Been reading alot about what C-USA and MWC are planning to do... merger/no merger etc.

There seems be some suggestion of some new conferences forming soon.

I also read, on this board, about Eric Mansfield (Channel 3) tweeting that he had heard of "back room discussions" about making a pitch to the Big East....

I usually stay away from this topic as it tends to veer away from reality.. but I look at what UA has been doing recently and I can't help but wonder what the end-game is?

$65 million Stadium
Terry Bowden
Chuck Amato
Jim Tressell

SEC membership

The end-game is making a push to get in the realigned Big East, and the Big East selecting Memphis is proof that football success (which is used by so many Akron detractors as why the Zips will never have a shot) won't be the main factor in whether or not UA is chosen. But I can tell you why it's still a pipe dream at this point ... the JAR.

There is no way Akron is in consideration until a new arena is built. However, the fact that Jim Tressel was not only brought in, but his first order of business is to start a fundraising campaign to build a new arena is a big hint on how the "back-room" discussions have been going.

It seems there has been discussion between UA and the Big East, and the Big East has hinted that if a new basketball arena is built, the school would be a serious contender for one of the spots that would be open if/when the league expands to 14 or beyond.

All you have to do is look at who the Big East is bringing in to see what it is trying to accomplish: Bring in schools that have at least above average facilities in both football and basketball that are located in large (top 50) media markets. So far, the schools that have been added are Central Florida (Orlando No. 19 market), Memphis (No. 48 market), San Diego State (No. 28 market), Houston (No. 10 market). Boise and Navy are the exceptions to that, but both are/have become national brands.

When looking at TV market size, this is the list of the top 25 largest markets without a "BCS" football college located directly in it:
4. Philadelphia - Temple and Villanova (already a basketball member in the Big East)
17. Cleveland-Akron - Akron and Can't State
20. Sacramento - Sacramento State
21. St. Louis - No college that qualifies
22. Portland - Portland State???
24. Charlotte - UNC-Charlotte??? (restarting a football program in 2013)

I think it's a matter of time before the Big East takes either Villanova or Temple in football (my guess is Villanova once it solidifies a FBS program. Adding one of those two, though, means at least one other school will be added. I think it's safe to say both won't be from Philadelphia.

Going by the Big East's market-size expansion, next up on the list is Cleveland (Akron and Can't). Can't would need to build both a new football and basketball facility to have a shot, whereas Akron would only need a basketball arena. Akron holds a huge advantage there. Plus, Akron is centrally located in the Cleveland market. Being 35 miles south of Cleveland (roughly 2 million people in its MSA), and 20 miles north of Canton (400,000 people in its MSA) could help to make neither of those fringe areas within the market. Akron's MSA is about 700,000.

Sacramento State has worse facilities than Akron. It's basketball arena (1,200) is smaller than most Division I high schools in the Akron area. While adding West Coast schools to go along with SDSU and Boise is something the league is going to have to consider, it won't be Sacramento State. Portland State (which plays FCS football, anyway) is in the same boat.

Now, Charlotte is an interesting school to follow. If they get up to the FBS level in football, it's a school that will be seriously considered. But considering they won't even start playing until 2013, they are probably seven to eight years away from being in consideration.

After that Top 25, you can go down the list to find some other possibilities (some more realistic than others in top 50 markets)
36. Greenville - East Carolina
39. Kalamazoo- Western Michigan
40. Birmingham- UAB
42. Las Vegas - UNLV
44. Albequerque - New Mexico

Then you have some other schools who could be options outside of top 50 markets (again, some more realistic than others)
51. Buffalo - Buffalo
53. New Orleans - Tulane
55. Fresno - Fresno State
58. Richmond - Richmond??
61. Tulsa - Tulsa
65. Huntington - Marshall
72. Honolulu - Hawaii
73. Toledo - Toledo

Looking at the complete list, Akron's main competition (if a new arena is built) would be Charlotte (if it gets its football program up to speed quickly) and East Carolina (the biggest market left with the most ready-to-compete school in football). Although expanding west can't be counted out.

However, Akron has some advantages outside of the university. Mainly, it would open recruiting doors in Northeast Ohio. In the Cleveland-Akron-Canton area alone, there were 40 kids who signed with BCS schools. The area usually produces 3-4 high-major basketball players as well. That is something that can't be ignored.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet....

Most intriguing...

With WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn gone how much prestige will the Big East hold for Akron?

Rutgers also wants out by the way.

I know this is the football thread, but I'd really miss MAC Madness at the Q!!

Isn't the Big East already using our Stiles Facility for the Big East Indoor Track & Field Championships? I know they were in the past.

@wadszip, nicely researched. Many also laughed at the idea that there was any chance of Jim Tressel actually going to work for UA in any capacity.

Once those leaving the Big East go and those staying stay and those coming in enter, shouldn't the Big East just change it's name to Conference USA?

Good point!

That conference has lost allot of luster in recent years. Still, it would be far better to go there than to stay in the crappy MAC. Even conference USA would be a huge upgrade to where we are right now.

Like I said in another topic. Akron is a diamond in the pile of s*** that is the MAC.

Outside of Temple I have ZERO respect for any other schools. We have by far the best facilites when it comes to football, add the potential of a new arena and no other schools are willing to make the kind of commitment to athletics as we do.

I think any thought of Akron joining the Big East is pipe dream. Having said that I would love to see us receive an invitation and I am super-impressed with your argument and research. I'd like to buy you a beer and dream on together. Well done! One day we will be in a better conference.

Not a pipe dream by any stretch of the imagination. It looks like to me - a basic outsider, new to the program - is that the President is really trying to use UF's "model" of success. They have invested in their athletic programs, and in 20 years or so (or less, really) became an elite educational institution (before you moan about this - unfortunately it is just the truth - this incoming class has 29,000 freshman applications for 6,400 spots - they've got about 50,000 total students). They took the amazing sums of money raised from successful basketball and football and spent it appropriately to keep athletics on top, while continuing to become a better University. 95% of all of their professors has PhDs. That's just impressive to me. And I hate Gators.

I'm going to have to disagree. Toledo just revamped their basketball arena in 2008, and it seats 7,000+ with club seats, loges, etc. Last year they build an indoor practice facility for football. Honestly, I have not been to the Glass Bowl in almost 25 years, but they do get some nice teams coming to play their AND their football team has been way more successful than ours. Not sure if there is room for expansion. I don't think you can discount Toledo from any of these discussions.

Good points. Toledo has been a leader in the MAC for a long time now. It takes more than facilities to have a good football program. Toledo has a history of winning, good coaches, talented players, institutional support and community support. I wish we had the program Toledo does. On the upside, we could be better than Toledo.

Since Memphis is going to BE, what about replacing them in a CUSA-MW merger?

Colo St.
Wyoming
UNLV
New Mex
So. Mill
Marshall
E. Carolina
UAB
Tulsa
Rica
Tulane
UTE

Hmm, I'm not too excited by this conference.

p.s. your Zips buttons are way cool.

Yuck. Even I had go go back to a thread that I started 3 years ago to see what teams I said

I'd be interested to know exactly what a basic outsider who is new to the program sees that makes them think that the President is trying to use UF's model of success. Will you elaborate?
As for Florida being an elite educational institution, I do not hate Gators, but I have noticed that the farther south I go, the smarter I become.

and all of them are better than the MAC teams

I would take NIU, Temple, Ohio, and Toledo over most of those teams, except for Southern Miss and Tulsa. In fact, Temple, who has never beaten a winning MAC team, waxed Wyoming only two months ago and Toledo beat Air Force in a shootout.

East Carolina is a solid program with a GREAT fanbase. Check out their stadium...even on gameday, it's full.

Congratulations! You just made the most absurd statement of the year! Tell him what he's won Bob!

Call me crazy, but if I had to choose between staying in the MAC or joining that list of teams in a conference I'd take the latter in a second. The MAC is just dead flat boring in every way. That league would at least bring a few strong programs into the mix. At the very least there would be some great road trips every year to really interesting places. The MAC is just the worst there is. I would LOVE to see Akron get out of it as soon as possible.

One thing Akron has over Toledo is being in a major media market.

I agree with the other poster below. I can see some rivalries developed easily with a couple of these teams. To me, Marshall is a no-brainer. Terry and Doc Holliday grew up together (Doc is a year or two older) in West Virginia - went to/played at WVU together (along with Tommy), and have known each other for years. I know probably 5,000 hillbillies from West Virginia that would travel to Akron to see that one!

