Post-Game Notes

[sgm405]

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[Valpo Zip]

Very good points SGM.I am affraid that our bench is getting thinner. Quade is definitely back into last year's form. We are somehow transforming into a 6 player rotation. The only players who could contribute were the starters and cedrick. That's not a good sign.MAC refs still suck big time. It wasn't too bad tonight because it wasn't lopsided, they were calling stupid fouls both ways. But again, the game is becoming a FT shooting contest. This is becoming ugly night after night.

[sgm405]

Very good points SGM.I am affraid that our bench is getting thinner. Quade is definitely back into last year's form. We are somehow transforming into a 6 player rotation. The only players who could contribute were the starters and cedrick. That's not a good sign.MAC refs still suck big time. It wasn't too bad tonight because it wasn't lopsided, they were calling stupid fouls both ways. But again, the game is becoming a FT shooting contest. This is becoming ugly night after night.

Thanks!The depth does scare me...what used to be a strength doesn't seem to be as much anymore. Conyers hasn't provided much, Quade has struggled as of late, and McKnight hasn't been getting much burn...Rybak and everyone else on the bench is a waste for the most part...it's just not a very deep team at times. To further complicate things, they've been getting into foul trouble in some recent games...not a good combo. Personally, I want McKnight to get more of a chance to play. I think he has a lot of ability and just hasn't gotten much of a chance to show it as of yet. Also, why not let Goddard play 5-10 minutes a game? You know he'll stretch the defense and will most likely give you a three pointer or two. I've never understood why he was good enough to play against Nevada in crunch time but hasn't gotten meaningful minutes since.

[Big Zip]

Here's what I don't get -- the game is in hand you have a timeout. Why not use it and let your two seniors walk to the bench to a standing ovation. How freaking hard would that have been KD?

[skip-zip]

The MAC refs have been making bad calls, both ways, all year. With the exception of the Austin Peay game, we haven't really had dramatically lopsided officiating (those were OVC refs). They are just bad, period. I even saw several calls tonight that they got wrong, both ways.In terms of MAC teams, we do have some decent depth when it comes to your 6-9 players. But what scares me for the future is that none of them appear to be major contributors. They are pretty much minute-fillers.Goddard cannot do enough to contribute quality minutes when you consider his liabilities.Let's face reality. We don't play with enough consistency, home or away.

[skip-zip]

Well. Before anyone notices, please let me exclude Cedrick Middleton from the group of reserves that aren't showing the potential to be major future contributors.

[Quickzips]

Also, why not let Goddard play 5-10 minutes a game? You know he'll stretch the defense and will most likely give you a three pointer or two. I've never understood why he was good enough to play against Nevada in crunch time but hasn't gotten meaningful minutes since.

Someone please explain the fascination with Goddard to me. I just don't get it. He's a freak show. Fun to watch in warmups while he takes his 35 footers, many of them from the opposing teams bench, but when he gets in the game he's still acting like that. To me he's a smaller version of Bubba Walther without the mood swings. Hoisting up ridiculous threes with no regard for anything else, if he hits them maybe he can bury you, but if not he's a liability on the court. I've seen nothing to indicate that he can play solid defense and his speed is lackluster at best.

[zipfan 81]

Maybe thats because Goddard has never got a chance to show you that... give him 5-10 minutes a game and then make your decision....

[sgm405]

Also, why not let Goddard play 5-10 minutes a game? You know he'll stretch the defense and will most likely give you a three pointer or two. I've never understood why he was good enough to play against Nevada in crunch time but hasn't gotten meaningful minutes since.

Someone please explain the fascination with Goddard to me. I just don't get it. He's a freak show. Fun to watch in warmups while he takes his 35 footers, many of them from the opposing teams bench, but when he gets in the game he's still acting like that. To me he's a smaller version of Bubba Walther without the mood swings. Hoisting up ridiculous threes with no regard for anything else, if he hits them maybe he can bury you, but if not he's a liability on the court. I've seen nothing to indicate that he can play solid defense and his speed is lackluster at best.

Chris Paul once said Nick Goddard was the best shooter he'd ever seen. CHRIS PAUL! The guy is an incredible shooter with nearly unlimited range. Did you see how much attention Nevada paid to him when he got in? It opened up a lot for the other players. I'm not saying to start him or anything...but I'd rather see five minutes of Goddard than 5 minutes of Rybak, who does nothing.

