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  1. 6 minutes ago, LZIp said:

    It would be news to me if there was a single high school, collegiate (well maybe not counting Oberlin), or professional team who did not have some sort of prayer before and/or after games. The essential gist for those of you who may not know, at least in my experience, is "thank you God for looking over our teammates and keeping us safe. Please look over x player who was injured." I certainly wouldn't consider it preaching/pushing religious beliefs upon people. If participating offends you that much? Don't bow your head. Just like you'd do in a wedding or a funeral or whatever else it may come up.

     

    I agree with you that it *could* create problems, because this is America in 2018 and everybody has to be offended over something, but I've never heard of anyone creating a stink over it.

     

    The Supreme Court has ruled on it three times. In 1962, they ruled that prayer can not be initiated by a public school, as that would violate the Establishment Clause. In 1992, they expanded on that ruling to say that schools can not invite members of the clergy (even non-denominational ones like they have at The Chapel across the street from campus) to lead prayer on school grounds. Finally in 2000, they ruled that students can engage in prayer that is voluntary, led by the students and done without official permission from the school, which means that school officials/employees can not make an announcement or acknowledge that a time for prayer is about to begin.

     

    I don't have a problem with it, but when the Supreme Court rules three times on something, I figure that it's best to steer far, far away from that topic when you're a large and highly-visible government institution.

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    4 hours ago, LZIp said:

    ??? have you never played a team sport?

     

    2 hours ago, CDMac said:

    I'm not sure I follow why a team prayer would be a no-no. 

     

    4 hours ago, zippy5 said:

    Lol I was actually going to post that and then I read your post 

     

    It's legally fine as long as it's not compulsory. Having participation in a prayer be mandatory would create a massive headache for a government institution.

     

    But as far as even having a team prayer goes, I can see it potentially causing problems with team cohesiveness. It creates divisions between religious and non-religious teammates, to say nothing of teammates that may practice different religions or even different denominations of the same religion, depending on how the prayer is conducted. I don't see why you would want to introduce potential conflicts like that into the locker room.

  3. I like having the bye week inbetween the non-conference and MAC games, especially after what looks like a very difficult non-conference schedule.

     

    But why does Kent always get the Wagon Wheel games early in the year but when we host it it's always late November in the cold?

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  4. UCF is one of the largest universities in the US and maybe the world. 3x the number of students as UA. They're a Space Grant university. Regardless of their athletic profile, UCF is a major step up from UA and as president, Matt Wilson could wield significant influence over higher education in the USA.

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