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18 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

We have zero signees and we're rescinding old offers? Not the greatest start

I took the afternoon off work today and was able to meet with coach Arth. I’ll have a story posted sometime this weekend. On the topic of the existing recruits he said he didn’t want to pressure them to commit to a coach and staff that they’d never even met. And likewise he didn’t want to extend an offer to a student athlete that he’d never met. 

 

Zips fans will need to wait for the February signing date to see the 2019 class. It’s just the way it has to be. The new early signing period is really unfair to anyone involved with a coaching change. Whether your coach is fired, or he leaves on his own for a better opportunity.

 

I can say he’s an extremely nice guy. Very gracious and a good listener. I was a big proponent of Luke Getsy being hired, and a lot of the positives I liked in Luke are also in Tom Arth. I think we hired a good one. 

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19 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

I took the afternoon off work today and was able to meet with coach Arth. I’ll have a story posted sometime this weekend. On the topic of the existing recruits he said he didn’t want to pressure them to commit to a coach and staff that they’d never even met. And likewise he didn’t want to extend an offer to a student athlete that he’d never met. 

 

Zips fans will need to wait for the February signing date to see the 2019 class. It’s just the way it has to be. The new early signing period is really unfair to anyone involved with a coaching change. Whether your coach is fired, or he leaves on his own for a better opportunity.

 

I can say he’s an extremely nice guy. Very gracious and a good listener. I was a big proponent of Luke Getsy being hired, and a lot of the positives I liked in Luke are also in Tom Arth. I think we hired a good one. 

Good stuff. I'm not holding the zero signings against him, in fact I think it was the right move to ask kids to wait to meet him. I don't think we'll fill up a class at this point, so I think honoring old offers might have been the right thing to do.. but I get it. Looking forward to the article

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12 hours ago, zippy5 said:

We have zero signees and we're rescinding old offers? Not the greatest start

 

In terms of adding freshman? No. In terms of building a culture and reputation? It's a great start. With how much discussion there is about the sliminess of the recruiting process, word will get around about the breath of fresh air that is Arth's honesty and recruiting approach. That's on a personal level and can go a long way. 

 

From a schematic/system level, I think it's also a smart move. Whomever Bowden recruited to fit his system, they might not fit Arth's. Simply filling a recruiting class for the sake of completion is a bit reckless and can set the program back even further. 

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Glad to hear the positive report, Captain!

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Capt, I'm looking forward to your story.  Your personal assessment along with Arth's recommendations from some pretty impressive football people should calm the "Nation".

 

Zippy, I haven't seen where Arth has rescinded any offers, and Feb. isn't that far off.  I think giving the commits a chance to look around will help us recruit in the future.

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45 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Simply filling a recruiting class for the sake of completion is a bit reckless and can set the program back even further. 

I have to agree. I'd rather have an unused scholarship than commit one for 4 years to a player who will never be good enough to play meaningful minutes in the MAC.

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If the Zips get 2 decent recruits from this class, they are lucky. Most of the top recruits go with early signing day.

 

I just hope all of this did not transpire too late for Zip recruits to find another spot. 3 weeks out from early signing day (Bowden firing) was not a lot of time for recruits. There is no handbook for, "What happens if the coach who recruits me gets fired right before signing day?"

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4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Sorry if I missed this. Did the 4 commits sign? 

No, we didn't have anyone sign.  We won't know of any official signings till the 2nd signing day in February.

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1 hour ago, zipsoutsider said:

If the Zips get 2 decent recruits from this class, they are lucky. Most of the top recruits go with early signing day.

 

Akron only signed four 3-star athletes in early signing last year    - 

 

Kent State, who fired their coach last year, signed eight 3-star athletes on the February signing day -

 

So the Flashes out-recruited the Zips last year - in far less time

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2 hours ago, zzx said:

 

Akron only signed four 3-star athletes in early signing last year    - 

 

Kent State, who fired their coach last year, signed eight 3-star athletes on the February signing day -

 

So the Flashes out-recruited the Zips last year - in far less time

And we still won the Wagon Wheel! 🏈. :rock:

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1 hour ago, mivid12 said:

impressive early signing class...so grateful i gave up my season tix

Don’t know what you expected...but glad you showed how good of a fan you are by giving up your tix...Geez.....

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1 hour ago, ZipsVoice said:

Don’t know what you expected...but glad you showed how good of a fan you are by giving up your tix...Geez.....

That $60 must have been really breaking the bank.

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Would be thrilled if we can somehow take advantage of a lot of the moving parts after Arth has been hired being that we still have a whole class to fill. Miami HC retires -> Brand new Temple HC goes to Miami. Houston fires HC -> poached Holgerson from WVU -> WVU likely to poach Fickell from Cinci. 

 

Late openings after early signing in schools that are in or border OH.

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1 hour ago, LZIp said:

Would be thrilled if we can somehow take advantage of a lot of the moving parts after Arth has been hired being that we still have a whole class to fill. Miami HC retires -> Brand new Temple HC goes to Miami. Houston fires HC -> poached Holgerson from WVU -> WVU likely to poach Fickell from Cinci. 

 

Late openings after early signing in schools that are in or border OH.

Actually it looks like Neal Brown of Troy getting the job. While I'd prefer some turmoil in-state at Cinci, maybe we can take advantage of Troy with the connections the staff should have in that area from UT-C.

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I’m interested to see the Cleveland recruits that have been emphasized so much in the last few weeks. Right or wrong, I might be disappointed to see Tennessee area recruits. 🤷‍♂️

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20 minutes ago, Dr Z said:

I’m interested to see the Cleveland recruits that have been emphasized so much in the last few weeks. Right or wrong, I might be disappointed to see Tennessee area recruits. 🤷‍♂️

Doing my best to keep up on twitter...I've seen a few walk on offers are being extended to St. Eds and Iggy players, a lot of JUCO offers, and not really much in between.

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