[hoopla]

sgm, nevada payed no attention to him. quit trying to make an argument from nothing. goddard is exactly what quickzips says he is. he is around 30% in real game situations (that is time excluding mop up time). he plays no defense and really does nothing on offense. so tell me the sense it would make to put him in the ballgame. there is none. give him a chance to play 5-10 and see what he can do? that is what happend in the begining of the season. the nevada game you mentioned, niagra, and a few others. do you think if he did something to help KD would keep him out? give me a break. I too am tired of the nonrealistic goodard facination. i like him, he is a zip, but it is not fair to him to put him on such a high. just drop it already.

[Valpo Zip]

Chris Paul once said Nick Goddard was the best shooter he'd ever seen. CHRIS PAUL! The guy is an incredible shooter with nearly unlimited range. Did you see how much attention Nevada paid to him when he got in? It opened up a lot for the other players.

Then why didn't he get a scholarship somewhere to play ?Come on now... we all cheer for him when he throws a 3 and makes it but do you guys seriously think that if he can contribute and help us win, wouldn't KD play him more?He sees him at practice everyday and if he could play, he would have played.This issue has been overdiscussed already.

[Akronite]

The MAC refs have been making bad calls, both ways, all year. With the exception of the Austin Peay game, we haven't really had dramatically lopsided officiating (those were OVC refs). They are just bad, period. I even saw several calls tonight that they got wrong, both ways.

Not only have there been horrible calls, the refs have been calling way too many fouls and controlling the game. There is no reason for there to be 53 fouls in a game! Let the PLAYERS control the game!

[zipsbandman]

Is anyone else starting to feel this may not be our year? We are right back to where we were last year....cannot get a big road win.......no depth whatsoever......we are a very beatable team especially outside of the jar. The depth part really bothers me. Can't has an unlimited arsenal at their disposal while we have the likes of Rybak gracing our bench. Not to mention Quade is becoming more and more of a flop as each game goes on. Linhart just does not really impress me. Why can't we land players like OU, Can't, and Toledo get? I am not writing us off yet, as there is still time for them to prove otherwise, but unlike last year's debacle against Toledo, I am kind of prepared to be disappointed this season. It sucks.

[zipfan 81]

Chris Paul once said Nick Goddard was the best shooter he'd ever seen.  CHRIS PAUL!  The guy is an incredible shooter with nearly unlimited range.  Did you see how much attention Nevada paid to him when he got in?  It opened up a lot for the other players.

Then why didn't he get a scholarship somewhere to play ?Come on now... we all cheer for him when he throws a 3 and makes it but do you guys seriously think that if he can contribute and help us win, wouldn't KD play him more?He sees him at practice everyday and if he could play, he would have played.This issue has been overdiscussed already.

He concentrated on baseball in the summer, did not play AAU, got a scholi in baseball, but stayed with basketball because he loved it, drop it already.

[zipboy]

Is anyone else starting to feel this may not be our year? We are right back to where we were last year....cannot get a big road win.......no depth whatsoever......we are a very beatable team especially outside of the jar. The depth part really bothers me. Can't has an unlimited arsenal at their disposal while we have the likes of Rybak gracing our bench. Not to mention Quade is becoming more and more of a flop as each game goes on. Linhart just does not really impress me. Why can't we land players like OU, Can't, and Toledo get? I am not writing us off yet, as there is still time for them to prove otherwise, but unlike last year's debacle against Toledo, I am kind of prepared to be disappointed this season. It sucks.

I feel a lot better about the team right now than I did last year at this time. Joyce has not hit a wall, Dials is like night and day vs last year, and we have Wood. This team plays much better D than last year. Last year, we played a lot of zone to hide deficiencies. We have 3 conference losses, in 2 of those we had shots in the last 30 seconds to either tie or take the lead. If we make those 2 shots, we would be 12-1 and feeling better about ourselves but not be any better off for having a chance of winning it in Cleveland than where we are today.There are any of 5 teams that are good enough to play well for 3 days and win it all. None of the 5 standout any more than the others. In 2 weeks, Ohio people will say their team gets hot at tourney time, Miami people will say Charlie Cole always is a tough out, Toledo people will say #1 seed, Can't will say defending champs and tradition, and Akron will say the most complete team with the best senior leadership.I know that I am rambling here but it will be a roll of the dice. I like our chances as well as anyone. When Romeo elevates himself, no one else in the league can carry their team like he can.