E. Carolina has been up and down, but I really like their head coach, and the OC is a very very bright young offensive mind who trained under Mike Leach (Terry spent a lot of time with Mike Leach over the past 4 years learning his offense)

UAB - well -- it IS Alabama -- and honestly, they're just overboard on anything college football.

Tulane? If they could get their act together (Tommy Bowden led them to an undefeated season in 1998 - oh and Rich Rodriguez was on Tommy's staff then) - might be a stretch...

UNLV and Colo State are both programs that could potentially improve substantially..

And a little travel always makes thing more exciting

Let the western C-USA teams go shore up the MWC. Take the remaining Eastern C-USA teams and some MAC schools who invest in athletics and you get:

North:

U@B
Toledo
Temple
UMass
Akron
Marshall

South:

So. Miss
E. Carolina
UAB
Tulsa
Rice
Tulane

All sports for all teams & there's some historically good teams there for both sports. Travel isn't out of control, and there's a good mix of urban and traditional campuses.

If the travel is too wide, you could let Tulsa and Rice go west , and try and get WKU and MTSU in from the Belt. Then the hoops in the league would be immediately a 2+ bid league most years.

It's tough with all of the flux to take a flyer on something like this. It really is. I want UA to keep pushing itself and make the most of it's investments in athletics. Those investments can benefit the entire campus if they yield results. Not sure if I would jump at this or risk staying pat where they are. The investment in FB tells me that LP & the Board would probably go for a transition like this.

I think we would need to bring a rival with us .. so hopefully UT would see it the same way.

Watcher, I think this is the only realistic outcome for Akron if we are going to join a better conference. We will not get into the Big East and C-USA as it now stands is not a good marriage. But take some of the schools as you have suggested and join them to a few MAC schools and you have a conference we could get excited about. Any conference realignment that will be advantageous to Akron will have to follow this path IMHO. Nice idea Watcher!

Something along the lines of what ZW suggests would actually start to make some sense. Replacing the departing Memphis in the depleted remnant of C-USA would not. In my opinion. Blind hatred for the MAC may make it seem like C-USA is a big step up. However, if you look closer at the reasons why you are dissatisfied with the MAC, you may discover that C-USA would actually present the same list of dissatisfiers only at a larger budget and footprint. At least that's what I have concluded, but I realize I am in a small minority that actually (for the most part) likes the conference we are in now.

Like the rest of you, I want the University to live up to its maximum potential. Assuming that the BCS sticks with the notion of AQ conferences, inclusion into one of those is the real goal. Joining a cherry picked C-USA won't get the Zips any closer to that goal. Building a powerhouse football program will. Even if it competes in the MAC.

This is exactly where I'm at in my thinking, Keener.

Of course I'm for anything that maximizes the UofA. I don't care what it is. But I don't hate the MAC. I think we'd find ourselves in a nice position if we'd come to dominate this conference - much like what Boise does/used to do in the WAC.

I have a handful of rivalries that I really enjoy: Buffalo, K.e.nt, Ohio, Miami. Plus budding rivalries with Toledo & WMU.

But I've been an Akron fan for so long that my thinking may really be clouded. If Joe Akron isn't at all interested in those rivalries, no matter how much I may enjoy them, then okay, let's get out of the MAC.


But presently, I'm not too hip with joining C-USA. As presently constituted, I don't think C-USA is much better than the MAC - just extremely spread out.

Or Marshall when they were in the MAC.

The question really is what is in store for college football? If conference shake-ups result in BCS schools having their own division in a few years, none of this will matter. In fact, if they don't, I don't see how any of this matters. At this point, teams below the BCS/remaining Big East teams are jumping from one bad conference to another. I don't see the point. We can have it really good where we are right now. We have a national soccer program, a basketball team that is dominating the conference and a football team that can easily be turned around with the current staff. Everything else is Title IX compliance or general nonsense. We can dominate the MAC in the three major sports we have invested or looking to invest. Let's get this right before we make a move that might damage momentum. The MAC survives like a cockroach after a nuclear holocaust. It isn't going anywhere so let's make certain we have the three major investments showing results, not potential results, before we do anything.

You are missing three teams that will be joining the MWC next year. Nevada, Fresno, and Hawaii

click me

I agree with the comments above.

Which conference is going to invite Akron in as things stand today? IMO, a better conference than the MAC is a fantasy right now.

UA football needs to become a consistent force in the MAC before anything BIG can happen. Then, we can either stay in a stable MAC while gaining national attention, or maybe a better/new conference will take interest when we are winning and drawing large crowds in football, basketball and soccer.

