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[clarkwgriswold]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Was that the same field goal that most likely should have never been due to the no-call on the obvious facemask?

It was the one with 1:29 left.  

[zippy5]

11 hours ago, Spin said:

I doubt anybody would disagree...

 

 

Penn state should be higher 

[Zipmeister]

On 9/13/2022 at 10:25 AM, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

This will be very interesting to see what Campbell does. Prior to Campbell, Iowa State was somewhat like the Nebraska of the Big 12. The Big Ten would be a step up in competition, especially given the Big 12's ever changing landscape over the next few years. It would be similar to going from Toledo to ISU (bigger jump than ISU to Nebraska, but you get the picture). His style fits the Big Ten (big, physical WRs and a solid run game), too. 

 

I also saw PJ Fleck as a candidate for the job. Fleck needs to keep his boat docked in Minnesota, in my opinion. 

 

Only disagreement I have is that Iowa State was "somewhat like the Nebraska of the Big 12". Nebraska was always contesting for the Big 12 championship while Iowa State was contesting with Kansas for doormat of the conference; a contest they frequently won.

[zippy5]

True. Now Iowa State is like how Nebraska was and Nebraska is how Iowa State was

[Zipmeister]

1 hour ago, zippy5 said:

True. Now Iowa State is like how Nebraska was and Nebraska is how Iowa State was

 

Absolutely. With Texas and Oklahoma headed to the SEC, if the Big 12 can just shed Oklahoma State, Baylor, and Kansas State, the Cyclones have a legitimate shot at a Big 12 Championship. 

[catdaddyp]

On a side note, the SEC reportedly told UGA and Tennessee to cancel their home and home series with Texas and Oklahoma. I take that to mean Texas and Oklahoma will most likely be SEC members by the 2023 season.

[kreed5120]

30 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

On a side note, the SEC reportedly told UGA and Tennessee to cancel their home and home series with Texas and Oklahoma. I take that to mean Texas and Oklahoma will most likely be SEC members by the 2023 season.

I'm hearing the 2025 season. They told them to cancel because the 2nd game of the series would be in 2025 or later

[catdaddyp]

33 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

I'm hearing the 2025 season. They told them to cancel because the 2nd game of the series would be in 2025 or later

Edited as I found the tweet. Once these things pick up speed they can move in a hurry.

 

 

Edited September 15, 2022 by catdaddyp

[kreed5120]

On 9/14/2022 at 11:51 AM, jupitertoo2 said:

BG, Miami, Cincy and Ohio U enrollments are up.  OU just announced its freshman class is the largest and highest GPA ever.

 

It's good to see some MAC schools are doing well, but that's not the norm throughout the MAC as a whole. All 3 Michigan schools, Akron, and NIU have all experienced severe enrollment declines to various degrees

 

https://www.mlive.com/business/2022/10/michigans-public-universities-have-lost-45000-students-since-2011-its-about-to-get-worse.html

 

Edit: I didn't realized you posted this last month. I just received the notification today. That's weird

Edited October 20, 2022 by kreed5120

[LoyalZIP]

Our old pal

 

 

 

[zippy5]

We're gonna miss that football IQ

[Section210Zip]

On the "you had one job". Rick Neuheisel said that the CBS team at the end of the Tenn vs Alabama got caught up in the game and didn't remove the cameras on the goal post. They usually do this with a couple min to go. He said that the mistake was a 6 figure mistake. 

[exit322]

4 hours ago, LoyalZIP said:

Our old pal

 

 

 

 

Irons may have a sundial for his inner pass rush clock, but he's not going to do something that dumb.

[GoZips88]

15 hours ago, LoyalZIP said:

Our old pal

 

 

 

 

https://ramblinwreck.com/sports/m-footbl/schedule/

 

Virginia Escapes Tech, 16-9 – Football — Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets (ramblinwreck.com)

 

"Playing without starting quarterback Jeff Sims for the final two-and-a-half quarters of the game, Tech (3-4, 2-2 ACC) was unable to capitalize on the four turnovers its defense created, managing just 140 yards over 10 offensive possessions after Sims left the game, which included six-straight three-and-outs to open the second half.

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Making his Georgia Tech debut, quarterback Zach Gibson completed 10-for-25 passes for 99 yards and was sacked seven times after replacing Sims midway through the second quarter. Sims completed 6-of-11 passes for 47 yards in limited action. He had his streak of 131-consecutive pass attempts without an interception snapped when UVA picked off a tipped ball in the end zone midway through the first quarter."

