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  1. 10 minutes ago, Lee Adams said:

    It seems pretty apparent that the AD wanted to go with younger coaches hoping for a better long term return than SUB .500. OK!  Then lets not compare b.ball and football. Two completely different situations. I am not going to assume that Arth and Co. are going to win a MAC champeenship. But I hope so! I didn't assume JD and Co. were going to win a MAC. NONE OF U DID! If u haven't figured it out by now, this is the sports life at U of A.. If U do not like it there needs to be a more drastic solution. Figure out what it is!

    See U at the game on Saturday! Right?!

    i will be there.  i have a field pass which is probably a waste on me since my football IQ is quite low.  But I now know to watch the offensive line.

  2. 49 minutes ago, Hemiman said:

    Hey guys, making the trip up for the game from Troy. Any tailgating tips or close by places to grab a pregame meal and drink? 

    #1 There is a lot of construction in and around Akron, especially downtown and a number of one-way streets.  However, around the stadium there isn't any construction.  Are you staying at a hotel Friday night or arriving on Saturday?

    I'm not as familiar with the dives around campus, but there are a number of good places to eat within 5-10 minutes of the stadium.  Bricco, Crave, Cilantro, and there'a new popular place called Akronym Brewery at the corner of Main and High Streets.

    Someone else will have to give you a guide to tailgating.  With the 0-3 start and the general state of affairs there won't be much of any Akron crowd there.

  3. 1 hour ago, Balsy said:


    PJ Fleck =/= Tom Arth.  You can go ahead and drop that comparison.  PJ Fleck is the exception to the rule, not the rule.  PJ Fleck was an unknown Quantity when he became a head coach, he was a WR coach from Tampa Bay.  Tom Arth is not.  Tom Arth is a 9-13 head coach at FCS Chattanooga.  If we were looking for "innovative" and "new" he was not it.  If he had just come from John Carroll than maybe I'd be on board for the comparison, but he didn't.  He already made the jump to a higher devision and really didn't have much success to speak of.  Bowden (and I really want to stop making the comparisons, but need to because everyone immediately throws him under the bus on this forum) had success EVERYWHERE he coached.  Salem, Samford, Auburn, North Alabama.  Akron is really the only place he seemed to struggle to get regular success as a head coach. 

    To me this underscores the problem that everyone always ignores: Akron seems to have a unique problem other schools don't seem to have, and we all want to ignore that for some reason.  It also manifests itself in attendance, and with diehards like us.   

    Fun Sidenote:  Tom Arth played QB in 2004 for the Scottish Claymores in Scotland.  Who woulda known?

    first of all I never said Arth was the reincarnation of Fleck or Jesus Christ for that matter.  My point is that many great coaches have a couple bad years before they get things turned around.  And until he turns things around and starts getting wins and winning seasons, it will be open season on him.   


    Also, Arth  wasn't the one chirping to Williams, "hey, fired Bowden and hire me." so comparing the two is exercise in futility.   As for the culture at Akron, there's a new president coming in and I'm certain if he wants a new direction for athletics he will make the appropriate big changes beginning with Athletic Director.   However, if the new president sees that the players academics are better, he will likely give Arth time to prove himself.

  4. This is the thread from the humiliating BG game last year.  I don't see any of you Arth haters taking up the torch for Bowden during of after that game.  What I see are posters who perpetually complain and like to beat, when it's down, anyone or anything related to the university or its sports teams.  Someone posted that they wanted the new coach to be a reincarnation of PJ Fleck.  His first year at WMU was 1-11.  The previous year WMU was 4-8.  Craig Creighton is turning around EMU.  His first two seasons were 2-10 and 1-11.

    I realize that until there are marks in the win column it's open season on Arth and AD Williams and Infocision will remain empty.  But those who now defend Bowden who went 1-11 is first year or two, had a peak, and then brought the team back to the bottom of the MAC are simply doing so because they just want to hate.

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  5. 48 minutes ago, Balsy said:


    But saying "Terry Bowden" does matter.  Because that's a known quantity.  That's not arbitrary, that's not me speaking off my ass.  You know it, and I know it.  