The three best things that can happen to help UA achieve improved national standing - Terry Bowden builds a winning football program, a new basketball arena, and a drive to 40,000 enrollment by 2020 with many more campus-resident students. All three are in process to happen. Good things will come if these plans are properly executed.

Yeah, before we look on to bigger and better conferences we have to prove we can compete. The sad fact is, UofA football is one of the reasons that MAC football is looked so down upon. If we can turn this around, and I hope we can, then so can all of the MAC and we can become more respectable. I also can't help but think, why do so many schools want out of the Big East? Why leave the MAC just to get done in by a sinking ship?

Truth is with Ohio State, Penn State and Michigan all so close to the Akron area, Akron will never get the blue chip recruits.

Besides, losing the Can't State rivalry in football and basketball would be a blow to both our schools.

It would be way short on members for soccer, which has to be considered vitally important to us. I'd add NIU and SIU in all sports (natural geographic rivals, one in each division) as they are good overall fits, have soccer programs, and add another state to the footprint. I would also invite Kentucky and South Carolina for soccer.

I'm not excited about any of those schools. I would much rather play Can't and Ohio, and for that matter BG, and Miami.

Road trips to Tulsa, Rice, Tulane? For what, another half ounce of credibility.

I'd rather play in what's left of the Big Least, especially in hoops. Football against Cincinnati, Louisville. Still not as exciting without Pitt and WVU, but better than the other.

SMU would be an interesting matchup. The team that got the death penalty from the NCAA, against the team that got the death penalty from its QB and later AD.

Four counting rifle.

Well -- just on the face of the moves I've seen in the past several months, along with seeing the "now famous" facilities (which do NOT disappoint in any possible way -- except of course for the JAR... and seriously - what's the deal with the "bridge to nowhere"???) basically what I said to begin with. UA has spent the money to upgrade facilities (before great athletic success.. "if we build it, we will win"), seem to have some very, very specialized programs that are ranked very high nationally, is located in an area that has the population to support the size/scope of the University as it is now - and what it plans to be in the near future, seems to value academics and the academic faculty - which leads me to believe that with some major successes/money from football - the appropriate percentage would be reinvested into that staff and academic facilities/programs, etc... All which begins/continues the cycle of attracting great students, great student-athletes, great faculty -- all which continue to build the reputation of the University and make it a sought after institution.

25 years ago - the joke was that it was easier to get into UF than community college. Now, 29,000 freshmen were vying for 6,400 spots in the 2011 freshman class. That is INSANE! But very true. I see the similarities - whether it is an actual "model", I don't know -- I may have not used the proper words. But its all semantics. Common sense is just common sense sometimes.

P.S. Zipmeister -- regarding your comments about feeling smarter the further south you travel -- I won't disagree with you 100%, but the state of Florida really isn't considered the South. If you want to talk Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, etc... you'll get no argument from me

All excellent points. If, in the next 25 years, we get to the point where the football team generates money to plow back into the athletic program rather than surviving by using funds obtained from the University general fund please get back to me.

While I agree with those who aren't enamored by a possibility of Akron joining CUSA/Mountain West, there is no doubt that if that was worst-case, the school would make the move. It's all about the money. The money that league would bring in just based on TV rights would offset the cost of travel. I had a conversation with Mike Thomas when he was the AD, and he was very candid about the university wanting to get out of the MAC, even if it was to CUSA. With the investments the university has continued to make in athletics since he left, I doubt athletic department/university's stance has changed.

Getting out of the MAC really didn't have much to do with level of competition, but rather, it's all about the money.

However, personally I don't think CUSA has to be the next step. I think the Big East is more realistic than people want to realize, if, and it's a big if, a new basketball arena is built.

NewZipsFan brought up the University of Florida example. I see where you're going with that, but it's not fair/logical to compare Florida with Akron. Florida is a charter member of the SEC (always has been a major power, and currently is THE major power in college football). It's also the flagship university of the state of Florida. Ohio State and Florida are equal comparisons, not Akron, as much as I love my university.

Akron, though, is comparable to both Central Florida and South Florida. All three are large, urban universities (located in major TV markets) that are still in their infancy when it comes to DI athletics. South Florida really began to invest in its athletic programs in the late 1990s and skyrocketed into the Big East within five years of becoming a DI-A school in 2001.

