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Its a standing question


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Have skimmed this thread - not read every post.. so I apologize if I am making points already made..

First of all -- the QBs ALL rotated back and forth between the first and second team offenses. Coaches wanted to see how each of them did with the 1's. Don't forget also - that the O-line played BOTH ways the entire game.. we basically had 7 O-linemen for the entire game (due to injuries etc).

Please also remember, that, yes, Dalton was a "back up at an FCS school"... but he was the backup to the WALTER PAYTON AWARD WINNER (the I-AA Heisman), Jeremy Moses. Shannon Dawson - was the Offensive Coordinator during Moses' time at SFA (with Dalton as a backup). Dawson played for Dana Holgerson at Wingate, and is now the OC at WVU. He ran the same offense that Coach Bowden runs - which means that Dalton KNOWS this offense. Here are some tidbits on that offense at SFA with Jeremy Moses as the starting QB:
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- In 2010, Dawson guided the nation’s No. 1 passing offense (362.2) and No. 4 scoring offense (36.3), ranking No. 6 in total offense (442.9).
- The Lumberjacks led the Southland Conference in all three categories, as well as pass efficiency (137.23)
- Quarterback Jeremy Moses was a two-time All-American, two-time Southland Conference Offensive Player of the Year and won the Walter Payton Award, given to the Player of the Year in the NCAA FCS Division
- Moses finished his career as the school and league’s all-time passer, setting records in completions (1,151), touchdown passes (121), passing yards (13,061) and total offense (12,853)
- In 2009, his offensive squad led the nation in passing yards (343.7) and was No. 2 in total offense (468.9), No. 6 in scoring offense (34.9) and No. 10 in pass efficiency (147.8)
- The Lumberjacks led the Southland Conference in all four categories and was second in scoring offense
- Moses led the nation in touchdown passes (40), was third in passing yards (317.2), fourth in points responsible for (18.5) and fifth in total offense (320.5)

So - I guess if you're going to be a backup -- not a bad guy to be playing behind.

I think the game went exactly the way the coaches would have wanted it to go. The First Team Defense was the best unit on the field. Defense wins Championships - period. However, the first team offense was able to score 14 points on them - so its obvious that the guys are picking up the new offense and executing. The 2nd team offense (with the qb's rotating back and forth) did very well -- showing me again, that the offensive players are getting comfortable in the scheme. We know we have issues with depth on defense - and playmakers overall. Those issues are being addressed, and we will be in a better position in the Fall.

There were a LOT more than "a few dozen people" at the game... The University was very smart - and opened the Club Level to the public. Not only because the weather was cold and rainy - but to show the fans what great amenities are available on the Club Level.. so you didn't see a lot of people sitting in the stands. I've heard only very positive remarks about the attendance --- at least double last year's.

Good things are in store for 2012!



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QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 25 2012, 08:53 PM) *
So - I guess if you're going to be a backup -- not a bad guy to be playing behind.


It's still a very legitimate question to ask how a guy who was not a starter at a lower level could suddenly be considered good enough to be a starter at the highest level. Who was originally recruting him? Why didn't he just go to another FCS school to try to become a starter? Was anyone else pursuing him? Did we discover this "hidden gem", and everyone else was somehow asleep at the wheel?

I don't know much, so I still obviously have a lot of questions.


