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akronzips71
And Chase played a great game, just to keep it on topic.
Dr Z
That looked like a team that wanted to win last night, well prepared. Good luck to Chase! thumb.gif
ZipRoo
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 07:45 AM) *
That looked like a team that wanted to win last night, well prepared. Good luck to Chase! thumb.gif

Zip Alum Karma!! Wonder when Jerry Jones and the rest of the so-called "experts" are gonna wake up to the fact that Tony Romo is the most overrated player in the NFL. Eight years and counting... Meanwhile, the billionaire has 1 playoff in 15 years of ownership?
Dr Z
QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 01:14 PM) *
....most overrated player in the NFL.
I'm not sure how you judge most overrated player in the NFL? By salary? I would start how players were drafted. Tony was not drafted, so I would guess anything after that is gravy. Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind. If you go by quarterback rating (which many do), there are 30 quarterbacks rated lower, as Tony is #4 in the NFL. I might not start my franchise with Romo, but calling him the most overrated player in the NFL is pretty ridiculous IMO.
Hilltopper
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:22 PM) *
QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 01:14 PM) *
....most overrated player in the NFL.
I'm not sure how you judge most overrated player in the NFL? By salary? I would start how players were drafted. Tony was not drafted, so I would guess anything after that is gravy. Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind. If you go by quarterback rating (which many do), there are 30 quarterbacks rated lower, as Tony is #4 in the NFL. I might not start my franchise with Romo, but calling him the most overrated player in the NFL is pretty ridiculous IMO.

I would say just consider the source.
GP1
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind.

Coming into this season, Sanchez had four playoff wins in two years. Lots of starting NFL QBs stink, he isn't one of them. He plays for a defensive oriented coach who doesn't value offense so he suffers. If the Jets would can their coach and hire someone who was willing to play football in the 21st Century, Sanchez could shine.
Dr Z
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:50 PM) *
....Sanchez could shine.
Time will tell. He might get his chance sooner than you think. Jets are considering cutting him. Plus, he has better things to do.
MDZip
QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 01:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 07:45 AM) *
That looked like a team that wanted to win last night, well prepared. Good luck to Chase! thumb.gif

Zip Alum Karma!! Wonder when Jerry Jones and the rest of the so-called "experts" are gonna wake up to the fact that Tony Romo is the most overrated player in the NFL. Eight years and counting... Meanwhile, the billionaire has 1 playoff in 15 years of ownership?


Still sad to see that Chase is our best NFL player right now with Taylors retirement. Nothing against Chase who has done a great job but we used to be a little more prominent in the NFL.
ZipRoo
Ho-hum. So hillbottomer is still living in denial. Typical. Anyone here want Romo at QB when the game is on the line? Or want to give him a $67.5 mil contract after one mediocre season? No? Gosh. Really? No one said he's the worst, as Cleveland corners that market. But overrated? Oh yeah.

Congrats to Blackburn; and here's hoping UA brings Taylor back for some type of honor sooner than later. Why wait five years til he's a "possible" first-ballot guy? Strike while the iron's hot.
Dr Z
QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 04:08 PM) *
No one said he's the worst
Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. That's all I was commenting on.

QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 01:14 PM) *
...Romo is the most overrated player in the NFL.

UAZip0510
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind.

Coming into this season, Sanchez had four playoff wins in two years. Lots of starting NFL QBs stink, he isn't one of them. He plays for a defensive oriented coach who doesn't value offense so he suffers. If the Jets would can their coach and hire someone who was willing to play football in the 21st Century, Sanchez could shine.


I believe the Jets won those games, not Sanchez.
LZip
QUOTE(ZipRoo @ Jan 2 2012, 01:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 07:45 AM) *
That looked like a team that wanted to win last night, well prepared. Good luck to Chase! thumb.gif

Zip Alum Karma!! Wonder when Jerry Jones and the rest of the so-called "experts" are gonna wake up to the fact that Tony Romo is the most overrated player in the NFL. Eight years and counting... Meanwhile, the billionaire has 1 playoff in 15 years of ownership?

