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I disagree that this is a bad move, I think it is pretty smart actually.
1. Notre Dame is struggling because of bad coaching and having a higher standard for admission that most schools which limits the athletes you can recruit. (Anyone can get into an SEC school)
2. BYU wants to get into a BCS conference....its a lot easier if you A. don't have to pay millions for leaving the conference. And B. The conference that takes BYU won't look like a bully or poacher in the eyes of the media.
3. They can make their own schedule, if they are smart the will schedule like Boise State to hard games and the rest mid-level to bottom feeders. It all about the number of wins. Don't believe me watch and see what happens if Boise beats VT and goes undefeated and Miami who has arguably the toughest schedule in college football goes 10-2 guess who going to the better bowl game.
4. By being independent you can schedule all to play teams all over the country to get more national exposure. BYU wants to get back to the days of Steve Young and Jim McMahon, and Ty Detmer.
Notre Dame only has to finish in the top 8 and the are in a BCS game. Look at their schedule if they win 9 games their in. BYU has to win 7 games to go bowling thats it. I guarantee that a 8 win BYU goes bowling before any 9 win MAC, WAC, Sun Belt, or Conference USA team.
Its what I don't like about college football, perception you have to look good not necessarily be good. Look at Cincinnati last year, they had no business playing Florida but ya know what the had the W's in the win column and receive millions of dollars and got national exposure and can get some better recruits because of it.
If Akron was independent I would like to see a schedule where we play teams like.....
Northwestern
Rutgers
Louisville
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Miami of Ohio
Syracuse
Indiana
Illinois
Montana St (or some top 15 FCS team)
Army
Navy
Wake Forest
Maryland
Duke
Iowa State
Baylor
Minnesota
Anyone in Conference USA
Anyone in the Sun Belt
And 2 "money" games
If we could schedule like that and win 7-9 games we would go bowling to. 7 wins in the MAC and you could be sitting at home, unless you knock of a BCS team somewhere in those 7 wins.
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One thing that always seems to amaze me.....every year it seems like multiple sports media predict Can't going 500 or better and every year they go 500 or worse, more often worse. I never put much stock into what preseason poll say.
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Doesn't matter if Akron is the #1 TV market, the Akron market is dominated by Buckeye fans, same with Cinci don't let bearcat fans fool you.
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Iowa St wasn't going bowling staying in the Big12, last year was one of the better years. Side note LOL I know Turner Gill is probably thinking Damnit I move to a BCS school, and now the school may move out of the BCS. *speculating Kansas goes to the Mountain West*
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Akron will lose big in this bargain. Akron is one of the sorta kinda haves/nots and is about to become one of the major HAVE-NOTS in college football. Teams like most in the MAC are about to become way, way outside the mega conferences that will start to form in the coming weeks and months. There is already marginal interest paid to mid-major sports, but imagine how yawn-worthy the MAC will be once the B10, PAC-10 and others go mega. I just cannot see any way that any of this nonsense will be good in any way for this program. Years from now we'll be lamenting the fact that UA built the Info and had no idea what a gigantic waste of time and money it will have been.
Please, please let me be WAY off base, but MAC (and UA) football is about to become puny and irrelevant. Get ready to vomit very soon when our OSWho buddies are chattering about the awesome teams that their most awesome conference added to become one of the megas.
I think you are spot on. It's hard to believe the MAC could be any more irrelevant than it already is, but just when you think things can't get any worse, they do. The only way to salvage any dignity for the MAC is for it to drop to I-AA and have a team competing for a championship every year. The Zips could be that team. Instead, we are happy to get our asses kicked by BCS schools three times a year and play in a crappy conference.
If realignment does not happen AND the NCAA does not accept the Great GP1's proposal of separating D-1A, the top 30 teams should leave the NCAA and start their own league. There is already an NAIA, why not another type of league? This could be a good thing for college sports as the destruction of the NCAA would be a good thing and this would destroy the NCAA.