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lance99   Todays spring game   Apr 21 2012, 05:27 PM
Keener'92   Lance, Fill me in on some details. I'm sittin...   Apr 21 2012, 05:30 PM
Zipmeister   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Apr 21 2012, 05:30 ...   Apr 21 2012, 06:12 PM
Keener'92   QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Apr 21 2012, 07:12 PM)...   Apr 21 2012, 06:29 PM
ZachTheZip   1. The talent level is severely lacking, but none ...   Apr 21 2012, 05:48 PM
lance99   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 21 2012, 06:48 PM)...   Apr 21 2012, 06:00 PM
ZachTheZip   QUOTE(lance99 @ Apr 21 2012, 07:00 PM) Pa...   Apr 21 2012, 06:02 PM
Spin   QUOTE(lance99 @ Apr 21 2012, 07:00 PM) Pa...   Apr 21 2012, 06:08 PM
GP1   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 21 2012, 06:48 PM)...   Apr 21 2012, 06:34 PM
Keener'92   Zach, Was Tyler Williams used as receiver today or...   Apr 21 2012, 05:53 PM
ZachTheZip   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Apr 21 2012, 06:53 ...   Apr 21 2012, 05:55 PM
Keener'92   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 21 2012, 06:55 PM)...   Apr 21 2012, 06:00 PM
akzipper   I feel like this game actually hurt my optimism fo...   Apr 21 2012, 06:40 PM
AKSportsFan   Highlights   Apr 21 2012, 06:45 PM
Spin   I thought they were better prepared than Icoach...   Apr 21 2012, 08:12 PM
Library Mark   I was impressed with the speed at which the offens...   Apr 21 2012, 08:22 PM
Lee Adams   Hard to tell. The caveat on everything in this gam...   Apr 21 2012, 09:34 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(Lee Adams @ Apr 21 2012, 10:34 PM) ...   Apr 23 2012, 07:45 AM
Keener'92   Thank you for the information, guys. I was really...   Apr 21 2012, 09:36 PM
akzipper   Anyone else a bit worried about fan support? or do...   Apr 21 2012, 10:41 PM
ZachTheZip   QUOTE(akzipper @ Apr 21 2012, 11:41 PM) A...   Apr 21 2012, 10:44 PM
akzipper   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 21 2012, 11:44 PM)...   Apr 21 2012, 10:53 PM
lance99   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 21 2012, 11:44 PM)...   Apr 22 2012, 12:23 PM
Class of 82   I was encouraged. With a few exceptions, I thought...   Apr 22 2012, 11:19 AM
zipboy   Good points above, a few other thoughts. 1. Brod...   Apr 22 2012, 11:49 AM
ZachTheZip   I would put it at 2000 under the stands, and anoth...   Apr 22 2012, 02:50 PM
ZachTheZip   Rasor's running account of the Spring Game. G...   Apr 22 2012, 04:33 PM
Keener'92   Still waiting to see a synopsis and commentary fro...   Apr 22 2012, 05:33 PM
johnnyzip84   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Apr 22 2012, 06:33 ...   Apr 22 2012, 07:21 PM
gozips19   Good stuff JZ I'll just add a few more observa...   Apr 22 2012, 09:04 PM
GP1   QUOTE(gozips19 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:04 PM) 7...   Apr 23 2012, 03:13 PM
Dr Z   QUOTE(GP1 @ Apr 23 2012, 04:13 PM) Who is...   Apr 23 2012, 03:30 PM
GP1   QUOTE(Dr Z @ Apr 23 2012, 04:30 PM) Coach...   Apr 23 2012, 03:46 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(GP1 @ Apr 23 2012, 04:46 PM) I saw ...   Apr 23 2012, 04:11 PM
ZachTheZip   I saw Rossi playing at both LB and FB yesterday.   Apr 22 2012, 06:18 PM
Zipsrifle   Lots of people up in the "club level" wh...   Apr 22 2012, 07:23 PM
Dave in Green   @Zipsrifle, we've had seats in the second row ...   Apr 22 2012, 08:06 PM
Keener'92   Thank you, JZ.   Apr 22 2012, 08:08 PM
gozips19   Forgot to mention lots of man coverage on d with b...   Apr 22 2012, 09:06 PM
Dr Z   QUOTE(gozips19 @ Apr 22 2012, 10:06 PM) F...   Apr 23 2012, 08:14 AM
Hilltopper   QUOTE(Dr Z @ Apr 23 2012, 09:14 AM) Secon...   Apr 23 2012, 08:40 AM
ZachTheZip   The problem with counting sacks in the spring game...   Apr 23 2012, 04:16 PM
Captain Kangaroo   Everyone knows Moore can run. Everyone knows he...   Apr 23 2012, 05:10 PM
GP1   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Apr 23 2012, 06...   Apr 23 2012, 06:48 PM
zippy5   QUOTE(GP1 @ Apr 23 2012, 07:48 PM) I woul...   Apr 23 2012, 07:08 PM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(zippy5 @ Apr 23 2012, 08:08 PM) Agr...   Apr 24 2012, 07:16 AM
GP1   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Apr 24 2012, 08...   Apr 24 2012, 02:27 PM
GP1   QUOTE(zippy5 @ Apr 23 2012, 08:08 PM) Agr...   Apr 24 2012, 02:16 PM
scottditzen   I just wanted to add because I haven't seen it...   Apr 23 2012, 05:30 PM
