skip-zip Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 To be honest, i thought attendance last night was pretty good considering the weather conditions. It wasn't packed, to say the least, but it was still a respectable showing in cold, wet weather conditions. You think so? Just the "announced" crowd (2,500) wasn't even 1/2 the size of the biggest crowds this year, and it was against one of the biggest names on our schedule. And there were certainly quite a few no-shows, so the actual attendance was probably well under 2,000, which may have made it more like 1/4 or 1/3 the size of Ohio State or Cleveland State crowds. If people were paying attention to the forecast, they could see that the rain was ending. I was surprised and disappointed. Just inserting a little perspective: Prior to 1980, the school record attendance was "well under 2000". I bet it didn't pass 2000 till after the 1986 Final-4 trip. I'm well aware of that. I've been around here a long time. If you go back a couple of posts, you'll see that I am responding to those people who were predicting some very lofty attendance numbers this year. A 2,500 "announced" attendance against a big-name program should be pretty humbling, and a return to semi-reality for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted October 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 updated the first page with this chart: Attendance is up 13% over last year. Not sure if we're still ranked 2nd in the nation, I'll update those numbers later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 updated the first page with this chart: Attendance is up 13% over last year.Not sure if we're still ranked 2nd in the nation, I'll update those numbers later.It seems that chasing a National Championship is strong motivation. Your analysis would be improved if you added weather conditions for both years. I am wondering if weatehr played a bigger role this year over the last 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 It seems that chasing a National Championship is strong motivation. Your analysis would be improved if you added weather conditions for both years. I am wondering if weatehr played a bigger role this year over the last 2 games.thats an interesting point as we all know that attendance lags when the weather is crappy...HOWEVER.... we had a pretty large crowd during the playoff game against Cal last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 It seems that chasing a National Championship is strong motivation. Your analysis would be improved if you added weather conditions for both years. I am wondering if weatehr played a bigger role this year over the last 2 games.thats an interesting point as we all know that attendance lags when the weather is crappy...HOWEVER.... we had a pretty large crowd during the playoff game against Cal last year... But that was deep into the playoffs. Despite what people may think...sports are entertainment and will always draw a significant amount of "casual" fans. Weather will keep many away but "casual" fans will want to see big games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 But that was deep into the playoffs.thats precisely my point. taking weather conditions at gametime will only show a part of the story as you have the added variable of "marquee" matchups and the playoffs. It would still be another good way to look at attendance, I was just pointing out a valid flaw in the data such considerations would produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Snyder Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 But that was deep into the playoffs.thats precisely my point. taking weather conditions at gametime will only show a part of the story as you have the added variable of "marquee" matchups and the playoffs. It would still be another good way to look at attendance, I was just pointing out a valid flaw in the data such considerations would produce.Yea...there are lots of variables. But if you look at our attendance trend over the past years and some of the ACC schools...it appears that attendance declines when the weather gets cold and or rainy. Even big names draw less in late fall. I am not trying to throw water on the analysis...quite the opposite. Bobbyake spent lots of time (incredible actually) putting this together. I think some are disappointed that the attendance has dropped. I am trying to show that weather will play a big role...even in a National Championship year. We should be very proud of our attendance. My guess is that we do not take as big a hit as other big soccer programs at this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Weather was the cause for the Penn State game, but temperatures weren't too bad for Hartwick. The casual fans will eventually turn into hardcore fans, the biggest change in attendance seems to be coming from the student section. I believe adding additional seating would help. Does anyone know the exact number of seating available for FE/CC? BTW, I overheard someone working the ticket stand say over 1,300 season tickers were sold. So at worst, Akron's attendance would be 1,300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Agreed. Weather inevitably affects attendance regardless of the sport and our position in this region forces that hand. I too am happy to see our attendance is still up even with the weather getting colder and less "perfect" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 It seems that chasing a National Championship is strong motivation. Your analysis would be improved if you added weather conditions for both years. I am wondering if weatehr played a bigger role this year over the last 2 games.thats an interesting point as we all know that attendance lags when the weather is crappy...HOWEVER.... we had a pretty large crowd during the playoff game against Cal last year...From what I remember, the only bad weather last season was during the Cal game. For some reason, although bad weather was predicted for a number of games, it always cleared up or held off for the 3+ hours (warm ups through end of game) for our Men's Soccer team. I guess it was a sign of destiny. And, of course, weather probably didn't keep many away from the Elite 8 game vs. Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Weather isn't the only variable. There are other variables including day of the week, whether or not classes are out and students are out of town on holiday, whether or not other major local or televised events are going on, etc., etc. Actually, you can drive yourself crazy trying to keep up with all the variables. I think bobbyake is doing a good job of tracking the basic stats without making himself go crazy trying to track all the variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Final Attendance figures for the regular season:A 1.2% increase.After all regular season games are performed, I'll update the rest of the NCAA so we can see how we compared.BTW, Akron's attendance would rank 3rd in the NASL, 4th in the USL-Pro, and 2nd in the PDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 5, 2011 Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 But that was deep into the playoffs.thats precisely my point. taking weather conditions at gametime will only show a part of the story as you have the added variable of "marquee" matchups and the playoffs. It would still be another good way to look at attendance, I was just pointing out a valid flaw in the data such considerations would produce.It is critical in this type of analysis to identify both invalid and valid flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 But that was deep into the playoffs.thats precisely my point. taking weather conditions at gametime will only show a part of the story as you have the added variable of "marquee" matchups and the playoffs. It would still be another good way to look at attendance, I was just pointing out a valid flaw in the data such considerations would produce.It is critical in this type of analysis to identify both invalid and valid flaws.comparing weather conditions would help determine your hardcore base vs casual, but I'm not interested in pulling the stats for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Akron moved down to the 3rd spot in regular season attendance average. I only updated the top 15 teams from my last pull which covers all teams up to Oct 7, so this top 15 list isn't official. But the odds of a team that was below the top 15 passing Akron with only a few games left are less than 1%. Also note that the teams that aren't highlighted still have a home game to play, which will all take place today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Here's the top 20 for regular season attendance. I did not update schools beyond the top 20, which means some from 15-20 might not be in the top 20. I made the data public for anyone to update https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key...bE03UmZCWFBxRXc Here's the top 20: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Attendance for other teams against Akron: Cal St. Fullerton @Northridge 539 Cal St. Northridge 1097 St. Louis 4637 Tulsa 795 Western Michigan 1431 UC Santa Barbara 4340 Michigan 750 Buffalo 316 Florida Atlantic 453 Total 14358 Average 1595 Our attendance for every team except for UC Santa Barbara should be higher than their season averages. It will be interesting to see how many people SMU can get to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I went ahead and put together the stats for the Lady Zips: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted April 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 I found attendance figures posted on University of Nebraska Omaha's website. Not sure if these are official, the NCAA website does not have them posted yet. NCAA Division I Home Attendance 1. UC Santa Barbara 4782 2. Maryland 3781 3. New Mexico 3749 4. Connecticut 3579 5. Akron 3300 6. Louisville 3023 7. Creighton 2909 8. Cal Poly 2140 9. Clemson 2111 10. Wake Forest 2007 11. Indiana 1928 12. Saint Louis 1885 13. North Carolina 1828 14. Charlotte 1542 15. Notre Dame 1447 16. Virginia 1444 17. USF 1405 18. St. John's 1371 19. South Carolina 1327 20. Michigan 1136 21. Nebraska Omaha 1130 22. Portland 1112 23. Furman 1096 24. West Virginia 1087 25. College of Charleston 1017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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