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  1. Book it now: There will not be College sports in the fall. The first domino to fall is also the largest Public University System in the country. There is precisely 0% chance other Public Institutions do not follow, and the NCAA has already said if students are not on campus sports will not be played. "Availability of on-campus housing will be reduced, and student athletes shouldn’t expect to resume regular sports before faculty and students return to campuses", White said. On the Flip-side: What would cancelling do for the U financially? Would we actually come out better off budget-wise and may not need to make as drastic-a-cuts to programs?
  2. You made me learn something. I never thought the one L was the US favored way to spell it. Huh.
  3. I've always called it the "Culture of Resume Building". And that's All Akron has ever been IMHO. Those who did "give a damn" were never kept or given meaningful opportunities for vertical movement, so they got gobbled up by other institutions. And those that are usually here are here to pad the Resume for something better(Matt Wilson) or pad the Retirement fund (Proenza). As for the fan aspect, spot on. I agree it's been a gradual thing. You can tell when I graduated (2013) and I was lucky enough to be there for a National Championship and some other fun stuff, and always wanted to be a diehard afterwards. But it has never seemed like Akron was ever taking a step forward or in a positive direction, and has always slowly slipped. Absolutely No Vision.
  4. I mean yeah...this week the entire world infrastructure collapsed and the house-of-cards was lay bare. The 2-3 payday slaughters was an attempt to reconcile the already out-of-control house of cards and maintain the program. It was a more long-term strategy, one that isn't really viable after the floor falls out. They aren't mutually exclusive ideas...or logically inconsistent or something...the circumstances have drastically changed.
  5. I know...I was just using the running theme here that Soccer is on the cut table while football is not. I'm saying it should be the other way around. I know sometimes we don't like to deal with "hypotheticals" because at the end of the day nobody here has any say. But c'mon everyone...we're without ALL sports right now except...(I kid you not I saw this on ESPN the other day)...marble races. Which is actually surprisingly fun to watch for 10-15 min! This is more of a broad statement not a dig or anything at you haha ; )
  6. It's not ideal, but at some point we have to be adults about it. I'm a Zips fan. But you're going to cut a National Championship team that has continued to compete for National Championships; and is far cheaper to maintain over a team that has surpassed over .500 once or twice in the last two decades? That doesn't even qualify as stupid. Let alone futile. Your last point is on the mark. I've always been a loyal Zips Football supporter, but even I stopped watching it. First stopped attending games, then stopped watching it....hell not even looking at the score of the game last year. I've been to more soccer games than Football games in the last 3 years. I consider my Alumni Season Ticket package to all sports as a donation, so if I miss a game I'm not worried about it.
  7. Is that reported "attendance" or actual attendance? Well its probably time for you to go then. It's not 1971 anymore. Yeah...And Akron WILL NEVER BE WINNING FOOTBALL. Like you have better odds on the Mega-MIllions. It's delusional to keep playing this game. "If they can compete...watch attendance Climb!" Sure...calling bullshit on that. That's a big "if", meanwhile we're cutting entire colleges to barely stay afloat. At some point the madness HAS TO STOP. This quote right here says it all: "We have high schools with more butts in the seats than many Zips games". Yeah, which is why you should cut the program. PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT AKRON FOOTBALL or MAC FOOTBALL. They didn't in 2012 they still don't now, and it will continue to get worse.
  8. Harvard Medical and John Hopkins have projected that intermittent social-distancing might be necessary until 2022. Everyone always focuses on the bats...but it's the damn Pangolins everyone needs to jump on! Those damned devilish mammals that look like lizards are freaking weird and surprisingly cute at the same time! Just look at him...totally planning world domination: (For those who don't get the reference; SARS-CoV-2...aka Covid-19...has Bat AND Pangolin RNA. So it appears that two separate wild coronaviruses had the opportunity to interact and have...a version of weird virus sex...aka recombination. The running theory has been the virus made the jump from Pangolins to Humans, and the evidence is slowly mounting that this was the case. And it would be some sort of divine justice because the Chinese hunt the cute little Pangolins for everything from "Ancient Chinese Medicine" to other "Luxury" products...much like the Ivory trade). And sorry I couldn't help it...I'm a science teacher I had to post a picture of a Pangolin! : )
  9. Yup it amuses me too. It's the same old, tired, business bullshit I've heard my entire life. Just mindless justification for something that is observationally and objectively not correct. It's pretty damn obvious that Football is an abyss, and it's pretty damn obvious it's an albatross that's been artificially kept alive ONLY by the graces of pay-day games. The LAST HOPE for this program was by some miracle that Bowden would miraculously do something (in my opinion of course) and it never materialized. It's time to put the deathnail in the coffin and move on. 0-12 last year... If Akron cuts Soccer over Football I'm done with the University. I'll have my fond memories of the past and never step on the campus again. Because that would be just pure stupidity. I have far more fond memories of Akron Soccer than I do of Akron football.
  10. Does it help? Sure. And the coaches are paid HANDSOMELY for helping to train those students. Yet they get paid millions, and don't actually do the game itself. But okay...on let's do a thought experiment: Ohio State get's all of Akron's players. If the institution and coaches is more important to building them into winners, than Ohio State should be able to go 10-2 against normal Ohio State opponents with Akron's roster right? C'mon now...be honest...you KNOW that TALENT and athletic ability is a key factor, not just coaching. Like I don't get why you don't see how it's kinda wrong for EVERYONE to get paid handsomely, but the students almost have to be punished? Like it's mind boggling to me. I'm not advocating for them getting paid millions. But they should at the VERY LEAST be able to sign autographs for idiots who are willing to pay for them, or be in a commercial or w/e. At the very LEAST. That's ZERO business of the institution, the coaches or the NCAA. ZERO. And the institution should NOT get a cut, unless of course they are wearing some branded thing, just like any other contract. I can't believe I'm being the capitalist here...
