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He trained with his first coach at St. Vincent--St. Mary High, Keith Dambrot, who had barely worked with him since he was a rookie. "A lot of people are intimidated by LeBron, but he wants the truth," says Dambrot, now the coach at Akron. "He's not too big to take criticism. I told him, 'You have to do more things you don't want to do. You have to do more offensive and defensive rebounding, moving without the ball, all the basics that made you great going back to the beginning.'"


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When the Heat has won 101--98, James finds Jay-Z's nephew in the courtside seats and slips his headband around the boy's neck. He removes his Nikes and hands those over as well. He tells the Heat's TV announcers he never thought he would hear MVP chants in an opposing arena again. Still, he will receive a text from Dambrot saying he needs to grab more rebounds.

 
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No one has yet been able to produce hard evidence that proves or disproves the value of LeBron's support to the Zips basketball program. In the absence of such data, no one gets to claim victory in this debate. It's a tie.



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QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 4 2012, 05:01 PM) *
No one has yet been able to produce hard evidence that proves or disproves the value of LeBron's support to the Zips basketball program. In the absence of such data, no one gets to claim victory in this debate. It's a tie.


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Best post ever by DIG. Short and sweet.

Yet another example of DIG never taking a stance, yet always riding the fence......

You know, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose..yada, yada, yada....

LBJ is KD's buddy. Great for them...

When LBJ's impact lands us a big-time player or a couple mil, please let me know...

Until then, it's much about nothing...




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QUOTE(Zips Win! @ May 5 2012, 12:04 AM) *
.... Yet another example of DIG never taking a stance, yet always riding the fence......

You know, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose..yada, yada, yada....

Guess it went right over your head. I thought it would be pretty clear to everyone that my stance is that LeBron's association with Zips basketball is a valuable asset because it can help make the program more attractive to quality young players. Just because there's been no proof presented here yet that it hasn't already happened doesn't mean it hasn't or won't. I value assets, and I like them even better when I know for sure that the assets have been leveraged to produce results.



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QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 5 2012, 09:23 AM) *
I value assets, and I like them even better when I know for sure that the assets have been leveraged to produce results.

So do I. Results have to measureable in a way that has to be statistically relevant. I see James connection to the basketball program as nothing but an interesting sideshow that has no negative impact on the program. Fans like a good sideshow, but they do little to further the cause.

I believe we get good players here because they want to be involved with a winning program primarily. Playing a pick-up game or two with James over a four year period can't possibly by their primary motivation and I don't even want that kind of player on the team. We need winners, not stargazers.

I don't know why I always have to be the one to bring these things up, but here it goes. Nobody will say these national references of James/Dambrot do more for Dambrot than the basketball program. This article will do almost nothing to bring in a top level recruit or even have enough impact on the memory of someone to cause them to buy one ticket next season. Who is sitting around and saying, "I want to go watch the guy coach who told LBJ he has to do a better job of rebounding"? I don't think this person exists. After eight years and this same article getting republished in some for or another 1,000 times, he would have bought the tickets already. It doesn't hurt the program, but it doesn't help either.


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QUOTE(GP1 @ May 5 2012, 09:54 AM) *
So do I. Results have to measureable in a way that has to be statistically relevant. I see James connection to the basketball program as nothing but an interesting sideshow that has no negative impact on the program. Fans like a good sideshow, but they do little to further the cause.

I believe we get good players here because they want to be involved with a winning program primarily. Playing a pick-up game or two with James over a four year period can't possibly by their primary motivation and I don't even want that kind of player on the team. We need winners, not stargazers.

I don't know why I always have to be the one to bring these things up, but here it goes. Nobody will say these national references of James/Dambrot do more for Dambrot than the basketball program. This article will do almost nothing to bring in a top level recruit or even have enough impact on the memory of someone to cause them to buy one ticket next season. Who is sitting around and saying, "I want to go watch the guy coach who told LBJ he has to do a better job of rebounding"? I don't think this person exists. After eight years and this same article getting republished in some for or another 1,000 times, he would have bought the tickets already. It doesn't hurt the program, but it doesn't help either.


