steroids in Major League Baseball,
bigger than Spygate and bounties in the NFL, bigger than NBA players fighting fans in the stands. --------------------  "One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings"--Diogenes of Sinope |
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Jul 12 2012, 07:19 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6715 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
Deadspin at its best again.
Anyone remember the old X Files show? Fox Mulder always had that sign on his office wall that said, "I Want To Believe". That's what a lot of sports fans do with the people they see on TV. For many PSU fans, Paterno could never be a guy who covered something up because he wanted to continue to coach and wanted to win more games. For OSU fans, Tressel was just a guy protecting his players and not someone who needed those guys to win games so he covered everything up to keep them on the field. It's the either/or high school debate club nature of media and society these days. Deadspin has a lot on it that is funny. Normally they are at their best when they are taking a crap on someone who deserves it. Every once in a while, they do something serious and it almost is always great. This is a good example. Why? It presents the "and" issue that someone can do good deeds and do something really self serving and just plain wrong. I love a good "and" article. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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Jul 12 2012, 08:17 AM
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-------------------- "Build it, and they can't tear it down.......not for a good 15-20 years anyway."
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Jul 12 2012, 09:36 AM
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I am listening to the press conference on the radio and if this isn't the definition of lack of institutional control...I'm not sure what is. Given the penalties other schools have seen for "FAR" lesser things I hope the PSU football program gets the death penalty. SMU got the death penalty for drugs and cheating....allowing children to be molested on your campus is the worst. I said allowing because the lack of care regarding this by these children is disgusing.
On a side note the blinded PSU fans and alumni who continue to try to defend Joe Paterno (my relatives included) disturb me to no end. |
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Jul 12 2012, 06:45 PM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Joined: 10-January 10 From: Ashland, Ohio Member No.: 5468 |
GP1,
Thanks for the deadspin link. Just spent a half hour reading Penn State stories there. Some of the comments after the stories are better than the stories. There is some outrageous, piss-your-pants black humor in there if you're into that kind of thing. -------------------- Bitter member of the venomous minority.
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Jul 12 2012, 06:55 PM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 1463 Joined: 10-January 10 From: Ashland, Ohio Member No.: 5468 |
QUOTE(Big Zip @ Jul 12 2012, 10:36 AM) I am listening to the press conference on the radio and if this isn't the definition of lack of institutional control...I'm not sure what is. Given the penalties other schools have seen for "FAR" lesser things I hope the PSU football program gets the death penalty. SMU got the death penalty for drugs and cheating....allowing children to be molested on your campus is the worst. I said allowing because the lack of care regarding this by these children is disgusing. On a side note the blinded PSU fans and alumni who continue to try to defend Joe Paterno (my relatives included) disturb me to no end. This is the biggest scandal in sports history. It is sick and disgusting. Child molesters are the 2nd lowest form of human life, only surpassed by those who enable them. This makes the whole Penn State aura about doing things the right way a hollow and superficial advertising campaign. To think...Paterno once condemned Jackie Sherrill and Barry Switzer. Disgusting. -------------------- Bitter member of the venomous minority.
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Jan 3 2013, 07:48 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6715 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
-------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
"Any fool can make something complicated. It takes a genius to make it simple." - Woody Guthrie |
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Jan 3 2013, 08:10 AM
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Jan 3 2013, 08:45 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6715 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jan 3 2013, 08:10 AM) Your best post - ever.  A little trouble with the hyper link function, but I pulled it off.... -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
"Any fool can make something complicated. It takes a genius to make it simple." - Woody Guthrie |
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Jan 3 2013, 01:10 PM
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-------------------- Those who have invested the most are the last to surrender.
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Jan 3 2013, 06:03 PM
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They would be so much better off just keeping the story out of the news. Instead they prove over and over again that they place football above all.
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