LOL. Tony Romo overrated? Look at his stats this season and then come back and try to tell me that.


QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind.

Coming into this season, Sanchez had four playoff wins in two years. Lots of starting NFL QBs stink, he isn't one of them. He plays for a defensive oriented coach who doesn't value offense so he suffers. If the Jets would can their coach and hire someone who was willing to play football in the 21st Century, Sanchez could shine.

LOL. Sanchoke is trash. Who cares if his head coach if defensive oriented. Newflash.. Tomlin is defensive oriented and Big Ben does pretty well.
GP1
QUOTE(LZip @ Jan 3 2012, 01:25 PM) *
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:22 PM) *
Think of all the first round QB picks that stink, Sanchez comes to mind.

Coming into this season, Sanchez had four playoff wins in two years. Lots of starting NFL QBs stink, he isn't one of them. He plays for a defensive oriented coach who doesn't value offense so he suffers. If the Jets would can their coach and hire someone who was willing to play football in the 21st Century, Sanchez could shine.

Who cares if his head coach if defensive oriented.

The philosophy of a coach dictates how he will use his players. Defensive coaches keep a tight hold on offense, which is why few should be allowed to be a head coach in 2012.

Tomlin and the Steelers....This is coming from a huge Steelers fan....Their offense isn't worth much. Lots of yards....not many points (see NFL team scoring stats). The Steelers, and their entire division, played a lot of easy teams this year and it helped their records....How do I know this?...The Bengals made the playoffs in a season when both Baltimore and Pittsburgh made the playoffs. Only the Browns are pathetic enough not to win at least six against the schedule the AFC North had to play.
GP1
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 2 2012, 01:52 PM) *
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:50 PM) *
....Sanchez could shine.
Time will tell. He might get his chance sooner than you think. Jets are considering cutting him. Plus, he has better things to do.

The Jets aren't going to cut him. Let them. See what they come up with...it would end up being a huge joke.

I'll take Chad Pennington's opinion of him over Florio's all day long. What free agent QB would want to go to a team coached by the offspring of Buddy Ryan and his stupid ideas about offense? An offense coached by a Schottenheimer? As the old saying goes, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I don't know how anyone could look at those two names and not be able to figure out what is wrong with the Jets offense. Firing Ryan is the only way the Jets can save their team. He'll just hire another Schottenheimerlike coach if he is allowed to get rid of Schottenheimer and hire another OC. If not, the best thing Sanchez could ever do is leave NY.
Dr Z
The offense runs better when Sanchez is the offensive coordinator and someone else plays QB (even an old man).





He's a screwball, you can have him, I've seen enough of his arrant throws and misreads to know he wouldn't be on my team.
Chase on the other hand, the first time I met him, I knew could play on my team.
Dr Z
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 3 2012, 02:01 PM) *
I'll take Chad Pennington's opinion of him over Florio's all day long.
How about Derrick Mason's opinion?
Dr Z
It's getting ugly.

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But former Jets QB Boomer Esiason also said recently that he doesn't think the Jets can win a Super Bowl with Sanchez. "If you watched Mark Sanchez the last month of the season, he was like a chihuahua standing on Madison Avenue and 36th Street entering the Midtown Tunnel, eyes bigger than you-know-what, and just so shaky," said Esiason
acstorfer
Back to point.

Giants rule!

Loved seeing Chase Blackburn have a pretty darn good game. Giants did the right thing bringing him back. He is forgiven for not getting off the field quick enough in the Super Bowl.

