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Zips Junkie  Group: Members Posts: 1867 Joined: 13-March 07 Member No.: 1376  |
I can't understand how he could have any allegiance to iCoach and would want to follow him.
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Dec 22 2011, 08:03 PM
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Only a Zips fan Group: Members Posts: 10552 Joined: 18-July 06 From: The edge of the Allegheny plateau Member No.: 483 |
QUOTE(akronzips71 @ Dec 22 2011, 07:54 PM)  I can't understand how he could have any allegiance to iCoach and would want to follow him. Perhaps a promised starting spot at a BCS school is enough. What other BCS team would he be able to start for? But at the same time, all the former Akron coaches at Kansas coach the offense and not the defense, so I don't know how they can make such a promise. |
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Dec 22 2011, 08:27 PM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 1867 Joined: 13-March 07 Member No.: 1376 |
I am not knocking him, but maybe he won't be such a star playing against BCS players and with BCS players along side him to make tackles.
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Dec 22 2011, 08:34 PM
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 Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 4295 Joined: 11-February 06 From: Hartville, OH Member No.: 370 |
QUOTE(akronzips71 @ Dec 22 2011, 08:27 PM) I am not knocking him, but maybe he won't be such a star playing against BCS players and with BCS players along side him to make tackles. I love BW & hope he stays. But he rarely "blew up" a play. Most of his tackles were 3,4 & 5 yards downfield. He's excellent at reading plays. But I really believe a big reason his stats were so gaudy was because the rest of the team was so weak. Someone had to make the tackle. It was usually BW. I think he'll kinda disappear on a team with more talent. IMHO, his best bet (for NFL exposure) would be to remain a Zip. -------------------- Terry Bowden. Keith Dambrot. Rick Rembielak. Chuck Amato. Terrell Buckley. Jim Tressel. How ya like dem apples, Terry Pluto?! This is AKRON!
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Dec 22 2011, 09:14 PM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 5511 Joined: 5-December 04 From: Green, Ohio Member No.: 120 |
Terry Bowden is said to be a great motivational speaker. Motivating Wagner to return to UA for his final season would be a great way to demonstrate that ability.
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Dec 22 2011, 09:41 PM
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 Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 2893 Joined: 26-February 05 Member No.: 142 |
QUOTE(Blue & Gold @ Dec 22 2011, 08:34 PM) QUOTE(akronzips71 @ Dec 22 2011, 08:27 PM) I am not knocking him, but maybe he won't be such a star playing against BCS players and with BCS players along side him to make tackles. I love BW & hope he stays. But he rarely "blew up" a play. Most of his tackles were 3,4 & 5 yards downfield. He's excellent at reading plays. But I really believe a big reason his stats were so gaudy was because the rest of the team was so weak. Someone had to make the tackle. It was usually BW. I think he'll kinda disappear on a team with more talent. IMHO, his best bet (for NFL exposure) would be to remain a Zip. Exactly right. Wagner is a good MAC player. He is the only good player on the UA defense. He wouldn't even start om most of the top 40 teams in the country, let alone be a star. -------------------- Half Buck, Half Zip, All Man.
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Dec 22 2011, 10:06 PM
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 Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 5-July 08 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 4989 |
Wagner's best move, by FAR, will be to stay with the Zips and dedicate his last year at UA to turning the ship in the right direction. If he has NFL talent, he'll get a fair shot in the NFL regardless. It's foolish for him to think otherwise, especially with Terry Bowden as the new HC.
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Dec 22 2011, 10:28 PM
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Brian Wagner is class through and through. He hasn't "abandoned" Akron at all. He came here to play for the Zips and get his degree. He accomplished that goal. He lived through a terrible 2 years under Ianello and gave everything he had. Even changed his major for the team. It is probably no surprise to any of you that I think the world of Brian and his family. I would give a lot to see him come back for his last year at Akron. But let me tell you all this much...the only person who has said anything about Brian transferring to another school to enhance his chances in the NFL is Rasor.
