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We have scored 3 points in the last three games ?

 

A couple years ago we had Jim Tressel, Jim Dennison, Keith Dambrot and Terry Bowden (and Bobby sometimes) on campus. F%$king moronic to have let them all go.  Imagine where we would be if;

 

Jim Tressel - UoA President

Jim Dennison - Athletic Director (if he would have accepted)

Keith Dambrot - Mens Basketball Coach

Terry Bowden - Football Coach

 

On a side note, if Coach D was our AD, I bet he could have persuaded Paul Winters to come back.

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15 hours ago, NWAkron said:

The soccer team is playing like a champion again

NW - not quite yet.  A 3-0 win over SIU is great, but let's get to the NCAAs again and then see if we're playing like Champions.  Close....but not quite yet!

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3 hours ago, DannyHoke said:

 

One positive way to look at this is that sometimes you truly have to bottom out in order to make the meteoric rise.

 

When putting together a staff your first staff would logically be your best effort, as it would be fresh, new, and full of hope.  How many people are going to jump on board an 0-12 team and put their careers on the line?  What you are criticizing here with the makeup of Arth's staff was literally a harbinger of what we are around to see in terms of player recruitment.  If you cannot get a staff of  qualified people to surround you as a head coach what does that forecast for the future?  Nice guys, sure, but also proving to be unqualified for the task at hand.  Arth has now gone a full calendar year without a win as a head coach. Someone thought it was a good idea to buy him out of his Chattanooga contract to launch this pain train. Who are the people who made these decisions?  That's rhetorical. Last year was a once in a decade opportunity to right the course of the Zip football program, and all signs at the present are that there were some major flaws in the financial and search aspects of this process.

 

It's always darkest before the dawn.

 

Keeping it real, we all know this personnel make-up is not changing any time soon.  We bought out Bowden, and paid Chattanooga to get Arth, the athletics department has no revenue coming in off football and so this is our reality for the next 3-4 years.  Our new President, Gary Miller, shared that "We need a strategic horizon about three to five years where we really make some hard choices, go with our strengths and move the university through the current proximate difficulties," he said., Miller's last two schools did not even have football, so there is no precedent in his past which points to investing more money in football when the rest of the university is struggling with fiscal matters. The University of Akron saw an overall 6.5% decline in enrollment this fall

 

Someone wrote above "Good money after bad", perhaps, but there has never been a steady stream of revenue coming in off Akron Football to look back on and say we are missing out on anything, so it's truly hopeful conjecture to assume that it could ever materialize. The next two home games are on Tuesday nights in November and will have less than 1,000 butts in Infocision Stadium, and a winless 2019 season hanging over the program. That's the reality of what our coaching staff will be armed with when they go out and recruit over the next 3 months. You could have Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, John Heisman and Vince Lombardi on the sideline and that is a pretty tall mountain to scale.

 

All we can do now is hope for the best.  

 

Dr Z - The ESPN crew, yeah, they made the game funny at times. I appreciate your positive take. Every little bit of light helps.

 

As for AJ Watts, it would be nice if his twitter bio correctly listed the name of the school he attends and plays for https://twitter.com/anthonyajwatts?lang=en

 

 

We cheer the Akron Blue and Gold,
We cheer as the colors unfold.

We pledge anew, we're all for you,
As the team goes crashing through,
Fight! Fight!

We cheer the Akron warriors bold,
For a fight that's a sight to behold,
So we stand up, and cheer and shout,
For the Akron Blue and Gold!

 

I was OK with letting Bowden go. Thought he had taken the program as far as he was able . Was hoping bringing in a younger more energetic HC might get the program to the next level. That is being able to CONSISTENTLY compete with the best teams in the MAC. That hasn't happened almost 15 years. I am totally disappointed, as are others here with the apparent lack of progress in the performance on the field. It really gives the appearance that this staff is 'lost' right now. That is very,very troubling considering we are into November.

Whether Arth et. al can produce next season is a huge question. If not, as I and others have been at least suggesting, the football program may be in for a drastic,drastic overhaul. Not just talking about another new coach. With a new President who is painfully aware of the financial issues issues of the University and who is painfully aware that the Athletic Department has been and is a huge drain on those finances there may be sentiment to play at a level that will at least be less expensive to the University. 2020 may be a watershed year for major atheletics at the University.

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1 hour ago, Lee Adams said:

Whether Arth et. al can produce next season is a huge question. If not, as I and others have been at least suggesting, the football program may be in for a drastic,drastic overhaul. Not just talking about another new coach. With a new President who is painfully aware of the financial issues issues of the University and who is painfully aware that the Athletic Department has been and is a huge drain on those finances there may be sentiment to play at a level that will at least be less expensive to the University.

Okay Lee, I'll ask you, because you are a knowledgeable poster here and have been a Zipper for a long time.  You have suggested several times that we might consider dropping down a level for football.  Do you know what or how much Akron would save or stop bleeding if we did as you suggest?  What's an average FCS team like YSU, James Madison, Lehigh football expenditures, vs. Akron's?  And that's operational costs, as we know we can't do anything about the debt on Infocision.   And if we did drop football to an FCS team, what conference do you think Akron would best fit in, trying to preserve our Championship and National level talent in other sports like soccer, track and field, swimming, and would fit the new baseball and WLAX teams?  Your thoughts....

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On 10/27/2019 at 12:34 PM, ZipsVoice said:

Okay Lee, I'll ask you, because you are a knowledgeable poster here and have been a Zipper for a long time.  You have suggested several times that we might consider dropping down a level for football.  Do you know what or how much Akron would save or stop bleeding if we did as you suggest?  What's an average FCS team like YSU, James Madison, Lehigh football expenditures, vs. Akron's?  And that's operational costs, as we know we can't do anything about the debt on Infocision.   And if we did drop football to an FCS team, what conference do you think Akron would best fit in, trying to preserve our Championship and National level talent in other sports like soccer, track and field, swimming, and would fit the new baseball and WLAX teams?  Your thoughts....

Do I know $ figures for what might be saved? No. But, overall expenses would be less at FCS or DII,no? As far as competing in the MAC,gone,obviously. Whether the University would want to continue to try to compete at the DI level in lets say soccer or T and F,probably couldn't. Recruiting would be impossible. Could Akron eventually compete against the likes of YSU et. al on a regular basis? OVC? They were there once. More likely there than what they have been trying to do since what, the early 1990's or earlier. Shoot, if they were still DII I'd love to see them playing teams like IUP,the 'Rock',Clarion,PSAC. etc.

 They could play Ashland (Lee Owens), Sag. Valley,Wayne State.

Info. is the 5000 lb. elephant in the room. A shame. Never was gonna be the jolt people thought. Maybe we can explore the costs a little more. Winning cures all. We need wins ASAP!

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