Wish Dominic Hixon was still around.
johnnyzip84
Yahoo article on Chase.
MDZip
Another huge play by Chase. Just returned a fumble for a near touchdown to pretty much seal the upset for the Giants.
Dr Z
QUOTE(MDZip @ Jan 15 2012, 07:30 PM) *
Another huge play by Chase. Just returned a fumble for a near touchdown to pretty much seal the upset for the Giants.
Great game by Chase and the Giants D. Loved seeing two defenses beat the supposed top tier offenses in the NFC this weekend.
Two great money line bets this weekend! Ching.

GP1
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 6 2012, 04:54 PM) *

I'll take my own. It's becoming increasingly obvious that the Jets are full of a bunch of jerks. Jason Taylor couldn't get out of there fast enough. It's a terrible franchise and does to good QBs what every bad franchise does...destroys them.
UAZip0510
Chase and Domenik Hixon will both get a shot at Super Bowl ring #2!
Dr Z
QUOTE(UAZip0510 @ Jan 22 2012, 10:39 PM) *
Chase and Domenik Hixon will both get a shot at Super Bowl ring #2!
How bad is Chase's shoulder injury? I hope he gets a chance to play.
He was all over the field before getting injured. How about that coverage on the slot go route?

PS All Giants and their fans need to send Kyle Williams a Christmas card this year.
GP1
Article

Chase could make around $150K in the playoffs if things go their way. Not bad for a months work and for a guy who was cut early in the season.

I'll be pulling for the Giants.
MDZip
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 23 2012, 08:42 AM) *
PS All Giants and their fans need to send Kyle Williams a Christmas card this year.


And all Patriots fans should address theirs to Billy Cundiff.
zippy5
QUOTE(MDZip @ Jan 23 2012, 10:32 AM) *
And all Patriots fans should address theirs to Lee Evans.

Fixed
bigzipguy
Anybody else think that from the time they came on the field to the actual snap, the Ravens rushed that field goal attempt??
blueandgold
QUOTE(bigzipguy @ Jan 23 2012, 12:00 PM) *
Anybody else think that from the time they came on the field to the actual snap, the Ravens rushed that field goal attempt??


Yes. I thought the exact same thing when I was watching.
GP1
QUOTE(bigzipguy @ Jan 23 2012, 12:00 PM) *
Anybody else think that from the time they came on the field to the actual snap, the Ravens rushed that field goal attempt??

It was a routine, 32 yard fieldgoal attempt being by a veteran kicker. The kicker choked and it had nothing to do with rushing anything. The kick wasn't even close. They practice running on the field to rush a kick when the clock is moving everyday and this wasn't close to that level of being rushed. It was such a choke job that Bill Belichick actually showed some emotion on the sideline when he displayed a shocked look when the ball didn't go through.

The games yesterday prove the evolution of the game and the fact that it has become a game of QBs, WRs and the ability of coaches to use them. The teams ranked the following in all of the ways that matter.

Total offense: Winners = NE 2nd and NY 8th, Losers = Bal #15 and SF #26
Passing: Winners = NE 2nd and NY 5th, Losers = Bal #18 and SF #29
Rushing: Winners = NE 20th and NY 32nd, Losers = Bal #10 and SF #8 (four of the top five NFL rushing teams didn't make the playoffs)
Scoring: Winners = NE 3rd and NY 9th, Losers = Bal #12 and SF #11

The teams ranked in the following in all of the ways that DON'T matter.
Total defense: Winners = NE #31 and NY #27, Losers Bal #3 and SF #4
Scoring Defenses: Winners = NE #15 and NY #25, Losers Bal #3 and SF #2.

Remember, QBs, Coaches, WRs.....

At least we won't have to watch ESPN promote an All Harbaugh Super Bowl for two weeks.
Dr Z
This SB will come down to defense. How will the Giants defend Tom Brady? Will they man up on them like the Steelers did when they finally beat Brady this year? I think Rob Ryan was the one that come up with the game plan when he was with the Browns and beat Brady in 2010. I hope Chase will play, because they will need his coverage skills. Go Giants!
GP1
QUOTE(Dr Z @ Jan 23 2012, 01:23 PM) *
This SB will come down to defense.

