According to GT,Hirschman was held out due to a knee injury. http://www.ohio.com/sports/zips/zips-show-some-promise-during-intrasquad-scrimmage-1.512143 http://www.ohio.com/sports/zips/2014-zips-preseason-camp-snapshot-practice-9-1.512144 I was there with a few ZNo regulars and here are some additional observations: 1. Richard Dorvilus (#10), the JUCO DE, made a big play with strip of the QB (TW13 I think). He also recovered the ball and returned it for a big play. He has the speed to cause problems for OTs. 2. Stein and another PK (#37) both kicked whenever FG opportunities arose. I believe RS48 was 3/3 while #37 was 1/3. 3. The LBs are as good as we hoped they'd be - faster and fitter than ever. Mizell, Brown and March have to be the best trio to EVER take the field at once for the Zips. 4. Depth on the O-Line and defensive backfield remain the biggest concerns. The starters looked pretty good though. Isaiah Williams had a few rough penalties that he'll need to clean up. Givens continues to impress. Deandre Scott looks pretty good at corner. Boyette was playing RT with the 1's. Tommy Brown is enormous and looks good - hopefully he can play this year. 5. KP16 can definitely play better, but I was encouraged by TW13 and CK18 - Woodson is much improved from last year and Kincade simply looks the part. 6. Another true FR who opened my eyes was Boxen (#50). He has a fantastic motor. Newman Williams played well when he had the opportunity, especially in goal line defense. 7. Both Gauthney and Moore are on the roster and both played some with the 2's. 8. A few players didn't dress, including Bickley, Brumbaugh (at least I don't recall seeing him), and James Turner. Jamal Turner is done at UA - another defender (not sure who) has the #55 now. 9. In very general terms, the team looks bigger,faster,and fitter than any Zip team I can recall in recent memory. There's work to be done, but I am encouraged to say the least.