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  1. 3 points
    He took over a program with 3 D1-A wins the previous season, and who lost 9 of its 11 defensive starters. He began recruiting at a point in time when most programs had their full class committed. How many games should he have won? 1...2...? I hope he can turn it around. Like any HC, he gets 4 years to show what he can do.
  2. 3 points
    Are these both supposed to be bad things or does one offset the other?
  3. 3 points
    I'm obviously a fan of athletics. That being said I can't disagree with everything those academia faculty are saying. Had we kept athletics spending in check the last 15-20 years, we wouldn't be in a position to make such drastic changes now. There is no way we should be supporting 20 D1 sports when we're only required to support 16.
  4. 3 points
    There's really no reason at all why we shouldn't be competitive in the MAC.
  5. 3 points
    Arth and Groce are Akron's 2 highest paid employees. Just because the student body doesn't care about athletics doesn't mean the administration feels the same way. In fact, Akron has tried bribing students with things like free tuition just to get them to games. Nothing has seemed to work. What I really think we're seeing is people losing their pride in their local community. ESPN has preached for decades the if you're not first, you're last mentality. Their viewers have bought in. Cable tv has made it easy for Akron alum and area residents to sit at home on a Saturday and watch what they believe to be a superior product instead of going out and supporting the local team. People have proposed dropping down divisions in hopes that being more competitive at a 3rd rate division would make people care. Mount Union has been the Bama of D3 for decades. Below are their attendance figures from last season. I'm seeing home attendance as low as 1840 and as high as 4631 for their home games. I've lived within 20 minutes from their stadium for virtually my entire life and I've never attended a game, nor do I have any desire to attend. Not a single one of my friends who attended Mount have been to a game neither. I know I certainly would never attend a game of watching Akron playing Otterbein, Capital, or Heidelberg. Granted I haven't attended a football game in 2-3 years, but I would attend if they were ever to consistently become competitive in the MAC.
  6. 2 points
    Do they ever like anything? They are routinely negative.
  7. 2 points
    Yes, I'm not saying giving 5 year deals hasn't been the norm in the past. I just don't feel it should be the norm moving forward. It seems our logic is very similar behind this as I actually mentioned the WMU hire in my edited post. The guaranteed money is the bigger thing for me. If they wanted to sign a guy to a 5 year deal, but only the first 3 years were fully guaranteed, I'd have no problem with that. Ianello was the university's 3rd (behind Dambrot & Bowden) highest paid employee for 3 years despite working as an assistant at some other college. That can't happen.
  8. 2 points
    Football Colleges that Plan to Be Open in the Fall
  9. 2 points
    I don’t see how “he” failed. He didn’t recruit the seniors, juniors, or sophomores. We’re not going to see his recruiting until maybe 2021. Knee jerk reactions to how Bowden’s third to last recruiting class played will only ensure we stay in last place. The financial side has already been thoroughly covered.
  10. 2 points
    There is certainly room for men's basketball attendance to improve, but out of curiosity what numbers would you be happy with? Right now we typically average 2800-3000 for the season and ~3500 for MAC play. With the bump to 20 conference games I'd expect attendance numbers to improve. I'm a season ticker holder and Zips basketball is by far and away my favorite Zips sport, but even I have trouble justifying making the time commitment to watch Akron basketball play random MEAC/SWAC/NAIA teams at home during OOC. There is no way I'd pay $15 for a single game ticket to one of those games.
  11. 2 points
    Agree with all of that. My point is that the program is probably not entirely out of the woods, especially if we see an ugly season. Announced as a sell out.
  12. 2 points
    I don't think this was the "I told you so" post you were hoping to write today, eh?
  13. 2 points
    There was a nice sense of irony there. Thanks for noticing.
  14. 2 points
    Okay, stupid question. But scholarships don't really cost the U any tangible $$, do they? Just on paper, right?. Sure, you can say the scholarship is worth $xx,xxx.xx, - and it is to the student; the diploma they receive is in fact worth that much $$. But from the U's perspective isn't the scholarship simply letting a student sit at a desk which would otherwise be empty? My dad was friends with someone who owned a country club. He let my family use the facilities free of charge. It was a great deal for us - and worth about $8,000/year from our perspective. But it didn't actually cost him anything because we wouldn't be going to the CC otherwise. Edit: @kreed5120 hit on this while I was typing.