Yep this is nothing but bad for us, with conferences going mega, out of conference games will practically be unnecessary, and if a school does decide to play an OCC you can guarantee that they will be looking for cupcakes.
*insert the beating of a dead horse* And as far as which conference is better Conference USA or the MAC, this will be answered shortly, lets see which schools will get plucked from their affliations...Toledo or Memphis, BGSU or Southern Miss, Akron or SMU, East Carolina or Central Michigan, Houston or Buffalo, Central Florida or Can't, Marshall or Miami of Ohio, Tulsa or Eastern Michigan.....you get my drift.
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Dang, our conference had like 5 out of 10, we keep some great company.
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I hope that doesn't happen a merger with the Sunbelt, people might think we were 1AA for sure.
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We have 13 and only need 3, the only possible candidates I see are Army, Navy, Western Kentucky, Marshall, Middle Tenn.
The Way I see it
Pac-16
1. USC
2.UCLA
3.Okla.
4.Okla. St
5.Colorado
6.Wash.
7.Wash. St
8.Oregon
9.Oregon St
10.Arizona
11.Arizona st
12.Cal
13.Texas
14.Texas Tech
15.Texas A&M
16.Stanford
Big-16
1. OSU
2.Michigan
3.Penn
4.Wisconsin
5.Nebraska
6.Notre Dame
7.Mizzo
8.Ill
9.Indiana
10.Iowa
11.Minn
12.Northwestern
13.Syracuse
14.Rutgers
15.Michigan St
16.Purdue
SEC-16
1. Alabama
2.Arkansas
3.Auburn
4.Florida
5.Florida St
6.Miami
7.Georgia
8.Georgia Tech
9.Clemson
10.Kentucky
11.LSU
12.Miss
13.Miss St
14.South Carolina
15.Tenn
16.Vanderbilt
Western Mountain-16
1.Air Force
2.Boise St
3.Idaho
4.BYU
5.New Mex
6.New Mex. St
7.Utah
8.Utah St
9.Wyoming
10.Fresno
11.Hawaii
12.UNLV
13.Nevada
14.Colorado St
15.San Deigo st
16.San Jose St
Conference USA -16
1.Kansas
2.Kansas St
3.Baylor
4.UTEP
5.TCU
6.Houston
7.Rice
8.North Tex
9.SMU
10.Tulane
11.Tulsa
12.UAB
13.Troy
14. Iowa St
15. Marshall
16.Middle Tenn
ACC-16
1. Boston C
2.Duke
3.Maryland
4.North Carolina
5.North Carolina St
6.East Carolina
7.Virgina
8.Virgina tech
9.Wake Forest
10.West Virgina
11.Louisville
12.Central Florida
13.South Florida
14.Memphis
15.Pitt
16.Uconn
MAC-16
1. Akron
2. Ball State
3.BGSU
4.Buffalo
5.Central
6.Eastern
7.Western
8.Can't
9.Miami
10.Northern Ill
11.Ohio
12.Temple
13.Toledo
14.Western Kentucky - closer to teams geographically so less expensive to travel
15.Army - will they go back to Conference USA?
16.Navy - need a home
*YSU don't be scared be a big boy
Sun Belt-16
1. Ark St
2.FIU
3.Florida Atlantic
4.Louis-Laf
5.Louis-Mon
6.North Texas
7.Troy
8.University of Southern Georgia (moving to D1 in next 2 years)
9.Middle Tenn
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.
Not sure where they will go?
These 3 left Conference USA would they go back?)
Cinci
Army
Louisiana Tech - Maybe Sunbelt?
Middle Tenn - closer to teams geographically so less expensive to travel if join MAC
Does anyone really want to join the MAC? I think this is the beginning of a playoff. 8 sixteen team conferences, conference champs in a playoff, the rest in a bowl game.
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You guys remind me of something...
