[ndzippy]

Unless you want to be a business professor, who needs a Ph.D. in business? For industry as a business person, the M.B.A. is a more appropriate terminal degree, is it not?

Ph.D.'s in the sciences and engineering are valuable for R & D. And I would think someone who does a Ph.D. in economics and/or mathematical modeling is doing business research. So what's the value of a Ph.D. in business? Just curious...I honestly don't know.

PhD Programs attract more prestigious faculty that along with PhD candidates produce lots of high quality research. Believe it or not, research plays a huge role even in business.

[Blue & Gold]

Can't State offers more than one or two good programs. Their journalism program is among the best in the nation. They're one of the only schools in this part of the country to offer a BA in sign language. You might make fun of their fashion program, but it's a top ten program. Check it out.

Wow. Proof positive that

[zestycoyote]

A degree isn't useful unless it's some generic (i.e. easy) education or business degree.

My bad.

[zippy5]

I consider a degree useful when it, you know, gets you a job. I'm sure the fashion and sign language industries are really hiring like crazy right now.

[zestycoyote]

I consider a degree useful when it, you know, gets you a job. I'm sure the fashion and sign language industries are really hiring like crazy right now.

Sure, they're smaller job industries. Maybe that's why Can't State's programs are considered unique programs? Fewer people get those degrees because there are fewer jobs in those areas. It doesn't mean they're automatically useless. Get it?

[Keener'92]

Zesty,
Let me get this straight...
You are a so-called Akron Zips fan...
On the Akron Zips fans message board...
Engaging in back & forth, arguing on behalf of Can't State University?

Would it be wrong of me to consider nominating you for

[zippy5]

Sure, they're smaller job industries. Maybe that's why Can't State's programs are considered unique programs? Fewer people get those degrees because there are fewer jobs in those areas. It doesn't mean they're automatically useless. Get it?

Smaller industries = less grads getting jobs, right? Wouldn't you rather your school place more students into jobs from its marquee programs?

[zestycoyote]

Zesty,
Let me get this straight...
You are a so-called Akron Zips fan...
On the Akron Zips fans message board...
Engaging in back & forth, arguing on behalf of Can't State University?

This isn't about Zip athletics. I haven't said anything about sports. I'm talking about supporting higher education in this area. There's no reason to rip a nationally respected school just because of some barely-existent sports rivalry.

If that makes me "Douche of the Month," so be it. Also, by using the word douche, you're a prime example of the type of UA student that contributes to the university's standard of mediocrity.

Zippy,
I won't even bother to respond, as you clearly unable to understand what a university is, or why it should offer more than two degrees.

[zippy5]

I'm devastated. FYI my generic/easy business degree from our crummy university just got me an 87 on the first part of the CPA exam. If only I could've went to Can't.

[Class of 82]

This isn't about Zip athletics. I haven't said anything about sports. I'm talking about supporting higher education in this area. There's no reason to rip a nationally respected school just because of some barely-existent sports rivalry.

If that makes me "Douche of the Month," so be it. Also, by using the word douche, you're a prime example of the type of UA student that contributes to the university's standard of mediocrity.

Zippy,
I won't even bother to respond, as you clearly unable to understand what a university is, or why it should offer more than two degrees.

Hey zesty,

I think the reason people are responding negatively to you is that your assertions about the University of Akron show that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I don't know if or when you attended Akron, but I attended there from 1977 to 1982, earning a degree in political science. I had good enough test scores to go elsewhere, but circumstances dictated that I live at home and work while going to school. So Akron was my only option. When I arrived on campus, I believed then exactly as you do now. But actual experience often differs from perception, and that was the case with my experience at Akron. While I did indeed meet a lot of under-prepared students due to Akron's open-enrollment policy, the faculty I encountered were generally quite good, even at the survey-course and General College level. As a junior and senior within the political science and history departments, the instruction I received was almost universally first-rate. Yet, as I applied to various graduate programs around the country, there was this fear in the back of my mind that somehow I would not measure up when I got to a "real" school. My GRE and LSAT scores were very good, but I still wondered if I could really cut it.

Fact is, though, I shouldn't have worried. Graduate school at a "real," "selective" university... in my case, the University of Arizona... turned out to be a cakewalk compared to the rigor demanded of me in the poli-sci department at little-old Akron. Not only that, it became apparent to me almost immediately that some classmates of mine from places like UCLA, UC San Diego, Oregon and elsewhere were far less prepared for graduate-level work than I was. I met U of Cal graduates(!) who hadn't even taken an essay test since high school for God's sake! I shudder to think how they might have fared in Paul Weidner's Constitutional Law course at Akron. They would have pissed themselves, I'm quite sure.

So, with all due respect... to hell with your notions of "nationally-respected" universities. And to hell with all the otherwise intelligent folk who can't get it through their thick heads that open enrollment reflects the quality of some incoming students, not the quality of faculty or programming or the quality of the students who actually complete degrees. In short, I'll stack my alma mater's quality against anyone's.

I won't join in calling you a douche, but I gotta tell ya, your posts in this thread don't impress this Akron grad. Far from it.

[Class of 82]

I'm devastated. FYI my generic/easy business degree from our crummy university just got me an 87 on the first part of the CPA exam. If only I could've went to Can't.

Wow... congrats, zippy5. And best of luck the rest of the way!

[MDZip]

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[MDZip]

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[MDZip]

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[MDZip]

I have to acknowledge what the Can't baseball team has done (yes I know it is in another thread but I included it here for a reason), it is pretty impressive for a MAC school to make this kind of run (and just about as nationally unlikely as the Zips soccer run), but being our rivals, here's a little synopsis for Public Universities with the worst graduation rates including Can't State Branch campus. Also here. And for good measure here's one for OU and one more.