They are two of the worst defenses in the NFL. Counting on those defenses to win anything is like an NBA team counting on their back-up center to win a big game for them. It's rare and probably outside of the world of reality.

The Super Bowl will be won by the offense that makes the least mistakes combined with big plays downfield....the same way every NFL game is won. It's been like this since the AFL only the rules allow for more scoring. I actually think the Giants are that team. NE has no downfield threats and they rely on passes to TEs. Brady is brilliant, but he won't be able to dink and dunk them to the finish line. The Giants have downfield threats and combined with NE playing a former college QB now WR in the defensive backfield, I think they will be able to take these two weeks and exploit that weakness. I look for NE to get a lot of yards and fieldgoals. I look for the Giants to score touchdowns off of big plays.

Giants win 31-26.
Dr Z
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 23 2012, 02:03 PM) *
Giants win 31-26.
I'll take the Patriots +4 and the under 57.
Sergeant Zip
Chase Blackburn to be on JRIB today, 1/26/2012.
Dr Z
QUOTE(Sergeant Zip @ Jan 26 2012, 01:14 PM) *
I hope he addresses him as "Chase" or "Mr Blackburn."




Dr Z
Nice breakdown how Giants D will decide outcome of this game Go get 'em Chase!
acstorfer
I don't see the Super Bowl even being close this year. Yes, I am bias being a Jersey born and raised Giants fan, but nonetheless, the Patriots just don't match up. Offensively I give the Giants a pretty hefty edge.

At quarterback I consider Manning and Brady a wash, if not a slight edge to Eli. Yes, Eli doesn't meet up to Brady legend wise (yet), but Eli isn't intimidated by the "legend" thing either though. In fact, over their last three meetings only two of them were meaningful and Eli took both those games.

Running game: Huge edge to Giants! This edge is especially huge considering the atrocious run defense by the Patriots. The Giants will control the game through the run which will lead to a time of posession of about 35 - 40 minutes.

Short passing game: Edge to the Patriots. Brady will have to live with the short pass this game. The Giants know this and will be prepared for this. The Giants will give up the small play happily and will clamp down hard in the red zones. Also, don't forget that the Giants have a more than capable short game themselves.

Big play: Huge advantage Giants! Again, just a brutal big play duo and a horrible Patriots defense. Branch will probably burn the Giants once or twice but not enough to really be a deciding factor. And again, Ocho Cinco will play no factor.

Defenses: Giants advantage HUGE! On paper it appears the Pats defense improved during the playoffs, they didn't. Look at who NE faced in the playoffs, Denver and Baltimore. Neither are offense first teams.

Strength of schedule: New England with the exception of Baltimore last week, has not beaten one team that finished with a winning record. Their number 1 seed was an absolute joke, their schedule was a joke. Every good team the Patriots faced this year, beat them. Again, with the exception of the Baltimore game. Now about that Baltimore game, there was no good reason Baltimore should have lost that game. I've never seen a team give away a game like that.

The Giants on the other hand had one of the most difficult schedules in the NFL, in fact the second half of the schedule was the most difficult schedule in the NFL. Also, they were also the most injured team this year as well. It was amazing they even got to the playoffs! Even with the week by week bashing by great opponents, even with the hobbled starting lineup, they still already beat the Patriots. Now that they will be playing them a full strength, it will be a massacre.
Blue & Gold
QUOTE(acstorfer @ Jan 28 2012, 10:24 AM) *
Running game: Huge edge to Giants! This edge is especially huge considering the atrocious run defense by the Patriots. The Giants will control the game through the run which will lead to a time of posession of about 35 - 40 minutes.

My quick $0.02.

I think this will be the biggest deciding factor. Eli may not even have to do much but "manage the game," this time around.
GP1
QUOTE(acstorfer @ Jan 28 2012, 10:24 AM) *
Big play: Huge advantage Giants! Again, just a brutal big play duo and a horrible Patriots defense. Branch will probably burn the Giants once or twice but not enough to really be a deciding factor. And again, Ocho Cinco will play no factor.

