Guest Guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 I heard today that part of the non-conference schedule will include Mount Union, Hampton, Oakland, Wright State and Dayton. Thoughts on these and any other teams that are scheduled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_Miss_You_Trey_71603 Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Do you know if the Dayton game will be in Dayton or in Akron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 It is at Dayton. No "Home and Home Series." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Nobody excites me except Dayton. Too bad we can't get a 2 for 1 with them. This should still leave 3 or 4 more non conference games. I hope the Zips beef up the schedule. Cleveland State is a nice rivalry. I assume that we will play them again as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Dayton shouldn't be a 2 for 1 .. or an 0 for 1. I think they should be playing us 1 for 1. Tells me that they don't want to "risk" playing in the JAR. There's some belief in the college basketball world that the A10 is some how a vastly superior league to the MAC. While there has been a bit more strength at the top of the A10 of late in tourney runs, I view the conferences on an reasonably level plane. The inclusion of Temple makes the media fall all over themselves when it comes to the A10. The sheer number of A10 games broadcast on TV in these parts never ceases to piss me off when I know there's a BG / UT or Miami / OU game that could be on. I think a MAC - A10 challenge would surprise a lot of people. And I think the Zips should be playing the likes of Dayton & Xavier more than the Duquesne's of the world. One things for sure: After JWood & the rest of KD's crew get out of UD arena with a win, the Flyers probably won't have anything to do with the Zips again. I encourage anyone that can make it to that game to go. Dayton is a perferct example of what the Zips SHOULD be in Akron. It's the biggest game in town & the population fights for seats to be there. Great arena and game atmosphere also. I think the games listed are OK for now. You pretty much have to assume the Mount Union game is an exhibition (a la the Wooster games of late). That leaves a decent slate of solid low to mid major clubs. None terribly excite me, but I figure we'll pick up one more major opponent to go with them. CSU is a must have game no matter what. Next to Can't State, I think it's a fun rivalry to have & think we should kick their asses a few times while they suck just to stoke the fire a bit. The season is made or broken in conference. The conference is good enough that the non-conference schedule isn't so crucial. This being KD's first year, I don't mind a somewhat soft pre-season if it means it gets the team on the same page for a run at the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 ZIP WATCHER ... outstanding post. I am in near complete agreement with you. I especially rankle at the idea of playing a one game at their house game with anybody let alone a mere A-10 team. Like you, I don't think the A-10 would fair well in a battle of the two conferences. A few years ago the Zips scheduled Rhode Island in a home-n-home series. Those same years had a home-n-home with Wyoming and a 2-for-1 with Purdue. I question the wisdom of even scheduling a one game series on the road against an A-10 team. The Zips still have to "pay" with a road game for last year's "bracket buster" game. If the road game is Dayton on at least regional TV as part of the "bracket buster", then and only then will it not stick in my craw. If the Dayton game is a stand alone it sends a terrible message about the sorry state of Zips basketball. I have long lamented the poor job of scheduling football opponents. Where the Zips always opt for taking the money for getting their brains beat out on the road as opposed to actually having any comprehension about how to improve attendance. Football (and basketball) attendance is improved for the season with early wins against name recognized teams AT HOME. That doesn't mean beating Ohio State at home. It means beating some schlock ACC, Pig Ten, SEC school at home. Most of the other MAC schools have long since figured out how to get home games with the likes of these schools while the Zips go on the road two or three times for the money and the losses and the poor resulting attendance. You want a reason to fault the AD or coaches here it is. Piss poor scheduling and the forever excuses of why we just can't. As much as I like a number of former coaches as people it was the scheduling philosophy that rankles me even more than pathetic defense (in both football and basketball). Far too often past coaches have been pleased just to play Ohio State (in football) or North Carolina (in basketball) as opposed to having an actual attack plan to BEAT that opponent given the opportunity. Never play anybody just for the money or the opprotunity. Every game should be an opportunity to win. This far more than anything else hacks me about Akron. Some MAC schools (BG, Toledo, Miami, Marshall) make very effort to beat an opponent given the opportunity. Akron traditionally