More playing time for the talented players.......

[timmyboy]

After sitting in the stands watching the game against OU. Somthing struck me and i was just curious how others felt about it. We have aplayer who was ranked as the 65th best player IN THE COUNTRY, but he doesnt get any playing time. I was able to see him in high school and he was a monster...... and he is bigger,faster and stronger now. He had 2 carries in the game against indiana, for 32 yards! This kid is a very good football player and he should be on the field somewhere. Below is a break down of the season rushing stats for the team.Matt Rodgers has 40 carries for 226 yards (minus 70 yards in loss's, for a total of 156yards) he has an average of 3.9 yards per carry with a long run of 28 yards.Joe Tuzze has 32 carries for 153 yards (minus 3 yards in loss's, for a total of 150 yards) He has an average of 4.7 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.Alex Allen has 30 carries for 85 yards (minus 14 yards in loss's, for a total of 71 yards) He has an average of 2.4 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards.Dale Martin had 6 carries for 64 yards. He has an average of 10.7 yards per carry witha long run of 22 yards. (has not lost any yards)Norman Shuford has 28 carries for 69 yards (minus 12 yards in loss's, for a total of 57 yards) He has an average of 2.0 yards per carry witha long run of 10 yards.Nate Burney has 11 carries for 42 yards. he has an average of 3.8 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards (has not lost any yards)Devoe Torrence has 9 carries for 46 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 39 yards) he has an average of 4.3 yards per carry with a long run of 31 yards.Patrick Nicely has 3 carries for 25 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 18 yards) he has an average of 6.0 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.If we go by the stats, Torrence is one of the best rushers we have on the team, but yet he doesnt play. Division 1................. you have to play the best talent that you have, and devoe is the best talent we have on our team!

[infofan]

After sitting in the stands watching the game against OU. Somthing struck me and i was just curious how others felt about it. We have aplayer who was ranked as the 65th best player IN THE COUNTRY, but he doesnt get any playing time. I was able to see him in high school and he was a monster...... and he is bigger,faster and stronger now. He had 2 carries in the game against indiana, for 32 yards! This kid is a very good football player and he should be on the field somewhere. Below is a break down of the season rushing stats for the team.Matt Rodgers has 40 carries for 226 yards (minus 70 yards in loss's, for a total of 156yards) he has an average of 3.9 yards per carry with a long run of 28 yards.Joe Tuzze has 32 carries for 153 yards (minus 3 yards in loss's, for a total of 150 yards) He has an average of 4.7 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.Alex Allen has 30 carries for 85 yards (minus 14 yards in loss's, for a total of 71 yards) He has an average of 2.4 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards.Dale Martin had 6 carries for 64 yards. He has an average of 10.7 yards per carry witha long run of 22 yards. (has not lost any yards)Norman Shuford has 28 carries for 69 yards (minus 12 yards in loss's, for a total of 57 yards) He has an average of 2.0 yards per carry witha long run of 10 yards.Nate Burney has 11 carries for 42 yards. he has an average of 3.8 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards (has not lost any yards)Devoe Torrence has 9 carries for 46 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 39 yards) he has an average of 4.3 yards per carry with a long run of 31 yards.Patrick Nicely has 3 carries for 25 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 18 yards) he has an average of 6.0 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.If we go by the stats, Torrence is one of the best rushers we have on the team, but yet he doesnt play. Division 1................. you have to play the best talent that you have, and devoe is the best talent we have on our team!

Im convinced that we NEED a coaching change. That being said, JD is still the head coach and deserves repect from his players. Following the Indiana game coach Brookhart was asked about our inability to rush the ball by Joe Dunn. He said something to the effect of Joe Tuzzi gave it 100% but Devoe chose to ignore the play call and he tried to bounce it outside every time he rushed. Hes a very talented kid but he obviously has no discipline. If the play is called off tackle or up the middle thats where you go! Failure to listen to the coaching staff is not and should not be rewarded with increased playing time. We gave Devoe a 2nd chance when few schools would touch him and Im a supporter of his but the kid has to respect his coaches!

[timmyboy]

After sitting in the stands watching the game against OU. Somthing struck me and i was just curious how others felt about it. We have aplayer who was ranked as the 65th best player IN THE COUNTRY, but he doesnt get any playing time. I was able to see him in high school and he was a monster...... and he is bigger,faster and stronger now. He had 2 carries in the game against indiana, for 32 yards! This kid is a very good football player and he should be on the field somewhere. Below is a break down of the season rushing stats for the team.Matt Rodgers has 40 carries for 226 yards (minus 70 yards in loss's, for a total of 156yards) he has an average of 3.9 yards per carry with a long run of 28 yards.Joe Tuzze has 32 carries for 153 yards (minus 3 yards in loss's, for a total of 150 yards) He has an average of 4.7 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.Alex Allen has 30 carries for 85 yards (minus 14 yards in loss's, for a total of 71 yards) He has an average of 2.4 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards.Dale Martin had 6 carries for 64 yards. He has an average of 10.7 yards per carry witha long run of 22 yards. (has not lost any yards)Norman Shuford has 28 carries for 69 yards (minus 12 yards in loss's, for a total of 57 yards) He has an average of 2.0 yards per carry witha long run of 10 yards.Nate Burney has 11 carries for 42 yards. he has an average of 3.8 yards per carry with a long run of 13 yards (has not lost any yards)Devoe Torrence has 9 carries for 46 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 39 yards) he has an average of 4.3 yards per carry with a long run of 31 yards.Patrick Nicely has 3 carries for 25 yards (minus 7 yards in loss's, for a total of 18 yards) he has an average of 6.0 yards per carry with a long run of 16 yards.If we go by the stats, Torrence is one of the best rushers we have on the team, but yet he doesnt play. Division 1................. you have to play the best talent that you have, and devoe is the best talent we have on our team!