Central Florida, however, is actually the better comparison to Akron. UCF didn't begin D1-A football until 1996 (Akron in 1987). UCF joined the MAC in 2002 and played for three years before moving on to CUSA. UCF must have dominated in its three years to have been able to make that move up so quickly, right? Not exactly. They went 7-5, 3-9 and 0-11 (and 1-2 against the Zips head-to-head).

What was the difference for UFC? In 2004, with the impending move to CUSA (despite experiencing a 3-9 season the year before) UCF hired George O'leary as head coach. O'Leary was highly successful at Georgia Tech then was marked with the scarlet letter when after taking the Notre Dame job, it was learned that he had exaggerated his resume. UCF took its lumps in O'Leary's first year, the school's final year in the MAC. But with a new stadium in the works (which was finished in 2007), UCF went 8-5 in its inaugural year in CUSA (O'Leary's second year at the school) in 2005, and he has continue to improve the program since then.

Hmmm, does this seem familiar to Akron? New stadium, highly successful coach with "baggage." Seems to me that Akron is using the UCF model. Coincidence, that Akron opens with UCF this year? Maybe, but the UCF model is something the Akron seems to be following. After all, the same company that was responsible for UCF's new campus/basketball facilities, KUD, ( http://www.kudllc.com/projects/index.html ) is the same one that the University of Akron hired to head its 2020 plan.

What pushed UCF over the top in the Big East's eyes was the new basketball facility (the Big East will always highly consider basketball). With a top-notch basketball facility, UCF now has everything the league is targeting for new membership:

1. A large TV market (No. 19 Orlando).
2. Solid facilities in both football and basketball
3. An athletic department striving to improve
4. Fertile recruiting grounds (moreso in football in UCF's case)

What is Akron missing? Only the basketball arena. And the university didn't hire Jim Tressel to lead the fundraising effort for one to get built, just so JT could get a nice 200,000 a year retirement package.

And since some have mentioned soccer. The Big East, even with the defections, is still a league that still has some very good soccer programs. I'm sure that is another feather in the cap for Akron. While soccer is way down on the list of expansion priorities, having a school that can turn the sport into a revenue producer, like Akron, doesn't hurt.

People need to block out the noise (which likely stems from Can't State, CSU and YSU fans in this area) that Akron can never be more than a MAC school because of its lack of football success. First, that's not exactly the case (Memphis and its 5 wins in three years still is heading to the Big East). Second, we really don't know how successful Akron can become in football. The program was for the most part mediocre (not horrible like some like to exaggerate) while playing in an abysmal facility. I'd say even being able to field a mediocre MAC team playing in the worst facility in all of Division I football is more of an indicator of what kind of program Akron can have, than being horrible (for two years) in a brand-new facility. Let's face it, the Rob Ianello hire was the most important in the school's history, and they blew it. But considering the athletic department canned him, with time left on his contract, before it got worse, and went out and got Terry Bowden, shows that they realized the mistake and are doing whatever they can to make sure it's not repeated.

The Ianello hire cost the university two prime development years, but if Tressel can get the ball rolling on an arena and Bowden can mirror O'Leary at UCF, the school will be back on its original track in a couple of years. Luckily, the Big East won't really decide what direction it wants to go until 2015 when Navy comes aboard. That gives Akron a couple of years to show it's serious about continuing to improve all of its programs.

In my opinion, Akron is much farther ahead in many areas than Florida was 25 years ago. Florida was not always the "flagship" University in Florida. Florida State had better academic programs and facilities in many areas for many years. UF 25 years ago was maybe where UCF is now - with a lot less enrollment and far inferior athletic facilities.

What I am obviously not conveying properly - and I apologize for my inability to communicate my point -- is that Akron has a vision for growth, many of the pieces already in place, and the commitment from the administration to make it happen.

Why does a state have to have only ONE "flagship" University? Florida has a population of roughly 19 million, and Ohio has roughly 11 million people. Why can Florida have FSU, UF, UM - and to a lesser degree USF, UCF, FIU and FAU - but Ohio can only have Ohio State? There is plenty of population and love for college football for Akron to become a much bigger player in the state and the nation.

At this point, I pretty much agree with what you are saying.