His momma called him Cassius, I'm gonna call him Cassius.
hahahaha
Give a hand to my band, Sexual Chocolate.
Big Ten (11) to potentially add more than one team
That could open a few spots for Akron to move on up.
Just to play devils advocate could expansion of the Big10 be a bad thing for Akron...Im just saying we seem to have the worst luck sometimes. Let say the Big10 expanse with 3 or 5 teams, they raid the Big East leaving the conference with about 5 teams.....Conference USA and The MAC have 12 and 13 teams respectively. What if CUSA and the MAC stand their ground and and BIG East becomes defunct (It has happened before...see Big West). Now we are playing with West Virginia, UConn in our Conference, Cincinnati, Louisville, South Florida go BACK to Conference USA, etc. We could be looking at a situation that would probably push us down in the final conference standings! Any thoughts?
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I gotta agree with this statement!!! But I will say this I coach football ages 5-8 yes it is tackle at that age. As a coach you also have to know your players, now most of my players I can't even raise my voice at cause they will cry instantly, I can't explain it, but the kids that I can "yell at" when they aren't playing well, are by far the best players. Not that's not to say that will change, and I do yell or get loud very little becaue this is a new generation of kids, kids raised by t.v. and xbox. You can't run them to much cause of heat, hell some of these 7 and 8 year olds already have personal trainers!! Get this the kid told me since he has a trainer he doesn't have to run with the team, I called his dad over and said right in front of both of them he is either on this team or he isn't if he is he doesn't everything he teammates does period.
Sweetheart you don't understand the inside world of football and never will, nor a boy's development into a man, and that's not your fault, but it was the furthest thing from abuse. Abuse is something that leaves an individual scarred. I was far from scarred from that experience, in fact, it inspired me to one of the greatest moments in my athletic career. Far from being scarred, I'm thankful to my coach for what he did.
uh, yeah. That's an abusive coach.Growing up to be a woman isn't such a bad thing either.My coach came in the lockerroom, ripped me a new one in front of the entire team, and shoved me...no... LAUNCHED ME.... into a locker with both hands. Did it hurt me? Hell no it didn't, I had pads on. Did I go cry to my daddy about it? Hell no, my dad would've said "Is that all he did?" after the way I played that half. How did I respond? I got PISSED AS HELL and went out and had one of the best halfs of football I ever had in my playing career and helped my team win the game. Was that coach abusive? No he wasn't, he saw how I wasn't playing anywhere close to my potential, that I was letting my team down, and he got my attention in the most sure way he could. The man is still very close to me and like a 2nd father.
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Very Valid Points...i agree indeed.Just a couple of comments...1) Texas has indeed become notorious for getting nearly all of their players from Texas. But, that doesn't seem to be the typical route when looking at the top programs. 2) Speed doesn't come from the South. Teams in the South recruit speed. And the most noticable difference to me might be on the defensive side of the ball. Even at the interior positions. Go look at the championship game 3 years ago between OSWho and Florida, and the way Florida's defensive linemen ran around OSWho's front line, for a good example of this. 3) I'm sure weather can be a factor to plenty of high school football players being recruited. But, that doesn't always mean that the South has a clear advantage. Remember, those guys have to go through August workouts in 100+ degree weather with high humidity. 4) I think style of play is a big issue right now as well. The teams from the South just appear to be staying ahead of the curve right now in terms putting things into action on the field that will win championships. For instance, this year the only two "cold weather" teams with a shot at playing in the national title game as the season drew to a close were Cincinnati and Boise State. Does anyone really believe that either of them could have legitimately competed against either Florida, Alabama, or Texas for a national championship? -