Im convinced that we NEED a coaching change. That being said, JD is still the head coach and deserves repect from his players. Following the Indiana game coach Brookhart was asked about our inability to rush the ball by Joe Dunn. He said something to the effect of Joe Tuzzi gave it 100% but Devoe chose to ignore the play call and he tried to bounce it outside every time he rushed. Hes a very talented kid but he obviously has no discipline. If the play is called off tackle or up the middle thats where you go! Failure to listen to the coaching staff is not and should not be rewarded with increased playing time. We gave Devoe a 2nd chance when few schools would touch him and Im a supporter of his but the kid has to respect his coaches!

but did he bounce it outside because there was no hole to run into. maybe if some of our other backs would bounce it outside when the hole just isnt there, we would have more rushing yards per player. I seen ALOT of times last night that there simply were no holes there, but the RB still tried to punch it thrrough that gap..............bottom line is we have to get into the endzone. If the line doesnt create the hole... its up to the player to create.

[ksu sucks]

Im convinced that we NEED a coaching change. That being said, JD is still the head coach and deserves repect from his players. Following the Indiana game coach Brookhart was asked about our inability to rush the ball by Joe Dunn. He said something to the effect of Joe Tuzzi gave it 100% but Devoe chose to ignore the play call and he tried to bounce it outside every time he rushed. Hes a very talented kid but he obviously has no discipline. If the play is called off tackle or up the middle thats where you go! Failure to listen to the coaching staff is not and should not be rewarded with increased playing time. We gave Devoe a 2nd chance when few schools would touch him and Im a supporter of his but the kid has to respect his coaches!

Wait...so after running two plays with Torrence they decided he should be thrown towards the back of the depth chart? As timmyboy mentioned, couldn't it have to do with reading the defense?Sorry, I just seem to question every move our coaching staff makes since "The Nicely Revelation".

[bUAkronG]

I agree with you timmy and my inside source doesn't understand either why DeVoe gets no PT. There's a reason he was an OSU commit.

[Buckzip]

Im convinced that we NEED a coaching change. That being said, JD is still the head coach and deserves repect from his players. Following the Indiana game coach Brookhart was asked about our inability to rush the ball by Joe Dunn. He said something to the effect of Joe Tuzzi gave it 100% but Devoe chose to ignore the play call and he tried to bounce it outside every time he rushed. Hes a very talented kid but he obviously has no discipline. If the play is called off tackle or up the middle thats where you go! Failure to listen to the coaching staff is not and should not be rewarded with increased playing time. We gave Devoe a 2nd chance when few schools would touch him and Im a supporter of his but the kid has to respect his coaches!

Wait...so after running two plays with Torrence they decided he should be thrown towards the back of the depth chart? As timmyboy mentioned, couldn't it have to do with reading the defense?Sorry, I just seem to question every move our coaching staff makes since "The Nicely Revelation".

Torrence is probably one of the guys that will be happy with a new coaching staff.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Count me as another poster who would love to see what DeVoe can do with some repetitions. I've been very pleased with Tuzze's toughness but he's a blocker, a fullback. I think I'd really like to see some 2 back formations with Tuzze blocking for DeVoe. I really believe that would provide our best shot in the running game. I will also agree that after being incensed after the last game that we were forced to wait until the season was lost in order to see Nicely play when he is clearly the best QB on the team, redshirt or not, I do NOT trust this coaching staff to evaluate talent, nor to put that talent in the best situations to win.GO ZIPS!STZ

[ZIPFB#1]

I couldn't vote because I didn't like any of your choices. I don't feel the season is over. I really don't know who the best running back is. I have yet to see the running game explode. Torrence started the CMU game. Wasn't that impressed. He also ran against the 2nd or 3rd string of Indiana, when he got some yardage. There has to be a reason he doesn't get much playing time..Tuzze looks good at various times. Hopefully soon someone will step up and show how badly they want the position!

[Dave in Green]

Statistical analysis normally requires throwing out everyone's lowest and highest numbers as outliers, and averaging the rest. Throw out Torrence's single 31-yard run as a statistical outlier, and his average becomes way less than stellar. Doesn't mean he might not be potentially the best RB on the team. But the stats to date certainly don't support that.