Edited October 22, 2022 by GoZips88

[Captain Kangaroo]

Pe Gibson - “So, what was going through my mind was that I knew that we had six or seven seconds left, so I knew it was time for one last play and as a I evaded the rush and started moving to my left, I looked downfield and just did not really see a throw at all, I just didn't feel like there was anyone to get it to at the moment, I can't throw the ball 85 yards, 70 yards. I mean, at that point, I just felt like run out of bounds and take the loss. We can go back and look at it and be like, "I should have threw it" and after talking with the coaches, I just should have given somebody a chance and not just given up on the game at that point. Not that that was what I was doing, but just... it is not a good look and I know that, especially people looking from the stands and on tv was watching and like "why is he going out of bounds?" but it is what it is."

[ZippyRulz]

On 9/14/2022 at 11:51 AM, jupitertoo2 said:

BG, Miami, Cincy and Ohio U enrollments are up.  OU just announced its freshman class is the largest and highest GPA ever.

 

BGSU enrollment is down 4% from 2021..

 

 

Edited October 23, 2022 by ZippyRulz

[GP1]

11 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Pe Gibson - “So, what was going through my mind was that I knew that we had six or seven seconds left, so I knew it was time for one last play and as a I evaded the rush and started moving to my left, I looked downfield and just did not really see a throw at all, I just didn't feel like there was anyone to get it to at the moment, I can't throw the ball 85 yards, 70 yards. I mean, at that point, I just felt like run out of bounds and take the loss. We can go back and look at it and be like, "I should have threw it" and after talking with the coaches, I just should have given somebody a chance and not just given up on the game at that point. Not that that was what I was doing, but just... it is not a good look and I know that, especially people looking from the stands and on tv was watching and like "why is he going out of bounds?" but it is what it is."

If you watch the video and then read this quote, it's clear he had no idea what the game situation was. Was this his fault?....mostly. However, any good basketball coach in the last minute of a game sits in the huddle and the first thing he does is tell the players the basics of the game situation: time remaining, timeouts, immediacies.  I know this sounds basic, but they are college kids in the heat of the moment and they have to be reminded of these things. I wonder if he was.

[Zipmeister]

On 10/22/2022 at 11:07 AM, GP1 said:

If you watch the video and then read this quote, it's clear he had no idea what the game situation was. Was this his fault?....mostly. However, any good basketball coach in the last minute of a game sits in the huddle and the first thing he does is tell the players the basics of the game situation: time remaining, timeouts, immediacies.  I know this sounds basic, but they are college kids in the heat of the moment and they have to be reminded of these things. I wonder if he was.

 

I'm not sure the Georgia Tech basketball coach was even at the game. I think his basketball duties kept him away from the game.

[GP1]

5 hours ago, Zipmeister said:

 

I'm not sure the Georgia Tech basketball coach was even at the game. I think his basketball duties kept him away from the game.

Woosh.....

[Section210Zip]

Texas A&M lost to the SC Gamecocks to go to 3-4. I have always considered Jimbo and Ed Orgeron in the same category. Coaches that are not very good but can recruit and wound up at a schools with money and an ability to recruit it's self. They then find a diamond in the rough qb that turns into a baller and the best player in the country.  Stumble their way into a National Championship with snake oil. Then mismanage the program with their big heads. 

 

Jimbo after running FSU into the ground was able to load up with a new lot of snake oil and head west. He pulls off beating Alabama last year. Gets a 10 yr extension. Then this year is 1-3 in SEC play and has a lose to App St. He will probably end up on the SEC Network as an analyst. 

[catdaddyp]

1 hour ago, Section210Zip said:

Texas A&M lost to the SC Gamecocks to go to 3-4. I have always considered Jimbo and Ed Orgeron in the same category. Coaches that are not very good but can recruit and wound up at a schools with money and an ability to recruit it's self. They then find a diamond in the rough qb that turns into a baller and the best player in the country.  Stumble their way into a National Championship with snake oil. Then mismanage the program with their big heads. 

 

Jimbo after running FSU into the ground was able to load up with a new lot of snake oil and head west. He pulls off beating Alabama last year. Gets a 10 yr extension. Then this year is 1-3 in SEC play and has a lose to App St. He will probably end up on the SEC Network as an analyst. 