I agree that, despite no evidence of him helping our program, his loose ties can't hurt anything. I guess I just get tired of our fans/alumni/program catering to him when it serves him when he could be making a significant impact to our program (recruiting, arena, etc) and instead chooses to help Ohio State and/or Kentucky.


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UAZip0510   Dambrot Mentioned in SI Article on LeBron   Apr 29 2012, 08:01 PM
Blue & Gold   Literally, UA doesn't have enough $...   Apr 29 2012, 08:56 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(Blue & Gold @ Apr 29 2012, 09:5...   Apr 30 2012, 06:28 AM
UAZip0510   I still think Dambrot has coached LeBron the best ...   Apr 30 2012, 05:11 PM
LZip   QUOTE(Blue & Gold @ Apr 29 2012, 09:5...   Apr 30 2012, 09:47 PM
Z.I.P.   I've said it before, if KD leaves UA, and it w...   May 1 2012, 02:10 AM
skip-zip   QUOTE(LZip @ Apr 30 2012, 10:47 PM) I...   May 1 2012, 08:45 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 1 2012, 09:45 A...   May 1 2012, 09:13 AM
Roo   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 1 2012, 09:45 A...   May 1 2012, 10:24 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(Roo @ May 1 2012, 11:24 AM) Show wh...   May 1 2012, 10:38 AM
skip-zip   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 1 2012, 11:3...   May 1 2012, 11:38 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 1 2012, 11:3...   May 1 2012, 05:34 PM
GP1   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 1 2012, 09:45 A...   May 1 2012, 04:41 PM
Zips Win!   QUOTE(LZip @ Apr 30 2012, 10:47 PM) I...   May 1 2012, 02:11 PM
LZip   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 1 2012, 11:3...   May 1 2012, 11:25 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(LZip @ May 1 2012, 12:25 PM) link t...   May 1 2012, 02:59 PM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 1 2012, 03:5...   May 1 2012, 05:37 PM
GameChngr44   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 1 2012, 06:37 PM) F...   May 1 2012, 08:21 PM
Dave in Green   Free publicity may or may not produce measurable r...   May 1 2012, 02:42 PM
zippy5   Right and since it wasn't the reason Zeke came...   May 1 2012, 09:42 PM
LZip   QUOTE(zippy5 @ May 1 2012, 10:42 PM) Righ...   May 1 2012, 10:26 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(LZip @ May 1 2012, 11:26 PM) show m...   May 2 2012, 07:15 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(LZip @ May 1 2012, 11:26 PM) show m...   May 2 2012, 07:18 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 2 2012, 08:1...   May 2 2012, 07:36 PM
Keener'92   What do y'all think when LeBron refers to UA a...   May 2 2012, 08:57 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ May 2 2012, 09:57 A...   May 2 2012, 10:00 AM
Zips Win!   QUOTE(Keener'92 @ May 2 2012, 09:57 A...   May 3 2012, 07:19 PM
Dave in Green   @Keener'92, my best guess is that no one has c...   May 2 2012, 10:08 AM
Roo   And with all of his AAU tournaments and all of the...   May 2 2012, 05:25 PM
Dave in Green   Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall anyone s...   May 2 2012, 09:23 PM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 2 2012, 10:23 P...   May 2 2012, 10:47 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 2 2012, 11:47 PM) C...   May 3 2012, 05:25 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 3 2012, 06:25 A...   May 3 2012, 04:45 PM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 2 2012, 11:47 PM) C...   May 3 2012, 07:12 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 3 2012, 08:1...   May 3 2012, 05:01 PM
Zips Win!   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 3 2012, 06:01 PM) I...   May 3 2012, 07:15 PM
LZip   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 3 2012, 08:1...   May 3 2012, 11:19 AM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(LZip @ May 3 2012, 12:19 PM) 1. Bro...   May 3 2012, 11:39 AM