    Now which recruit am I excited for so far in the 2020 class?  None of them.  I have zero excitement in Akron Zips Football.  My excitement has been completely drained, and it started with the decline of the Bowden years.  I've been burnt too many times by getting excited for whatever recruits to care before they actually show something.

    Please take your misery somewhere else.

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  6. 14 minutes ago, 94zipgrad said:

    Boy this thread sure got off track from UAB game

    Let me catch u up:

    Bowden would have had us in the BCS playoffs.  His teams were highly disciplined and the play- calling top notch.  4-8 and a loss to the lowly BG at home wasn't his fault.

    Arth is just a pretty face in over his head and was a huge hiring mistake that will destroy the football team and probably the university.

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  7. 6 minutes ago, Lee Adams said:

    Isn't Zagorski the OC also? Was he calling plays too? Would like to know because there were a couple of critical situations where the calls seemed puzzling. But,some of that is due to the poor O-line play and apparent lack of a 'big' back who can grind out a couple of yards when needed. Oh where is Grice when you need him?

    That was just my venting from the stands.    Maybe Milwee was in the booth under an assumed name?  I thought that was an opportunity for Kato to run it.  I watched Arth a lot and liked his enthusiasm.  When the defense was on the field, he was over huddled with the offense.  After that sequence, I did see Arth go over to the big guy (assume that's  OC Zagorski) and have a few brief words.

  8. 25 minutes ago, LoyalZIP said:

    For some perspective, 


    Last time I was at Infocision Stadium (not the spring game), it was a pretty nice November Saturday, on Senior Day for one of the more decorated senior classes in out history. Against a much worse team (than UAB) in Bowling Green that had fired its coach in the middle of the season, I saw the Zips players AND coaches quit while one player fell asleep on the bench as the Zips failed to reach the end zone against statistically one of the worst defenses in FBS, as the coaching staff decided to take a couple of time outs home down only two scores against, again, one of the worst defenses in FBS. Today, I saw a very young and inexperienced team play their asses off and play like idiots a lot. I saw a young coaching staff that isn't used to FBS ball. I saw a kicker leave 4 huge and easy points on the board in the first half. I saw a head coach screaming at the referee to reset the playclock quicker with just seconds to go because he wanted to give his boys a chance. And I didn't see any players or coaches quitting. How refreshing. Everyone knew we wouldn't be worth a damn this year, and shoot the run game stuff is probably going to drive me up a wall this year. As is the young DBs getting toasted. It felt like we ran as many positive plays today as we did the entire second half of last season, but there's still a very long way to go. Trust the process. Hopefully the boys are still doing well in the classroom as well. 


    By the way, rooting for Charlie Frye to fail miserably next week feels weird, but you've gotta do what you've gotta do. GO ZIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thank you for this post.  Illinois and UAB aren't like bad teams.  It's funny how those on here who praise Bowden as the best thing that ever happened to Akron football were also Dambrot dead-enders.   I can understand carrying a torch for Dambrot but Bowden?  Some just want to hate.

  9.   Also, UAB, Troy, and Illinois aren't Morgan State, Towson, Tennessee Tech, etc.  Bowden padded his record with a few of those.  What was Bowdens first year record?  Cherry Bowl?  Big win at NW because of some interceptions then almost blew it because he couldn't run out the clock properly.   Who beat Michigan?  App State did.  Did we beat App State at home?  No.  How did the Iowa State series turn out?

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  10. I am willing to give Arth a chance like I did Groce. Groce is now in his 3rd year and has 99% his own players and has no excuse.   Frankly, where our ADs failed over the years is that they weren't mercenary enough in their firings.  Bowden should have been gone a year earlier and the same with Dambrot.  But the university doesn't have the luxury of buying out contracts like Notre Dame does.

  11. 8 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:




    ...and the guy who had national name recognition, gave us a MACC appearance, and won the most ever games in a season for an Akron D1 team.


    Don't forget, we ate a year of a contract for this.


    Even if the cupboard is currently bare, discipline issues and poor play calling are purely on the coach. While we suffered through some of that with Bowden, his teams were usually competitive and won some notable games and had a small handful of good seasons, particularly after bringing us back from the iCoach abyss. Why do I feel we have returned to that dark time?

    Because that's your negative personality.

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