Big plays are critical in deciding NFL games. Think about Super Bowls...Riggins long run...Ward long reception in Super Bowl XL...Willie Parker long run...Bradshaw passes to Swan. The list is long. The Giants will make them. The Patriots don't have enough big play guys because they rely on the oxymoron "big play tightend". That player doesn't exist. He'll get some first downs, but not big plays.

I love the Giants winning this game.
Dr Z
QUOTE(GP1 @ Jan 29 2012, 10:14 AM) *
The Patriots don't have enough big play guys because they rely on the oxymoron "big play tightend". That player doesn't exist. He'll get some first downs, but not big plays.
I don't think he'll be 100 percent healthy, but Gronkowski is not too bad. Hernandez may be able to pick it up for him. He seems to be a unique offensive weapon when you can line up your TE and run him out of the backfield.
johnnyzip84
Just saw a nice segment about Chase on CNN Headline News' Morning Express. No mention of UA specifically, but it was nice to see nonetheless. I'm sure it'll remain in the Headline News rotation over the next few days.

BTW, count me in the camp who thinks the G-Men will win. I need some proof (beyond the silly Pro Bowl) that the AFC has caught up to the NFC before I'll expect another AFC win.
Zip_ME87
Interesting Chase Blackburn article, NY Post today

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/supe...6JbeaTmLD3PyaRI

johnnyzip84
QUOTE(Zip_ME87 @ Feb 2 2012, 03:24 PM) *
Interesting Chase Blackburn article, NY Post today

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/supe...6JbeaTmLD3PyaRI



Awesome read!

It's great to see Chase and Dan Basch remain this close. FB Basch and his TE brother Dennis were definite bruisers in their day. And was there ever a more appropriately named FB? Dan may have been as driven a player as I've witnessed on the field as a Zip. It's not too hard to imagine why he and Chase would hit it off.

Thanks for posting, Zip_ME87!
scottditzen
QUOTE(Zip_ME87 @ Feb 2 2012, 03:24 PM) *
Interesting Chase Blackburn article, NY Post today

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giants/supe...6JbeaTmLD3PyaRI


Thanks for posting!!

I still want to slap Eli's stupid face (Charger fan here) but I'll surely be rooting for Chase. He reps the Zips with a lot of heart. You gotta love it.
johnnyzip84
I'm surprised there's been no comment so far on Chase's interception. Sure he got burned by Hernandez on the earlier TD, but that was one heckuva play made far downfield by a LB who is primarily a run stopper. Great job Chase! Let's finish strong!
Akronnnnnnnn
QUOTE(johnnyzip84 @ Feb 5 2012, 09:26 PM) *
I'm surprised there's been no comment so far on Chase's interception. Sure he got burned by Hernandez on the earlier TD, but that was one heckuva play made far downfield by a LB who is primarily a run stopper. Great job Chase! Let's finish strong!


I am a fair weather Giants fan thanks to Mr. Blackburn. He's had a great game so far.
johnnyzip84
A 2nd ring for Chase (and Hixon I think....not sure if you get one on injured reserve)!
liljc
QUOTE(johnnyzip84 @ Feb 5 2012, 09:53 PM) *
A 2nd ring for Chase (and Hixon I think....not sure if you get one on injured reserve)!


That's right! Congrats to both Zips on their multiple Super Bowl rings!
Buckzip
Nice to see Chase makes some huge plays. Sweet Int...
akronzips71
Not only did he get a great downfield interception that stopped a scoring drive, he also hit a runner so hard that he knocked out Pierre-Paul, something that opposing linemen have been trying in vain to do for two years.
I predict that Chase has a job with the Giants for as long as he wants, even after his playing days are over. Since they brought him back he has two interceptions and a 40 yard fumble return. Not bad for a guy they FIRED.
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