  11. Yup, and we all know how utterly incompetent those fools are.
  12. A large portion of ESPN is dedicated to the broadcast (which they get revenue) and other programming (which the get revenue). That's whole levels of management, and other workers that are all getting paid on a system that wouldn't exist without the players. Just look at how desperate ESPN is for programming right now...and if there's not College sports in the Fall; how many people are going to be without jobs at ESPN? The student-athletes don't need to "pay-back" the institution. If the athlete didn't play at one institution, there is certainly another institution they could go to. That's because the DEMAND, is for the product of football, not the institution. One of the major assets in producing that product, is the athlete. The institution is merely the marketplace to facilitate the demand is paired with the product. And the institution is "paid-back" by what it makes off of selling tickets, broadcast rights etc. Of which, frankly, the athletes should have a share in. But even if they didn't, they absolutely should be able to sell their likeness without any reprocussion from the university. THEY are the product that is in demand.
  13. Hows that even remotely possible? ETSU is in no-way any better financial situation than UA. My aunt works there... and regularly talks about the ridiculous financial strain that adding football put on them as an institution.
  14. Why? Scholarship is the "pay" you are giving the students. Get rid of the scholarship, now you're going to have to pay them. Ridiculous idea. I think it's pretty obvious this gravy-train has been maintained for the benefit of many (outside of the athletes themselves) for decades, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. You can't have an almost zero-cost workforce who is also almost completely 100% your product, and it not be expected to go crumbling down at some point.
  15. I'm bored. Do we have anything else to do? It wasn't a dig at you...
  16. (quoting from the article) "experts warn against cutting sports" ? "Experts in college sports spending..." ? "Despite likely revenue decreases, experts say universities still don't have to cut teams" ? "Donna Lopiano, the president and founder of consulting firm Sports Management Resources and the former director of women's athletics at Texas...'The first thing you say to a school facing financial exigency is: Do not cut sports'...." ? "Every alumni that ever played that sport at your institution in the last 100 years will be on your case, and the loss of future donated revenues and goodwill is not something you want to deal with." ? Alright I'll stop here. I put the laugh emoji because I want to emphasize that these comments and "experts" in this case is synonymous with people who have a non-objective bias/benefit from maintaining the gravy train. There would be a lot less opportunities for Donna Lopiano to get lucrative jobs as the head of "Sports Management Resources" (whatever the hell B/S that is) if there was a mass exodus of Universities from sports. Sports that are artificially held inflated and propped-up by a socialized cost (student fees, universities footing the bill) and not an actual market demand. There's a LOT of fat to be cut out, and a lot of the fat "middlemen" that would be cut out are the "experts" who profess you shouldn't cut them. As for the Alumni thing. I'm tired of this argument. Yeah, I'd be pissed and probably not have as intimate a connection to my Alma Mater. But the U wastes more money on maintaining these bloated sports programs than it gets from Alumni. So what if Jason Taylor would get mad if Akron cut Football? When was the last time Jason Taylor did anything major for UA other than show up for a bobblehead giveaway? Like...not a good argument.
  17. We're obviously going to get the context in the next coming days/week. But I don't see how most college athletics survives.
  18. After reading some of these posts I feel alot of you are living a bygone era. Rivalries? Hell we can't get enough people to show up to our fiercest one! (Kent). I think Covid-19 is the worldwide correction on all the house-of-cards that have been built over the last 30-years. No way Covid-19 doesn't change College sports irrevocably. With Akron cutting 6 of it's 11 colleges? Should it honestly be funding teams at all?
  19. Since we're stuck at home and watching a lot of stuff streaming; I found this guy on youtube who talks about different unique histories of plane engineering. Its a fun little educational diversion. This episode has a little segment about the USS Akron and the Akron-Class flying aircraft carriers that were made by the US Navy. Fun little Random reference
  20. Why is being realistic being a "nay-sayer"? How about this: I EXPECT the Zips to win 1 game this year. Anything over that and I'll be happy. Anything under that will be unacceptable to me. That positive enough for you? You cannot objective look at our schedule and see any more than 1 win.
  21. The season will not happen if they are unable to let fans into the stadiums. If the pandemic is still at that heightened level of concern by September (which it will be) we have other things to worry about than NCAA football.
  22. Person #4 was Stark County. Person #5 is Trumbell county; which were both community spread...which likely means it's been here longer than we think it has been; which is one of the reasons the WHO declared it a Pandemic. The R-squared value for the growth was 1.15 the other day; which if continued would be 1,000,000 cases in the next two months. If it can be lowered to 1.05 it'll be 400,000. The two ways to easily bring the R-squared down is limiting chance of exposure (large events with lots of people) and limiting chance of infection (washing hands).
  23. Yes, in fact the current reaction is a little late because experts were ringing the alarm to be careful and start getting prepared last year. Go read about the Spanish Flu of 1918. Then go listen to this interview with infectious disease expert. Like the fact that the economy nose dives in response to a pandemic and supply-chain economics means it's a problem with the economy, not with the experts or their opinions for how to deal with infectious disease. If the people in charge of this country (politicians) hadn't cut pandemic-response teams (whose job it is to spear head preventing this from happening/preventing the panic from happening) and actually listened to health officials when they make warnings years...even decades ago...that we need to be preparing for things like this; making changes to our supply chains etc... When Hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico; the world faced a shortage of bags used for saline because 85% of them were produced there. And it's like no-one knew it wasn't going to happen either. Governments actually need to LISTEN to experts instead of playing politics.
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