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#1 ImAZipFan

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:39 AM

I just got a twitter update that Loeffler said no.

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More re: Loeffler to Akron...per sources, he did not accept on the spot. Looking at NFL position coach options. Told he'll decide soon.



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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:45 AM

I just got a twitter update that Loeffler said no.

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More re: Loeffler to Akron...per sources, he did not accept on the spot. Looking at NFL position coach options. Told he'll decide soon.

Yeah, that came across last night. I take it as a "maybe if I can't find something better." We can't even get a MAC OC to accept a job? Maybe no one wants to work for the leadership in Athletics?
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:47 AM

I just got a twitter update that Loeffler said no.

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More re: Loeffler to Akron...per sources, he did not accept on the spot. Looking at NFL position coach options. Told he'll decide soon.

Yeah, that came across last night. I take it as a "maybe if I can't find something better." We can't even get a MAC OC to accept a job? Maybe no one wants to work for the leadership in Athletics?


It's at the very least certainly starting to *seem* that way.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 09:48 AM

Good Point... about the "Something better"..... I guess the question becomes... how long to we wait?

I just got a twitter update that Loeffler said no.

FootballScoop Staff @footballscoop Close
More re: Loeffler to Akron...per sources, he did not accept on the spot. Looking at NFL position coach options. Told he'll decide soon.

Yeah, that came across last night. I take it as a "maybe if I can't find something better." We can't even get a MAC OC to accept a job? Maybe no one wants to work for the leadership in Athletics?



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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:00 AM

Does this signal to Proenza he has a bigger problem on his hands than getting a coach in here?

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:19 AM

Does this signal to Proenza he has a bigger problem on his hands than getting a coach in here?

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:19 AM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary. Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:30 AM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary.

Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

You can't include such a clause in this Zips' contract. The aforementioned Jesus isn't going to be sniffing .500 at UA for at least 3 seasons.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:32 AM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary.

Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

There is no clause about 2 years. There is statement common in all coaching contracts, that if you are deamed to not be meeting certain criteria (failure to perform) the university can move you to another position. It just so happened that Ianello failed so badly that they had to exercise this after only 2 years. Its the only way schools can protect themselves from a bad coach. All contracts have buy outs and out clauses.

If anything Loeffler is waiting to see how bad we want him (counter offer) and wheter Addazio moves on from Temple.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:38 AM

I believe UA has erred in not floating the names of potential candidates, so as to gauge the fans' support. For instance, if Ianello's name had been tossed out two years ago before the hiring, I believe Zip Nation would've egged the AD's office. This hiring goes far beyond Xs and Os. This new coach will be charged with re-uniting a fractured fanbase, an apathetic student body, a highly discouraged group of alumni donors...not to mention coaching up a group of young men who've just endured the berating of a non-respected employee (I dare not call him a "coach") for two years. It's a tough assignment, and this new guy better have the charm and charisma of.....well, I don't know who....but *somebody* impressive. ;)

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:38 AM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary.

Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

You can't include such a clause in this Zips' contract. The aforementioned Jesus isn't going to be sniffing .500 at UA for at least 3 seasons.

No more banking on "mulligans," hire a good coach!!


I agree 100% that you shouldn't, in this particular case especially. But I've heard some talk that such a clause was part of the contract offered to PW. I sure hope not, or we'll never get a decent coach in here.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 11:49 AM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary.

Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

You can't include such a clause in this Zips' contract. The aforementioned Jesus isn't going to be sniffing .500 at UA for at least 3 seasons.

No more banking on "mulligans," hire a good coach!!


I agree 100% that you shouldn't, in this particular case especially. But I've heard some talk that such a clause was part of the contract offered to PW. I sure hope not, or we'll never get a decent coach in here.


I, too, believe this to have been the case.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:23 PM

I have a suspicion as to why were having a hard time get anyone to sign on the dotted line. How many 1st time D-1 head coaches would agree to a 5-year contract that has a 2-year out clause? This clause, hypothetically of course, stipulates that if after 2 years the school determines the program is not going in the right direction this coach may be reassigned within the University at half of his salary.

Im certainly no expert. I'm not even a novice. But I wonder if such a performance clause is common or not. I know weve had some discussion on the board about this (regarding Ianello).

You can't include such a clause in this Zips' contract. The aforementioned Jesus isn't going to be sniffing .500 at UA for at least 3 seasons.

No more banking on "mulligans," hire a good coach!!


I agree 100% that you shouldn't, in this particular case especially. But I've heard some talk that such a clause was part of the contract offered to PW. I sure hope not, or we'll never get a decent coach in here.


Bingo! Why would a successful head coach take a job with only a 2 year guarantee. Especially since the AD has to be on shaky ground himself and might not be here in 2 years. A new AD could come in & use the clause to bring in his own guy. It would effectively banish him from being a head coach for 3 more years - at half pay! Why should a new coach have to pay for the previous mistakes of this administration?

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 12:52 PM

I'd have to believe that getting a bright, young coach, like a Campbell or a Loeffler, has it's own distinct challenge right now. If you fail as a HC coach in D-1A, even at a bad school, at a young age, you're road back could be blocked forever. That has to be a risk they have to consider, knowing that other better opportunities should surface in due time. And they have plenty of time to wait.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:08 PM

I find it difficult to imagine that UA is offering coaching candidates contract terms that are more onerous than what other, similar universities offer. We may not like how TW has run the program, but he is not stupid. He and the search committee must know that Akron doesn't have the coaching attraction of Alabama or LSU. I hope they wouldn't think they could dictate silly contract terms. I'm really having a hard time believing that is the problem. Winters has a pretty good gig at Wayne. He is almost god-like there right now. If Loeffler is reall talking about an NFL postion, that is a big attraction in the way he manages his career. He's probably better off going to the NFL if his eventual ambitions are there. So these guys had/have viable options and reasons for saying no to Akron. I doubt we are getting turned down due to some crazy clause in a contract.



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