plays like tha patsy they were scheduled to be. This is why Marshall may well upset the Suckeyes this fall in football while the Zips come home from Happy Valley with their tails betwen their legs. Until I see other wise I expect the same lousy performance and excuses from both Brookhart and Dambrot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatFink Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 The Zips have a tenative and as of yet unreleased schedule completed for 2004-05. The season opens at DRAKE for payback of last year's "bracket buster". Home games include Mount Union (can't believe this), HAMPTON, CLEVELAND STATE, and OAKLAND. Road games also include DAYTON, DUQUESNE, and WRIGHT STATE. Cross division games include at NORTHERN ILLINOIS, at TOLEDO, at WESTERN MICHIGAN, at BOWLING GREEN, and home to EASTERN MICHIGAN, CENTRAL MICHIGAN, BALL STATE, and TOLEDO. Since the Zips face TOLEDO both home and away is that an indication of division realignment? Saved the best news for last. The Zips are HOME for the ESPN "bracket buster" game. Tenatively set for Saturday, February 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Since the Zips face TOLEDO both home and away is that an indication of division realignment? Not an indication of that at all actually. Due to the unbalanced alignment and the 18 game schedule, there are some crossovers that have to be home and home to make it work out. There aren't the same number of teams in each division, so one division would be short games if the cross-over was only one game per team. Last season, there was a home and home with CMU. If teams in the east just played home and home with each other and single games against the west, that would only make 17 games, while the same scenario in the west would leave them with 18 games. Thus there's some unbalancing to make things work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Per the Dayton Flyer website, Zips are in Dayton Dec 23rd. Looks like a good road trip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PimpMyFlashes Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Saved the best news for last. The Zips are HOME for the ESPN "bracket buster" game. Tenatively set for Saturday, February 19. This is just B.S.. Call ESPN if you don't believe me.They don't determine who has home or away Bracket Buster games until mid January. Those teams with the best records get the home spots. Any other "rumor" at this point is someone's dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Correction pimpleflush .. they don't announce the OPPONENTS until mid-January. The location of the contests (ie home teams) are determined prior to the season starting. Check your Can't State schedule from last season. You'll see they were already listed at home when the hard copy schedules were printed in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatFink Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 PIMPLEflushIE, you dare dispute the all knowing Finkster? This is just B.S.. Call ESPN if you don't believe me.They don't determine who has home or away Bracket Buster games until mid January. Those teams with the best records get the home spots. Any other "rumor" at this point is someone's dream. Check today's GoZips.com ya little dweeb. The Zips ARE hosting an ESPN Bracket Buster game. See for yourself. Cant Read Cant Write ... oh well, have your Mommie read it to you. p.s. Your Mommie understands about the wet spots from your dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Not that you dolts would understand this, but a Bracket Buster home event is something a team plays intself into. You know, like the Gund ( Oops, you wouldn't know). WMU was listed as away last year at this time. Creighton was listed as "home". It all changes mid January. But, hey, stick with Go Zips. Buy your tickets now. Nothing funnier than a bunch of confused Zips fans sitting in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kflasher Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Hey Pimp Boy, The "Bracket Buster" home and away schedule is set before the season begins( in order to sell tickets), but, ESPN reserves the right to change it to create marquis TV match-up's as in the Creighton v Can't and Western Michigan v Coll. of Charleston(among other) games last season. If the Zips do as well as most of the posters on this board believe they will, ESPN could give the Zips an away game against another high RPI team. It all depends how it shakes out. BTW, I enjoy football, but can hoop season start NOW ?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roolio Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 YEAR two of this cycle of ESPN Bracker Buster games are FINAL in terms of site NOW. There are no adjustments in January. Anyone who says different is in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pimp My Flashes Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 It's year THREE of Bracket Buster. There is no "this cycle". ESPN has published nothing for 2005. Mike Thomas is having a wet dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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