And Alabama, Florida, and Texas will all finish above Ohio State, and Penn State, and Cincinnati. in your most recent poll.This topic got me to spend about 10 minutes on a totally unscientific project. I looked at the rosters for Alabama and Texas to see how many players were from cold weather states. I did the same for Penn State and Ohio State, except I was looking for players from warm weather states. Like I said, this was a 10 minute project so I may be off a bit on the numbers, but this is what I found. Alabama has only 2 players on their roster from cold weather states. Texas has 3 players from cold weather states. Amazingly, to me anyway, all but 5 players on the Texas roster are from Texas. They pretty much have the luxury of recruiting exclusively from Texas. High school football in Texas must be as good as they say.Penn State has 10 players from warm weather states. It looks like they go to Texas for their out-of-region recruting. Ohio State has 12 players from warm weather states. Ohio State goes to Florida for its out-of-region recruiting.Also, a quick check of the University of Florida roster shows 7 players from cold weather states, but mostly Florida and Georgia players. -
Hmm...I find it interesting you chose this method to support your arguement. I think your comparing apples to oranges. I think a fair approach would be to compare top 40 schools in a geographic area collectively, now population gives the warm states some advantage but take a look for example....Warm States top 40 programsFlorida = Florida, Florida St, Miami, and South FloridaTexas = Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Texas A&M, Houston, and very soon SMUAlabama= Alabama, AuburnCalifornia = USC, Cal, UCLA, StanfordGeorgia = Georgia, Georgia TechSouth Carolina = South Carolina, ClemsonKentucky = Kentucky, LouisvilleLouiana = LSU, vs.Cold States top 40 programs:Ohio= OSU, Cinci (and a bunch of below 40 ranking schools)Michigan = Michigan, Michigan St, Central MichiganPenn = Penn State, PittWest Virginia = West Virginia, MarshallWisconsinVirginia = Virginia, Virginia TechKentucky = Kentucky, LouisvilleAnswer these questions and get back with me....How many "southern or warm weather" schools have players from Ohio, Michigan, Wisonsin, or New York, etc.?How many cold rust belt schools have players from warm weather states like Texas, Cali, and Florida? How many kids from Akron go to any middle to lower level D1 southern school like Old Miss, Vanderbuilt, FIU, or Alabama Birmingham?How many MAC schools have a kid on their roster from Florida?How many Sun Belt/Conference USA have kids from our "recuiting hotbeds of Ohio, and Penn? As a collective group the south has better teams and they recruit mostly in their own backyards. IMO this is where your arguement starts to falls apart. Also alot of the top Northern schools have no competition in their state for recruits or very little, ie Boise, Iowa, Mizzouri, Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Penn. St, and Nebraska. An easy way to visualize would be to draw a line through the middle of the country and see which side as more good quality football teams.http://tjsportsource.tripod.com/fb_05_location_map.gif
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Oops if forgot about that other bowl, so we will be what 1 - 4.Guys, the MAC has five bowl teams so I guarantee the conference won't be 1-3. We still have the GMAC (CMU vs. Troy) and the International Bowl (NIU vs. South Florida) in Toronto. -
Looks like 1-3 in the bowls for the MAC. Come on Central you can do it!! Give the conference their lone bowl victory.
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Damn Idaho scores late....and wins....damn the MAC is sad this year.
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Curious what rules are you referring to?
^^This is a very moot factor at best.What we take for granted or simply do not know is that in the southern states, their Track Seasons start far earlier than up North. Also, State rules are more strict in the north regarding Track & Field than in the south. If you think this has no impact, just check the state records for sprints in northern states vs. the south. It affects the overall speed and muscle-conditioning which may give a slight, but certain advantage to conferences like the SEC.Compounded by the fact that the BigTen's 'game' hasn't evolved as fast as other conferences.It's just like the Auto Industry - The domestics didn't evolve until they were the laughing stock and they lost market-share. They currently - realistically make some of the best cars (i.e. Ford & GM, not Chrysler), but still are perceived as inferior.The Midwest still has some of the best athletes, but we're still behind in evolving our game to match the new benchmarks (i.e. SEC, Big 12 South). This doesn't mean we can't compete. Let's face it, Alabama plays 'Big 10' football and smashed Florida which plays purely 'SEC' football.So it's not like it can't be done.It's all about scheme and strategy. It would go a long way if the OHSAA would lax the rules.I know nobody wants to believe it, but high school boys decisions are influenced in part by girls...I know that's hard to believe. When they can see girls in Florida in January in shorts and t-shirts, it makes for a lot better visual than girls in Columbus in parkas. -
What you deserve and what you get are two different things. Even though I agree with you it probably won't happen. I hope I am wrong.
