skip-zip Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: If length of contract is the issue, he already has that here. If money was the issue, wouldn't he have taken the South Florida job? I don't see anything here that will move the needle for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, skip-zip said: If length of contract is the issue, he already has that here. If money was the issue, wouldn't he have taken the South Florida job? I don't see anything here that will move the needle for him. I think Akron basketball peaked during Zeke Marshall's senior season. It was the best season the Zips ever had. Up until the Abreu incident it seemed like the Zips were going to make a nice run in the NCAA. Then we got blown out by VCU and haven't returned to the tournament ever since. After this past season I've been struggling with the realization that maybe the Zips will never make the tournament again. Probably never get to see a great Sweet 16 run or even a tournament win. This imaginary new arena is never going to happen. The JAR is a dump and no matter how much money they pour into it, we'll still have a glorified HS gym. Maybe Keith Dambrot had enough. I don't think Duquesne is a better option, but maybe he's just frustrated with UA. The same way a lot of us fans feel. Even though UA has a lot of problems, he won't have the same following in Pittsburgh. Lebron isn't coming to watch games in the Palumbo Center or practice with his players. The student body and fanbase is very small. A small catholic college in the shadow of a big ACC school that has a history of success in just about every sport. That city doesn't care about Duquesne. If you live in Pittsburgh you are either a Pitt fan or WVU fan. Edited March 27, 2017 by akzipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 The problem with Duquesne is even though one could argue (and I'd agree with) that it has a higher ceiling than Akron it also at the same time would realistically take Dambrot 3-4 years just to rebuild it enough to get to where Akron currently is. It would be a great hire for Duquesne as Dambrot could get the program on track so that it could be an attractive job in 5-7 years when Dambrot decides to retire, but I don't see it translating into Dambrot being the beneficiary of the turnaround unless he intends to coach past 65. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 I find it fishy the details are already leaked. Either it's BS or KD trying to get Akron to pony up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) There won't be a better time for him to leave UA than there is now. Now is the time if he wants to go. Edited March 27, 2017 by Sportsjunkie330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, zippy5 said: I find it fishy the details are already leaked. Either it's BS or KD trying to get Akron to pony up Dumb move on Akron's part to pay more. If he doesn't take this 1) He is NEVER leaving 2) Already have money problems, why pay more for something that is already cemented in place? I like him and want him here, said it many of times. But it is dumb to pay more for someone that isn't leaving. Bad Business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, skip-zip said: Have you been to Dayton Arena? I have. A big concrete hole in the ground with seats. Everything in that place is old and dungeon-looking. For example, if you sit low enough you can't even get cell. phone reception. You can bitch about the JAR, but I can think of plenty of better comparisons if you wish to view the JAR unfavorably to other arenas. I have for both HS and College games. It is the best basketball arena in the state. Best atmosphere. I can get over the cell phone service... mine worked fine by the way.... But I was talking about Duquesne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blackburn said: Dumb move on Akron's part to pay more. If he doesn't take this 1) He is NEVER leaving 2) Already have money problems, why pay more for something that is already cemented in place? I like him and want him here, said it many of times. But it is dumb to pay more for someone that isn't leaving. Bad Business. Maybe he wants a commitment on an arena. Duquesne has already played their search into a $40M renovation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 49 minutes ago, skip-zip said: If money was the issue, wouldn't he have taken the South Florida job? https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/841651549290016769 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Maybe he wants a commitment on an arena. Duquesne has already played their search into a $40M renovation Im just saying that I can't see this as a play to elevate salary... and if it was, it would be dumb to pony up on UAs part. If he doesn't leave now, never will... why pay more for it? Not smart. I see the arena being a play, but not that big of a deal. 1M per year PLUS incentives... He gets less than 1M AFTER incentives. If he goes at all, he goes now. Aging and people aren't going to waste their time with KD in future considerations if he turns everything down. He is stuck now if he doesn't go. And Akron is dumb to fear otherwise... and pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) I can't put a finger on it, but I'm not getting a good feeling about this. Let's hope it's gas. Edited March 27, 2017 by clarkwgriswold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 This isn't a negotiating ploy, I do know that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) Im just saying he is DONE with being in consideration for other jobs if he doesn't take this. He has to take it, you would think. Thinking out loud here.... If he takes it, 7 years. If UAs next hire is a dud, and would give next guy at least 4 years, UA would GLADLY take him back! If he doesn't find success at DU, and UA does, then he gets to retire with 400K more per year (roughly). And it isn't like our roster is poised for another "run" either. Edited March 27, 2017 by Blackburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) @spidervoice Keith Dambrot is rumored to be close to accepting the Duquesne job. Edited March 27, 2017 by Sportsjunkie330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sportsjunkie330 said: @spidervoice Keith Dambrot is rumored to be close to accepting the Duquesne job. I guess I'm missing that Tweet from @spidervoice? Last one I see is from Friday. Might be my 6-Core Intel is slow today. I do see this: https://twitter.com/cellarspider3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sportsjunkie330 said: @spidervoice Keith Dambrot is rumored to be close to accepting the Duquesne job. Not seeing that anywhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kangaroo kid Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blackburn said: Not seeing that anywhere... FWIW this doesn't seem to be anyone credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, kangaroo kid said: FWIW this doesn't seem to be anyone credible. Agreed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, skip-zip said: If money was the issue, wouldn't he have taken the South Florida job? I'd like to know when KD interviewed for the South Florida job?... and when did he get and what was the offer. I certainly believe he was a candidate, but the timing of an offer and to be told he rejected it-- less than 24 hrs from losing the MAC championship seems tight... or slightly exaggerated. If the DU offer of 7/7 is there, I expect he leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 Dunlap: Hey Duquesne, Hire Mike Rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) I know we're all confident our esteemed ABJ beat writer is on this story like stink on a pig. Edited March 27, 2017 by jupitertoo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, jupitertoo said: I know we're all confident our esteemed ABJ beat writer is on this story like stink on a pig. I picture him watching Star Wars in a dark basement with OSU posters on the walls at the moment 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, jupitertoo said: I know we're all confident our esteemed ABJ beat writer is on this story like stink on a pig. He'll figure it out when he doesn't see KD on the sidelines for the first game next year (on his TV). The ABJ article on KD leaving will be from wire reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kangaroo kid Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, UAZip0510 said: I'd be much more worried if Dayton came calling than I am about anything Duquesne can throw at KD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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