  15. 2 points
  16. 2 points
    Jamal Davis to Packers
  17. 1 point
    So uh...whats the hold up on these last two scholarships?
  18. 1 point
    He's 22 years old and going into his 5th season of post high school basketball (IMG, Akron, Akron, Walsh). Not likely. He may get more minutes due to experience in the program and improve his numbers, but at this point he is what he is.
  19. 1 point
    Wow, in the Bowden years, I always wondered who would be playing DL, then, we would get a transfer or some commit that was unexpected or unknown. I am so impressed at how Arth is building the DL. we have some transfers in Cross and Mitchell, Logan Hawkins came from the Bowden era (I believe), we have youngsters in Allen, Sy, Wade, Wilson, and Julius Hawkins. I am hoping Meeks has a good senior season. But now, I see two future DL men that appear to be excellent. Let's welcome Reese and Jabbaar. They appear to be excellent additions. The future DL appears to be talented and deep and will help the Zips dominate. I hope that they can get 1-2 more DL commitments this year and continue to build for the present as well as the future. Keep it up Coach Arth. I do not know how may victories we will get in 2020 (if any), but you are definitely building up the talent base to a level that I have not seen years. Too bad that Bowden left the talent level so bare. Go Zips.
  20. 1 point
    Scarborough was horrible at PR. That doomed him. Also, I remember it was his first Homecoming and he was walking the queen across the field and he has his 6 year old daughter with him. She was a cute kid dressed in an Akron cheerleader garb. I thought to myself...what a narcissistic jerk. Why would you show off and/or indulge your child and upstage the young woman/student who was being honored that day?
  21. 1 point
    People like Pj get the right people in the boat.
  22. 1 point
    If college coaches were getting paid based on profits they bring in, most of them would be volunteers
  23. 1 point
    A drop in the bucket. When I was done with prerequisites and switched to main campus, I was paying for busses, the bowling alley, the pool hall, the theater, the workout facility, the rock climbing wall, the indoor pool, who knows how much other stuff I paid for that I never used. And then, because I didn’t live on campus and didn’t use the busses I paid for, I paid to park. I know all about student fees.I incurred twice as much debt on the main campus than I did at Wayne.
  24. 1 point
    I've seen a couple of the graphics guys I follow on twitter say they're moving onto other things. The guys that make the templates recruits tweet out on committing or visits and obviously more than that but.. I'm assuming support positions like that and who knows what else are casualties of this.
  25. 1 point
    I suspect that the odd distribution of cuts was brought to you by Title IX.
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    Don't your insider friends share that with you?
  28. 1 point
    dustin fox has done color on several zips football broadcasts on espn3/+ the last couple years. Lets hope his ignorance is rewarded with no more games ever again. I believe UA must approve broadcast personnell .
  29. 1 point
    A thread for this discussion seems appropriate Men’s college soccer finds itself in a strange, fragile spot | Charles Boehm
  30. 1 point
    Between buy games, CFP money, and tv money football generates the bulk of the athletic departments revenue. I'm not a big fan of the football program myself, but there is no denying that it's the biggest revenue generator for the athletics program. More than soccer and men's basketball combined.
  31. 1 point
    The thing about tennis though is those courts can still be used by the students and community.
  32. 1 point
    You're overlooking the fact that each student pays x-number of dollars in student fees that are to help cover the cost of athletics. If we have fewer students, we're collecting less in student fees. I'm not saying we should have cut athletics spending 23.7% just because enrollment fell 23.7%. I'm saying I don't feel we should have increased it 9.4%.
  33. 1 point
    I'm a soccer fan too, from the days of the Cleveland Cobras of the old ASL, to the Cleveland Force, Canton Invaders, and Cleveland Crunch from indoor pinball, the Cleveland Caps (I know the team owner), the Columbus Crew and CLE SC. I'm not abdicating shutting down the soccer program. I have no idea where you got that idea. This isn't us vs. them.