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Maybe we should add Villanova they beat the first place team in the conference?? Seriously has this conference beat 1 relevant team all year?
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I see a conference with a "FEW" talented players, and no fan support. Hell some high schools have as many fans show up as us. Don't believe me I see a conference that was run by Marshall and now that same team is a middle of the pack/ bottom feeder of another so so conferenceAn undefeated Temple team that was kicked out of the Big East less than 5 years ago and is now undefeated in conference play.Can't think of any big games this conference has won. Why am I watching again? Turns channel....Cinci doing good, OSU doing good, Mount Union doing good, the rest are doing not so good.....and don't say OU, Can't, or BG because there records are inflated cause they beat a bunch of bad teams!So what do I see a crappy conference that needs to be revamped or go away.
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Just curious how some of you feel, Colin Cowherd an ESPN analysts, talked about this very topic and he felt that there is a difference between going for it on your own 5 or your opponents 5. Which I am sure most of you feel. He says statistics can be misleading due to field position. I say hogwash, If i have Jerome Bettis as a fullback and statistics say 85% of the time I can get 2 yards, the stat is the stat doesn't' matter if I am trying to get 2 yards on grass, turf, dirt, my 5 or your 5, 2 yards is 2 yards. I bet Pete Carrol feel the same way I do after watching the way he coached against the Buckeyes. I had a high school coach who loved the wing T to death!! He never wanted to pass despite having one of the best recievers in the state. I asked him why he was so reluctant to pass, you know what his answer was. When you pass 3 things can happen and 2 of them are bad, interception, incomplete, or it is complete. When running the ball it is either positive yards or negative yards. My rebuttal was what about a fumble?! He laughed and said you won't run the ball for me fumbling and you could fumble after the catch so make that 3 bad and 1 positive.No let me say this I probably would have punted as well but it is obvious he had no faith in his defense. Peyton could easily drive 70 yards with 2 minutes on the clock and a time out. If he gets that 2 yards, he runs the clock out and wins.
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We are always talking about a blue print to follow as far as moving up to the Big East.....Cincinnati 1949-52 The Bearcats were champions of the Mid-American Conference three times while earning a 33-10-1 record under coach Sid Gillman.
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People always underestimate the power of confidence, When you go into a game thinking lets just keep it respectable or close...you get blown out. When you go into a game thinking this is my chance to show the country what I got, you end up beating teams like NCState and Syracuse. Remember Zips your D1 athletes just like them.You're reminding me of the OSU game where we trailed 3-2 at the half. I don't think the coaches had a strategy to win that game, the offense was just so conservative it was too safe. But now I think our coaches and our team has come a long way since that game. I think our offense will do what it takes to put up points and surprise PSU and their fans. The Zippers can certainly win this game.Confidence is contagious. The players reading this (I know you do), know that we as fans are confident in you. I know that you have the ability to beat Penn State or any team in the country if you play to the best of your abilities. Anybody on the team who thinks other wise is a loser with a loser attitude. Don't just go out there to try to win, go out there to actually win. I know you can do it, but I can't play the game for you. -
I love the graphite helmet, I love the grey pants and white jerseys,.....call me crazy too cause I think those unis are awesome! Every combination, I would love to see what they could do with a zips logo. I think a zipper going down the center instead of a traditional stripe would be sick especially if it was a real shinny metallic zipper.
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Wow I really wasn't expecting that ranking....I mean I expect us to be on the list but....damn.