Dr Z   QUOTE(LZip @ May 3 2012, 12:19 PM) 1. Bro...   May 3 2012, 12:28 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(LZip @ May 3 2012, 12:19 PM) 1. Bro...   May 3 2012, 12:37 PM
LZip   QUOTE(Captain Kangaroo @ May 3 2012, 12:3...   May 3 2012, 12:11 PM
Captain Kangaroo   QUOTE(LZip @ May 3 2012, 01:11 PM) You ar...   May 3 2012, 12:25 PM
ZachTheZip   He goes to OSU and Kentucky to be seen and to self...   May 3 2012, 05:13 PM
LZip   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ May 3 2012, 06:13 PM) ...   May 3 2012, 05:24 PM
UAZip0510   The only downside to LeBron is that both times the...   May 3 2012, 07:42 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 3 2012, 08:42 PM) T...   May 3 2012, 08:19 PM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 3 2012, 09:19 P...   May 3 2012, 09:50 PM
Zips Win!   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 3 2012, 08:42 PM) T...   May 3 2012, 08:29 PM
ZachTheZip   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 3 2012, 08:42 PM) T...   May 3 2012, 08:42 PM
Dave in Green   I guess you can find something to support whatever...   May 3 2012, 09:25 PM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 3 2012, 10:25 P...   May 3 2012, 09:55 PM
zippy5   I think anyone that thinks having LEBRON JAMES aro...   May 3 2012, 10:21 PM
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UAZip0510   QUOTE(zippy5 @ May 3 2012, 11:25 PM) I...   May 4 2012, 05:18 PM
LZip   QUOTE(zippy5 @ May 3 2012, 11:21 PM) I th...   May 4 2012, 01:21 PM
zippy5   Show me a link where every player who's played...   May 4 2012, 03:55 PM
Dave in Green   No one has yet been able to produce hard evidence ...   May 4 2012, 04:01 PM
Zips Win!   QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 4 2012, 05:01 P...   May 4 2012, 11:04 PM
akzipper   QUOTE(Zips Win! @ May 5 2012, 12:04 A...   May 5 2012, 12:24 AM
Dave in Green   QUOTE(Zips Win! @ May 5 2012, 12:04 A...   May 5 2012, 08:23 AM
GP1   QUOTE(Dave in Green @ May 5 2012, 09:23 A...   May 5 2012, 08:54 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(GP1 @ May 5 2012, 09:54 AM) So do I...   May 5 2012, 12:23 PM
skip-zip   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 5 2012, 01:23 PM) I...   May 6 2012, 05:21 AM
Hilltopper   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 6 2012, 06:21 A...   May 6 2012, 07:02 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 6 2012, 06:21 A...   May 6 2012, 05:55 PM
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UAZip0510   Here's an interesting article: The subject wa...   May 4 2012, 05:34 PM
ZachTheZip   You'll just have to remain wrong, then.   May 4 2012, 05:45 PM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(ZachTheZip @ May 4 2012, 06:45 PM) ...   May 4 2012, 06:00 PM
LZip   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 4 2012, 07:00 PM) M...   May 4 2012, 07:42 PM
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LZip   QUOTE(skip-zip @ May 6 2012, 06:21 A...   May 6 2012, 08:27 AM
skip-zip   QUOTE(LZip @ May 6 2012, 09:27 AM) yeah, ...   May 7 2012, 06:51 AM
Dr Z   I wonder how different this thread would read if L...   May 7 2012, 08:23 AM
UAZip0510   QUOTE(Dr Z @ May 7 2012, 09:23 AM) I wond...   May 7 2012, 05:48 PM
Dave in Green   While I'd like to know more specific details a...   May 7 2012, 12:07 PM
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Dave in Green   QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ May 7 2012, 06:42 PM) ....   May 7 2012, 06:38 PM
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Blue & Gold   This is one of the dumbest discussions in the hist...   May 7 2012, 12:15 PM
GP1   QUOTE(Blue & Gold @ May 7 2012, 01:15...   May 7 2012, 12:56 PM
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GP1   QUOTE(taxpayer @ May 9 2012, 09:02 AM) I ...   May 9 2012, 02:03 PM
skip-zip   Wouldn't it be best to separate the discussion...   May 10 2012, 04:11 PM


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