  34. 1 point
    Facts aren't reasons. I would like to see what MAC schools could do if they put a compelling, more enjoyable product on the field at a time and day of the week when it was reasonable for fans to attend. It wasn't that long ago that they did and attendance was good.
  35. 1 point
    It's not ideal, but at some point we have to be adults about it. I'm a Zips fan. But you're going to cut a National Championship team that has continued to compete for National Championships; and is far cheaper to maintain over a team that has surpassed over .500 once or twice in the last two decades? That doesn't even qualify as stupid. Let alone futile. Your last point is on the mark. I've always been a loyal Zips Football supporter, but even I stopped watching it. First stopped attending games, then stopped watching it....hell not even looking at the score of the game last year. I've been to more soccer games than Football games in the last 3 years. I consider my Alumni Season Ticket package to all sports as a donation, so if I miss a game I'm not worried about it.
  36. 1 point
    Yup it amuses me too. It's the same old, tired, business bullshit I've heard my entire life. Just mindless justification for something that is observationally and objectively not correct. It's pretty damn obvious that Football is an abyss, and it's pretty damn obvious it's an albatross that's been artificially kept alive ONLY by the graces of pay-day games. The LAST HOPE for this program was by some miracle that Bowden would miraculously do something (in my opinion of course) and it never materialized. It's time to put the deathnail in the coffin and move on. 0-12 last year... If Akron cuts Soccer over Football I'm done with the University. I'll have my fond memories of the past and never step on the campus again. Because that would be just pure stupidity. I have far more fond memories of Akron Soccer than I do of Akron football.
  37. 1 point
    https://www.beaconjournal.com/news/20200507/university-of-akron-president-expects-to-reopen-campus-in-fall-continue-with-division-i-athletics not much with details but promising. Division 1 so assume football remains. And get kids back on campus!!
  38. 1 point
    14.6 ppg, 10 rpg. (Shhh, but it may only be 9.5 rpg.) 😂
  39. 1 point
    The club is now under different ownership. So it's back to the unwashed masses for me 😭😭
  40. 1 point
    That kid needs some serious conditioning. Seems like an odd choice for the System.
  41. 1 point
    When It rains it pours. It’s no wonder nobody has any pride in this school. Constantly treading water.
  42. 1 point
    Some show on Netflix I bet.
  43. 1 point
    Maybe it was just me, but I kept reading the article waiting for the answer that doesn't involve cutting sports and all they could come up with is salary cuts (not to mention it would supposedly save "millions")? Does not compute.
  44. 1 point
    Men's Soccer gets 9.9 scholarships per NCAA rules.
  45. 1 point
    You tube interview with 2020 fall recruit Paul Jones from the Columbia, SC area
  46. 1 point
    Interesting to see Alabama A&M take a chance on Abba.
  47. 1 point
    Many of those 'people' U said U never heard from have been posting here for years. By the way basketball is another thread.
  48. 1 point
    President Miller's message is scary and necessary. Akron can't survive doing things in athletics like we have. Change is coming and it will hurt. It is clear that we cannot compete with P5 conferences and all their money. They can continue to have games w/o fans because they do not need ticket revenue to survive. Case in point, the Big Ten last year sent each member $45.7 million from the Big Ten TV channel alone. If a UA sport cannot be self sustaining I see it as being in jeopardy. Football is at the top of the list. It is desperate for ticket revenue to increase but has yet to show signs of life. I can see Akron joining many other G5 schools in forming a division below D1 that is less expensive to operate. This division would be above the D1A that YSU and the rest compete in to try to save face and earn some semblance of a TV contract. I can see sports being cut. If football doesn't go I can see men's golf, cross country and track being eliminated. On the women's side I can see tennis, lacrosse and volleyball being cut. No new sports would start. Facilities will be modest and emphasized. As Miller said things will never be the same. Our better coaches will be poached and we will not have any hope of competing nationally in most sports. We were running financial deficits before COVID-19 hit. Now enrollment, and consequently deficits, will be worse than planned and we will have to pay a dear price to emerge as a survivor. We can do it, but it will hurt in many areas. For us on this board athletics may hurt the worse.
  49. 0 points
    That's dated 4/25
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