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Apr 14 2012, 03:34 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3346 Joined: 25-February 04 From: Honolulu, Hawai'i nei Member No.: 32 |
Article I hate to say, "When I was growing up", but when I was growing up, a high school team had to actually be good to make the playoffs. I can't help getting a laugh out of GP1's reminiscence. That's because when I was growing up, they didn't HAVE playoffs. As I recall, the first year the OHSAA had FB playoffs was 1975 (when I was a junior at Green and they did make the playoffs, but I considered myself grown up by then). Guess that makes me a real ol' fut. |
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Apr 15 2012, 03:31 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6714 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
Maybe I am naive, or maybe Im biased since I went to a private high school... but exactly what is the point of separating them? In order to make failures feel better about themselves by giving them a venue where they don't have to compete against the best, which will ultimately provide them with a false sense of success. It's about feelings and not accomplishment...a horrible lesson for high school kids. To quote the great, 16 time World Champion, Nature Boy Rick Flair, "To be the man, you've go to beat the man." -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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Apr 15 2012, 03:46 PM
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![]() Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 975 Joined: 26-February 09 From: Wadsworth, Ohio Member No.: 5123 |
GP1 doesn't South Carolina have expanded playoffs too? I thought when my friend was down there trying to educate the youth he mentioned almost every team down there made the "playoffs". Until Ohio realizes that Cardinal Mooney and Manchester (despite similar student body counts) are not exactly at the same level and starts making all the parochial schools play in the same divisions, I won't pay attention to their "changes". Amen. My D4 school made the playoffs once in their history, and wound up playing Cardinal Moody in the first round. The following year Mooney was kicked up two divisions. Now how are we suppose to feel about that BS? I know how we DO feel. But then again, my son's team got booted from the playoffs last year by a public school who had Michigan residents on the roster. Just goes to show you how much the OHSAA cars about fairness and schools that don't recruit... -------------------- My level of sarcasm is to the point where I don't even know if I'm kidding or not
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Apr 15 2012, 05:30 PM
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Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6714 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Parts Unknown, USA Member No.: 91 |
My D4 school made the playoffs once in their history, and wound up playing Cardinal Moody in the first round. The following year Mooney was kicked up two divisions. Now how are we suppose to feel about that BS? It's high school football. The fate of the free world does not hang in the balance with high school playoffs. My advice is to not feel anything about it. -------------------- "...you want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield, The Wire
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Apr 15 2012, 08:12 PM
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![]() Nonsensical Rambler ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2252 Joined: 9-July 07 From: Akron, OH Member No.: 2566 |
Maybe I am naive, or maybe Im biased since I went to a private high school... but exactly what is the point of separating them? Just because they are a private school, that somehow makes them worse or some how less deserving of playing with the big boys? If anything, private schools have an inherent disadvantage because they cost tuition money to attend and don't always get the biggest, strongest, most athletic players. At my high school, a D3 school, we got some pretty good players for all the sports, but the bigger-name public schools often had the physical advantage... So... I guess if someone could show me why these schools aren't deserving of being mixed in, that would help. I just feel its a bit unfair to segregate them from everyone else just because they're private. Lets not forget some very good athletic departments are at such schools. Iggy, St Ed's, St V, Xavier, Walsh... hell even my high school has a bunch of state titles in quite a few different sports... The private schools are the big boys. My point is these private schools sandbag by staying in a 5th or6th dinision. -------------------- "At least we know what the hell we is...we's a ZIP!" - Butchie Washington
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Apr 16 2012, 04:32 AM
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![]() Zips Junkie ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 975 Joined: 26-February 09 From: Wadsworth, Ohio Member No.: 5123 |
In order to make failures feel better about themselves by giving them a venue where they don't have to compete against the best, which will ultimately provide them with a false sense of success. It's about feelings and not accomplishment...a horrible lesson for high school kids. To quote the great, 16 time World Champion, Nature Boy Rick Flair, "To be the man, you've go to beat the man." So you guys don't see the disadvantage public schools having of forming a team of what they have within a geographical area, after it has been picked apart by the private school recruiters? If me and my sons were on that side of the coin, we wouldn't see what was wrong with that picture either. -------------------- My level of sarcasm is to the point where I don't even know if I'm kidding or not
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