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#1 Blue & Gold

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 10:53 AM

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From the article:

The package was delivered to a home on East Dartmore Avenue, which was the residence police listed for Durgala, and it was not addressed to Abreu.

“That’s true. It was not,” Meeker said. “It was mailed to the residence where the other person was arrested, Alex was not there at the time and it was not sent to him.”



So... now Abreu wasn't even at the house at the time of the delivery? I thought all previous indications were that he had actually signed for the package?
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:11 AM

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From the article:

The package was delivered to a home on East Dartmore Avenue, which was the residence police listed for Durgala, and it was not addressed to Abreu.

“That’s true. It was not,” Meeker said. “It was mailed to the residence where the other person was arrested, Alex was not there at the time and it was not sent to him.”

So... now Abreu wasn't even at the house at the time of the delivery? I thought all previous indications were that he had actually signed for the package?


The package was delivered to a home on East Dartmore Avenue, which was the residence police listed for Durgala, and it was not addressed to Abreu.

“That’s true. It was not,” Meeker said. “It was mailed to the residence where the other person was arrested, Alex was not there at the time and it was not sent to him.”

Meeker declined to comment about whose name was on the package, citing what he described as some “open areas” of police and prosecution evidence that still need to be examined before trial.


Of course, this is what his lawyer says, so take it with a grain of salt.
However, the implication is that the other guy gave him up.

Note that the other guy's lawyer asked for a separate trial. That usually means that they made statements against each other.

IF AA was not there, and the package was not addressed to him, it may be a tough sell to a jury.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:15 AM

Initial reports are almost always full of gaps, misinterpretations and outright errors. We still don't have the whole story on exactly what went down. More facts will come out during the trial.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:28 AM

Initial reports are almost always full of gaps, misinterpretations and outright errors. We still don't have the whole story on exactly what went down. More facts will come out during the trial.


This. They obviously have something other than word of mouth if they arrested him when he wasnt even there.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:06 PM

This. They obviously have something other than word of mouth if they arrested him when he wasnt even there.


It is not so obvious.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:24 PM

It is not so obvious.


To me it is. People dont get charged with trafficking drugs with just word of mouth.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:46 PM

To me it is. People dont get charged with trafficking drugs with just word of mouth.


And you know that how?
Are you a DEA Agent or a Prosecutor?

The Police made an arrest. The circumstances are unclear.

They have charged him with possessing something that he may have never possessed.

Yes, they could have been Acting in Concert. That looks like the basis of the charges.
But, you need to put evidence beyond a reasonable doubt in front of a jury at trial.

They may or may not be able to do so.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:27 AM

Anyone with legal experience have thoughts on the June 24th trial date? Are there typically delays with this sort of thing, or will this actually be wrapped up - one way or the other - this summer? Even if he's not on the team anymore, it's a distraction I'd like to see gone before the season starts.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:19 AM

Anyone with legal experience have thoughts on the June 24th trial date? Are there typically delays with this sort of thing, or will this actually be wrapped up - one way or the other - this summer? Even if he's not on the team anymore, it's a distraction I'd like to see gone before the season starts.


There is no way to know.
The lawyers and witness have to be available, and things happen.

It does not say it is a firm trial date.

In New York, once all the preliminary hearings are over, the case is set down for trial. Each adjournment will be for "trial", because that is the status of the case.
But I don't know how they proceed in Ohio.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:12 PM

Anyone with legal experience have thoughts on the June 24th trial date? Are there typically delays with this sort of thing, or will this actually be wrapped up - one way or the other - this summer? Even if he's not on the team anymore, it's a distraction I'd like to see gone before the season starts.

If AA goes to trial (which he won't) in June and it doesn't end until November, the trial will last longer than the OJ trial.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:53 PM

If AA goes to trial (which he won't) in June and it doesn't end until November, the trial will last longer than the OJ trial.


The jury selection will probably be the longest part of the trial.
And that might actually be a problem, since he is a local sports hero.

But I suspect that actual testimony will not take more than two or three days.
The cops or agents who discovered the package and made the delivery and the ARRESTS.
The lab tech to certify the drugs are real.
Whatever else they have on him if indeed he was not present for the delivery.
Possibly an expert witness on drug transportation.

That's likely about it. Only a few days.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

The jury selection will probably be the longest part of the trial.
And that might actually be a problem, since he is a local sports hero.

Good points. However, I don't see this going to trial. AA has one of, if not the best defender in NE Ohio. The DA might issue a good deal for AA just so he doesn't have to face his lawyer in court and possibly lose. All this guy has to do is get a plea with no jail time and AA should take it. Going to trial might result in an acquittal, but if he loses, he could be looking at jail time. AA needs to stay out of prison, finish college and move back to PR and live a normal life.
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

Good points. However, I don't see this going to trial. AA has one of, if not the best defender in NE Ohio. The DA might issue a good deal for AA just so he doesn't have to face his lawyer in court and possibly lose. All this guy has to do is get a plea with no jail time and AA should take it. Going to trial might result in an acquittal, but if he loses, he could be looking at jail time. AA needs to stay out of prison, finish college and move back to PR and live a normal life.


There is another angle here.

There is a co defendant. Based on what was published, they may have already made statements implicating each other.
The prosecutor may well decide which one it wants to "get" more, and make a deal with the other. Happens every day.
If that is the case, AA may be in a poor position because giving him the deal might imply favoritism to a local athlete.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:32 PM

And you know that how?
Are you a DEA Agent or a Prosecutor?

The Police made an arrest. The circumstances are unclear.

They have charged him with possessing something that he may have never possessed.

Yes, they could have been Acting in Concert. That looks like the basis of the charges.
But, you need to put evidence beyond a reasonable doubt in front of a jury at trial.

They may or may not be able to do so.



If you've followed KD's reactions to this mess, he has shown no sign of optimism that AA will avoid serious punishment. I assume he knows more re guilt vs. innocence in this case than we do.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

There is another angle here.

There is a co defendant. Based on what was published, they may have already made statements implicating each other.
The prosecutor may well decide which one it wants to "get" more, and make a deal with the other. Happens every day.
If that is the case, AA may be in a poor position because giving him the deal might imply favoritism to a local athlete.

From all I can tell, we are not dealing with hardened criminals here. We are talking about a couple of guys who may or may not have been selling some weed...a substance some states now have legalized. I would be surprised if either of them saw much, if any, jail time.

The angle of the local sports celebrity doesn't do much for me. UofA has a nice following, but AA doesn't have the star power to make him much worth going after. There is no real political value in him. Basically, he was a solid, but chubby, point guard on a MAC team.

My guess is the DA would want this to go away with some headlines, but not overplaying his/her hand. A deal for both will be worked out before June and they will both soon be forgotten.
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