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Dec 22 2011, 10:30 PM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6756 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
QUOTE(SeeTeeZip @ Dec 22 2011, 10:06 PM) Wagner's best move, by FAR, will be to stay with the Zips and dedicate his last year at UA to turning the ship in the right direction. If he has NFL talent, he'll get a fair shot in the NFL regardless. It's foolish for him to think otherwise, especially with Terry Bowden as the new HC. Good post. Wagner will need a boatload of luck to get in the NFL. I think I was the first one last season to say he makes too many tackles dowonfield. Nice MAC player, not an NFL player. Come back to Akron next year Brian...It's your best shot. Kansas is a dump. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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Dec 23 2011, 10:37 AM
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Little Joey Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 19-December 05 Member No.: 280 |
QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Dec 22 2011, 10:28 PM) Brian Wagner is class through and through. He hasn't "abandoned" Akron at all. He came here to play for the Zips and get his degree. He accomplished that goal. He lived through a terrible 2 years under Ianello and gave everything he had. Even changed his major for the team. It is probably no surprise to any of you that I think the world of Brian and his family. I would give a lot to see him come back for his last year at Akron. But let me tell you all this much...the only person who has said anything about Brian transferring to another school to enhance his chances in the NFL is Rasor. So are you saying he hasn't asked for the U to release him from his scholarship then? Personally, I'd think the 2 years under Ionello would leave such a bad taste in my mouth I'd do about anything to support the new coaching staff and my teammates to end my Akron career on a positive note and be known as one of the guys who helped turn this program around. Just me though. |
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Dec 23 2011, 10:42 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6756 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
QUOTE(MrHappy @ Dec 23 2011, 10:37 AM) So are you saying he hasn't asked for the U to release him from his scholarship then? Personally, I'd think the 2 years under Ionello would leave such a bad taste in my mouth I'd do about anything to support the new coaching staff and my teammates to end my Akron career on a positive note and be known as one of the guys who helped turn this program around. Just me though. If he is thinking of leaving, he is already gone. We need guys who are all in. If he wants to stay and be all in, then fine, but I don't think that is the case here. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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Dec 23 2011, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(GP1 @ Dec 22 2011, 11:30 PM) QUOTE(SeeTeeZip @ Dec 22 2011, 10:06 PM) Wagner's best move, by FAR, will be to stay with the Zips and dedicate his last year at UA to turning the ship in the right direction. If he has NFL talent, he'll get a fair shot in the NFL regardless. It's foolish for him to think otherwise, especially with Terry Bowden as the new HC. Good post. Wagner will need a boatload of luck to get in the NFL. I think I was the first one last season to say he makes too many tackles dowonfield. Nice MAC player, not an NFL player. Come back to Akron next year Brian...It's your best shot. Kansas is a dump. Its been said before and prior to last year that Wagner is a guy you want on your team because of ALL the things he brings to the table. Shoot some people were talking about wanting him as a RB or even a safety. Wherever he ends up if he continues to be 'productive' he'll get noticed even if its as a free, agent special teams prospect. Since he already has his degree and given what he has done on the field he is obviously very driven. If the 'right' NFL team works him out he could stick for a while. -------------------- [SIZE=7][FONT=Geneva] ziptex
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Dec 27 2011, 08:58 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6756 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
Brian will get an offer from the team in Columbus. Doesn't mean he will take it, but he will get an offer.
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Dec 27 2011, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(GP1 @ Dec 27 2011, 08:58 AM) Brian will get an offer from the team in Columbus. Doesn't mean he will take it, but he will get an offer. Makes sense, he is that good. BUT, will he get PT there? If his goal is a professional career in football, if he hired me to be his adviser, I would suggest staying put. He has made a name for himself here, and will continue to do that next season. I hope TB has spoken with him.PS If he goes to Columbus, will he play the same position as he did here? --------------------  "One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings"--Diogenes of Sinope |
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Dec 27 2011, 09:57 AM
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Zips Junkie Group: Members Posts: 6756 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Dec 27 2011, 09:07 AM) QUOTE(GP1 @ Dec 27 2011, 08:58 AM) Brian will get an offer from the team in Columbus. Doesn't mean he will take it, but he will get an offer. Makes sense, he is that good. BUT, will he get PT there? If his goal is a professional career in football, if he hired me to be his adviser, I would suggest staying put. He has made a name for himself here, and will continue to do that next season. I hope TB has spoken with him.PS If he goes to Columbus, will he play the same position as he did here? Yes. The staff there doesn't have much confidence in their current LBacking group and believes he will start right away. It would be his job to lose. So, I guess the answer to your last question is yes as well. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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