zip403   NOW you all see why Dalton Williams COULDNT start ...   Apr 23 2012, 06:59 PM
zippy5   QUOTE(zip403 @ Apr 23 2012, 07:59 PM) He ...   Apr 23 2012, 07:10 PM
akzipper   QUOTE(zip403 @ Apr 23 2012, 07:59 PM) NOW...   Apr 23 2012, 11:27 PM
scottditzen   Dalton threw two bad passes, but despite that I th...   Apr 24 2012, 07:10 AM
skip-zip   QUOTE(zip403 @ Apr 23 2012, 07:59 PM) NOW...   Apr 24 2012, 10:14 PM
g-mann17   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 24 2012, 11:14 ...   Apr 25 2012, 08:17 AM
Jason   Pohl definitely threw a few bad passes, but lets r...   Apr 24 2012, 07:32 AM
Lee Adams   Was at the game. Didn't see that Williams play...   Apr 24 2012, 09:21 AM
Keener'92   Did they have any new swag at the game? Posters, ...   Apr 25 2012, 11:07 AM
johnnyzip84   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Apr 25 2012, 12:07 ...   Apr 25 2012, 11:11 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ Apr 25 2012, 12:07 ...   Apr 25 2012, 11:38 AM
AKSportsFan   "Akron Vision" won the t-shirt contest.   Apr 25 2012, 01:56 PM
Zipmeister   QUOTE(AKSportsFan @ Apr 25 2012, 01:56 PM...   Apr 25 2012, 02:09 PM
NewZipsFan   Have skimmed this thread - not read every post.. s...   Apr 25 2012, 07:53 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 25 2012, 08:53 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 10:40 AM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 26 2012, 11:40 ...   Apr 26 2012, 11:20 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 26 2012, 12:20 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 11:40 AM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ Apr 26 2012, 12...   Apr 26 2012, 12:29 PM
Zipmeister   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 26 2012, 10:40 ...   Apr 27 2012, 08:40 PM
akzipper   QUOTE(Zipmeister @ Apr 27 2012, 09:40 PM)...   Apr 27 2012, 09:24 PM
ZachTheZip   My only question about Dalton is why he never tran...   Apr 26 2012, 12:40 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 26 2012, 01:40 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 01:17 PM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 26 2012, 02:17 ...   Apr 26 2012, 02:42 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 26 2012, 03:42 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 04:44 PM
akzipper   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 26 2012, 05:44 ...   Apr 26 2012, 05:10 PM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(akzipper @ Apr 26 2012, 06:10 PM) I...   Apr 26 2012, 06:45 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 26 2012, 07:45 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 08:30 PM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(skip-zip @ Apr 26 2012, 09:30 ...   Apr 27 2012, 09:10 AM
skip-zip   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 27 2012, 10:10 AM)...   Apr 27 2012, 04:22 PM
Captain Kangaroo   Erin Andrews can call me "Bobby" anytime...   Apr 26 2012, 01:17 PM
ZachTheZip   The thing is that despite all that's been said...   Apr 26 2012, 05:24 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 26 2012, 06:24 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 05:29 PM
zippy5   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ Apr 26 2012, 06:24 PM)...   Apr 26 2012, 06:47 PM
NewZipsFan   Not to continue to , but I just went back and lo...   Apr 27 2012, 09:24 AM
GP1   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 27 2012, 10:24 AM)...   Apr 27 2012, 09:46 AM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(GP1 @ Apr 27 2012, 10:46 AM) The in...   Apr 27 2012, 10:51 AM
Lee Adams   QUOTE(NewZipsFan @ Apr 27 2012, 10:51 AM)...   Apr 27 2012, 05:19 PM
GP1   QUOTE(Lee Adams @ Apr 27 2012, 06:19 PM) ...   Apr 28 2012, 09:13 AM
Dr Z   QUOTE(GP1 @ Apr 28 2012, 10:13 AM) There ...   Apr 28 2012, 11:28 AM
GP1   QUOTE(Dr Z @ Apr 28 2012, 12:28 PM) Consi...   Apr 28 2012, 02:18 PM
Hilltopper   I thought several of dalton's interceptions we...   Apr 27 2012, 11:08 AM
zippy5   I watched Tino Sunseri struggle with this offense ...   Apr 27 2012, 05:47 PM
hugo42   This shit is pissing me off yall do not know the o...   Apr 27 2012, 08:17 PM
zippy5   QUOTE(hugo42 @ Apr 27 2012, 09:17 PM) Thi...   Apr 27 2012, 10:23 PM
NewZipsFan   QUOTE(zippy5 @ Apr 27 2012, 11:23 PM) Obv...   Apr 28 2012, 05:03 PM
Dr Z   QUOTE(hugo42 @ Apr 27 2012, 09:17 PM) Wrs...   Apr 28 2012, 09:03 AM


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