Agree about both Jimbo and Oregon. 
 

Don’t discount South Carolina though (another turnaround situation). They are currently flying under the radar despite being ranked.  Carolina has an explosive (former 5 star) running back in Marshawn Lloyd who is playing as well as anyone in the country. In a few weeks they will likely be 7-2 going into the Swamp. If they find a way to beat an inconsistent Florida team they will be 8-2, at home, against Tennessee. They’ve come a long way from their slow start to the year.

Edited October 24, 2022 by catdaddyp

[GP1]

3 hours ago, Section210Zip said:

Jimbo after running FSU into the ground was able to load up with a new lot of snake oil and head west. He pulls off beating Alabama last year. Gets a 10 yr extension. Then this year is 1-3 in SEC play and has a lose to App St. He will probably end up on the SEC Network as an analyst. 

Great post. I was listening to Full Ride last week and a gambling guy was on the show. The topic of hiring coaches came up. It was a really funny conversation for me because he has less respect for athletic directors than I do.  Basically, he said he would love to play poker with any athletic director in the NCAA because he would take them to the cleaners. ADs are terrible decision makers because they are playing the game with others money, in almost every case the taxpayers. Imagine how bad of a gambler you would be if the casino gave you $500 to gamble. Nobody who owned a business would fork out the amount of money to guys like Jimbo Fisher, Mel Tucker and the rest of the overpaid hobos coaching out there if it was actually their money.  When are these athletic directors going to call the bluffs of these coaches, take a pass on an overpriced snake oil salesman like Fisher and just hire a good coach for half the money? Heck, I'll move to Lansing, MI tomorrow and do just as crappy of a job as Tucker for half the salary and 25% of the buyout when he gets canned in a couple of years.

[catdaddyp]

5 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Great post. I was listening to Full Ride last week and a gambling guy was on the show. The topic of hiring coaches came up. It was a really funny conversation for me because he has less respect for athletic directors than I do.  Basically, he said he would love to play poker with any athletic director in the NCAA because he would take them to the cleaners. ADs are terrible decision makers because they are playing the game with others money, in almost every case the taxpayers. Imagine how bad of a gambler you would be if the casino gave you $500 to gamble. Nobody who owned a business would fork out the amount of money to guys like Jimbo Fisher, Mel Tucker and the rest of the overpaid hobos coaching out there if it was actually their money.  When are these athletic directors going to call the bluffs of these coaches, take a pass on an overpriced snake oil salesman like Fisher and just hire a good coach for half the money? Heck, I'll move to Lansing, MI tomorrow and do just as crappy of a job as Tucker for half the salary and 25% of the buyout when he gets canned in a couple of years.

Depending on the school, sometimes the boosters and board have as much control, or more, over the hire/fire. I can tell you Ray Tanner was heavily pressured (some claim told) to hire Shane Beamer at South Carolina. Tanner also wanted to fire basketball coach Frank Martin a year ago and was flat out shut down by the board of trustees. 

[GP1]

39 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

Depending on the school, sometimes the boosters and board have as much control, or more, over the hire/fire. I can tell you Ray Tanner was heavily pressured (some claim told) to hire Shane Beamer at South Carolina. Tanner also wanted to fire basketball coach Frank Martin a year ago and was flat out shut down by the board of trustees. 

Boosters have control because the ADs are stupid weaklings.

 

Beamer is the right guy at the right price ($2.75 million/year). USC is a 7-8 win team annually. That's their history with the exception of a few great years under the old ball coach.

 

The BOT was right about Martin. Fire him and who are you going to get?  It's a horrible basketball school with one good year in recent memory. 

[catdaddyp]

10 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Boosters have control because the ADs are stupid weaklings.

 

Beamer is the right guy at the right price ($2.75 million/year). USC is a 7-8 win team annually. That's their history with the exception of a few great years under the old ball coach.

 

The BOT was right about Martin. Fire him and who are you going to get?  It's a horrible basketball school with one good year in recent memory. 

Regardless of my feelings on the situation I was just using Carolina as an example as I have inside sources there. Martin ultimately got fired this offseason and then quickly landed with UMASS. The BOT basically gave Martin one more year and then gave way to the AD. 

Edited October 24, 2022 by catdaddyp