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Maybe next time research a little bit before posting tripe like this.

NIA is founded by Jonathan Lebed who in the early part the last decade used internet chat rooms to promote and sell penny stocks that he owned to artificially raise their price. He was and currently is being investigated by the SEC for market tampering. The video itself is to sell "secure gold and silver" as means of saving money. Something that is bound to burst in the next 4-5 years. Why? Because he owns a lot of it and wants to sell at the highest prices possible.


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QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:53 PM) *
NIA is founded by Jonathan Lebed who in the early part the last decade used internet chat rooms to promote and sell penny stocks that he owned to artificially raise their price. He was and currently is being investigated by the SEC for market tampering. The video itself is to sell "secure gold and silver" as means of saving money. Something that is bound to burst in the next 4-5 years. Why? Because he owns a lot of it and wants to sell at the highest prices possible.

I know exactly who Lebed is. He is a scam artist, and the NIA has been promoting his pump and dump schemes for a while now.

That said, much of their rhetoric(this video included) is very realistic. Furthermore, your claim that gold and silver will "burst in the next 4-5 years" is..well...odd.

I think you're confusing Lebed's money making schemes with the overall precious metals market. Lebed's "pump and dump" schemes will take much less than 4-5 years to "burst". Meanwhile, the precious metals market will probably keep rising(with some hiccups) as long as central banks keep devaluing currencies.

But thanks for pointing out to people that the NIA is NOT a group that people should be considering. The message this video sends, however, is very real.


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QUOTE(Can't State sucks @ Jun 10 2011, 02:50 PM) *
QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:53 PM) *
NIA is founded by Jonathan Lebed who in the early part the last decade used internet chat rooms to promote and sell penny stocks that he owned to artificially raise their price. He was and currently is being investigated by the SEC for market tampering. The video itself is to sell "secure gold and silver" as means of saving money. Something that is bound to burst in the next 4-5 years. Why? Because he owns a lot of it and wants to sell at the highest prices possible.

I know exactly who Lebed is. He is a scam artist, and the NIA has been promoting his pump and dump schemes for a while now.

That said, much of their rhetoric(this video included) is very realistic. Furthermore, your claim that gold and silver will "burst in the next 4-5 years" is..well...odd.

I think you're confusing Lebed's money making schemes with the overall precious metals market. Lebed's "pump and dump" schemes will take much less than 4-5 years to "burst". Meanwhile, the precious metals market will probably keep rising(with some hiccups) as long as central banks keep devaluing currencies.

But thanks for pointing out to people that the NIA is NOT a group that people should be considering. The message this video sends, however, is very real.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. It's that damn Mexican Central Bank and its insidious plot for world domination via its annual peso devaluation scheme that is the real problem.



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QUOTE(Can't State sucks @ Jun 10 2011, 02:50 PM) *
QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:53 PM) *
NIA is founded by Jonathan Lebed who in the early part the last decade used internet chat rooms to promote and sell penny stocks that he owned to artificially raise their price. He was and currently is being investigated by the SEC for market tampering. The video itself is to sell "secure gold and silver" as means of saving money. Something that is bound to burst in the next 4-5 years. Why? Because he owns a lot of it and wants to sell at the highest prices possible.

I know exactly who Lebed is. He is a scam artist, and the NIA has been promoting his pump and dump schemes for a while now.

That said, much of their rhetoric(this video included) is very realistic. Furthermore, your claim that gold and silver will "burst in the next 4-5 years" is..well...odd.

I think you're confusing Lebed's money making schemes with the overall precious metals market. Lebed's "pump and dump" schemes will take much less than 4-5 years to "burst". Meanwhile, the precious metals market will probably keep rising(with some hiccups) as long as central banks keep devaluing currencies.

But thanks for pointing out to people that the NIA is NOT a group that people should be considering. The message this video sends, however, is very real.

Then return your degree if you think it has no value. No one ever promised a job to a degree holder, they promised potential, and most people take "easy money" majors or majors that have no bearing on the real world, English? Really!

As for precious metals, I sure hope you aren't in finance. At some point interest rates will have to rise.


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QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Jun 10 2011, 03:28 PM) *
I think you have hit the nail on the head. It's that damn Mexican Central Bank and its insidious plot for world domination via its annual peso devaluation scheme that is the real problem.

cool.gif Yup. We should ignore the saints at the Federal Reserve. Damn central American banking cartels. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 03:31 PM) *
Then return your degree if you think it has no value. No one ever promised a job to a degree holder, they promised potential, and most people take "easy money" majors or majors that have no bearing on the real world, English? Really!


I'm only trying to introduce discussion on the subject. In the long term, there are going to be huge changes in higher education. I'm not so sure UA's administration is at all prepared for these changes.


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As for precious metals, I sure hope you aren't in finance. At some point interest rates will have to rise.

I wonder what the US currency will look like by that point? wave.gif


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QUOTE(Can't State sucks @ Jun 10 2011, 03:55 PM) *
I'm only trying to introduce discussion on the subject. In the long term, there are going to be huge changes in higher education. I'm not so sure UA's administration is at all prepared for these changes.


Luis Proenza is helping to lead the change, so I am pretty sure our administration is very prepared. There's a lot of talk on tuition and college costs, but what people fail to realize is that when you account for the actual contributions that states made to schools 30-40 years ago on a per student basis, the cost of attending school hasn't increased, its been moved to the student. Tuition has increased exponentially outside of inflation while budgets have stayed in the same general area. If we really cared about growing the economy we would go back to actually funding education and not funding test taking.



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Wow, that infomercial was about 90 percent BS.
If you like that, just wait until you see this great way to build muscle. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 04:51 PM) *
Luis Proenza is helping to lead the change, so I am pretty sure our administration is very prepared.


Luis Proenza is a great president in terms of building new structures on campus and raising cash from big time donors. Obviously, this makes him very popular on a site like zipsnation, because athletics is one of the major benefactors of his ambitious plans.

How would the university fare if the enrollment at universities began to shrink? What happens when higher education can no longer be looked at as a "right"? I know this sounds far-fetched, but it's a possibility for our future.

I hope that I'm dead wrong, but I just don't see anything that suggests our administrators have any clue as to what the future could hold for higher education.


QUOTE(g-mann17 @ Jun 10 2011, 04:51 PM) *
There's a lot of talk on tuition and college costs, but what people fail to realize is that when you account for the actual contributions that states made to schools 30-40 years ago on a per student basis, the cost of attending school hasn't increased, its been moved to the student.

I'm confused. What do you mean when you say that cost"hasn't increased, it's been moved to the student"?


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