For a long time, I have hoped for a conference for UA that included Temple, Buffalo, Toledo, Navy, Army, ECU, etc. For a little while, I even dreamed of getting Memphis involved and having Temple and UMass join in basketball (even though I know it would hurt my alma mater's conference). Obviously, things have moved in a direction that already make some of this impossible.

I still think that a time may come where the non-BCS schools join up with perhaps the CAA schools to form another division. I know some are vehemently against that kind of situation and dream of being "the next Boise", but I find the possiblity of a 16 team playoff with CUSA, MAC, MWC, Sun Belt, CAA and WAC with 1-2 possibly home playoff games at INFO much more appealing as being something that is realistic.

Actually his retirement package is already closer to $500K per year.

True. So, I should've said the university didn't hire him just to add $200,000 a year to his retirement package.

I think you're selling the University of Florida way short. 25-years-ago, Florida was joining the prestigious Association of American Universities (AAU). If Akron hypothetically applied right now (which technically isn't possible being that the AAU is invite-only), the application would be thrown in the trash without opening it. That's not a slam on the University of Akron, only 34 public universities are in that organization.

Athletics isn't even a debate, either, Florida has been a member of the SEC since 1932. The school's done a great job of enhancing its programs from meddling SEC-level to national power, but it's always had a chair at the big-boy table.

And Ohio is more than Ohio State. University of Cincinnati is in the Big East, while there are the six Ohio MAC schools. Realistically, Ohio could support three BCS-level teams. Ohio State, Cincinnati (Southwest Ohio) and Akron (Northeast Ohio), compared to Florida's 5. And support five MAC-level schools, compared to Florida's two.

So, we're definitely in agreement about Akron becoming a bigger player in college athletics.

Not selling UF short -- I've really been very impressed with their positive growth - which is probably why I see similarities. Heck, I send them a check twice a year -- my son is a Plant Molecular and Cellular Biology major there. Thank goodness he is not a football fan - otherwise we would have issues

Good question.

I'm going to assume, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but you are from the south.?.? Now that I live in SC, I understand this point much more than I would have had I never lived in the south. Is Clemson or SC the flagship school of SC?...Depends on who you ask. Same goes for NC and NCST. Same goes for Florida. Miss or Miss St.? Other states like Tennessee, Kentucky or Georgia are more like the midwest. Out west, OR and ORSt. Wash and Wash St. AZ and AZ St. God only knows what the flagship school in California is.

In the midwest, I can't think of a state, with the exception of MAYBE Michigan that doesn't have one school that is the flagship. For better or worse, that school is looked upon by what seems like the majority as the center of the world when it comes to following a college program. It creates a different world view that those schools outside of the midwest. Maybe it's all of the German immigration to the midwest years ago that created this orderly fan dynamic (lots of Germans in Kentucky and Tennessee as well)...who knows. In any event, we are just a little different about those things. We value order and hard work. Anything that distracts from an orderly day of work, such as thinking about a flagship school other than the one most everyone follows, becomes very uncomfortable. I'm totally comfortable with tosu being the flagship school of Ohio. Our problem has never been tosu...it has always been the gun we keep shooting ourselves in the foot with when we try to pull it out of our holster.

Indiana is an exception.

The "merger" has been made official. And it would be an absolutely horrible move for Akron (or any MAC team) to join it. With this move, the MAC has become the premium non-BCS football conference, simply because the huge amount of dead weight of this new conference drags them down below the MAC.

Depending on how it's done, I don't hate the concept.

Say for example it settles at 18 teams.

So you have 2 nine team divisions, divide by East & West.

You could have 8 divisional FB games and a conference championship game. Add one crossover game each year to make things interesting and cut down on the need for FCS non-cons.

In hoops, you keep divisions, play home & home w/ your entire division, and say 2 crossover games for an 18 game conference slate.

In the non-revenue generators where possible, it's divisional play only until the title games.

Keep the championship games in the middle (say Memphis or St. Louis) .. and travel isn't completely ridiculous.

Divisions could look like:

East:

Akron
Toledo/Temple
Marshall
ECU
UAB
S. Miss
Tulane
Rice
Tulsa

West:

UTEP
Wyoming
Air Force
Colorado State
New Mexico
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
Hawaii

The real detail would need to be in the media contract & rights. If this league could garner a C-USA type deal where each team is getting significantly more $$$ than the MAC. Then I'd take a hard look at this. I would think this league will do better in the media rights than the MAC will.

Curious times.

Go Zips!

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