[hoopla]

QUOTE (skhorbotly @ Feb 25 2007, 06:07 PM) QUOTE (sgm405 @ Feb 25 2007, 02:14 PM) Chris Paul once said Nick Goddard was the best shooter he'd ever seen.  CHRIS PAUL!  The guy is an incredible shooter with nearly unlimited range.  Did you see how much attention Nevada paid to him when he got in?  It opened up a lot for the other players. Then why didn't he get a scholarship somewhere to play ?Come on now... we all cheer for him when he throws a 3 and makes it but do you guys seriously think that if he can contribute and help us win, wouldn't KD play him more?He sees him at practice everyday and if he could play, he would have played.This issue has been overdiscussed already.  He concentrated on baseball in the summer, did not play AAU, got a scholi in baseball, but stayed with basketball because he loved it, drop it already.

Well something isnt adding up here. he loved basketball so much that he wanted to play baseball in the summers to give up a chance to play aau and lose chances to get a schollie? not doubting that he got a baseball schollie or anything but that sounds contradictory dont it? even then, KD does seem him every day and plain and simple he doesnt make the cut. this discussion has been going on way too long. enough is enough.

[BZip_08]

"Someone please explain the fascination with Goddard to me. I just don't get it. He's a freak show. Fun to watch in warmups while he takes his 35 footers, many of them from the opposing teams bench, but when he gets in the game he's still acting like that. To me he's a smaller version of Bubba Walther without the mood swings. Hoisting up ridiculous threes with no regard for anything else, if he hits them maybe he can bury you, but if not he's a liability on the court. I've seen nothing to indicate that he can play solid defense and his speed is lackluster at best. "(1) AMEN. Don't get me wrong, the kid has some wicked threes from half-frickin-court... during practice. But he has not shown the patience or the maturity to wait for the shot. Heck, even I can shoot a three from a mile away, that doesn't mean I should. I've said it all season at the game, when people start bitchin about putting Goddard in- if there are only a couple minutes left and we're winning by more than 20- okay. Otherwise, there is no way. F Throw % 1st Half: 14-27 51.9% 2nd Half: 18-27 66.7% Game: 59.3% (2) Free throw percentage could definitely be better, but the fact they gave us 54 makes me sick. That is some ugly playing on BG's part. I don't care how bad mac refs are, they can only account for a few of those.(3) Another game over 5,000. They got their money's worth. It was exciting... I almost had a panic attack from the newest version of the Cardiac Kids, but it was exciting.

[goodthts]

OH DEAR GOD!!!54 FT's!!! And they made 32....jeeezus f'in Chryst!! We suck so bad at this, WHY?!!!!The Zips are going to go out in the first MAC tourney game b.c. of this, i will bet on it.~chris

[BirdZip]

"OH DEAR GOD!!!54 FT's!!! And they made 32....jeeezus f'in Chryst!! We suck so bad at this, WHY?!!!!The Zips are going to go out in the first MAC tourney game b.c. of this, i will bet on it."I've been a big critic of Akron's FT shooting all year as well, and the BG game was horrible, but I'd take that bet any day. I decided to take a look around a bit at what other teams shoot (Team FT% per ESPN for the season):MAC EASTAkron .664Can't .650Miami .698Ohio .729Buffalo .697Bowling G .675MAC WESTToledo .680West Mich .715Cent Mich .724East Mich .692Ball St. .691N Ill .708COUNTRY TOP 5Ohio State .695Wisconsin .682Florida .678UCLA .657No Car .702I guess the bottom line is, while Akron stinks from the stripe (2nd worst in the MAC), so does everyone else. Best in the MAC is .729. Akron averages 18.6 FT per game. At 66.4%, that's 12.4 points per game from FT. If we were tied for best in the MAC, that would be 13.6 points per game. One point difference.We still stink at FT, but I thought it was interesting info.Also note above further proof that

[goodthts]

Great info Bird! Didnt realize many other teams are comparable to us for FT's. Guess my point was Akron is better as a team than most if not all MAC teams and many other mid-major teams. We should have at least 3 more wins this year based on FT's alone (Miami, Toledo, and at least one out of the non-conf games). We should already have a Mac Title secure and be giving more time to younger/less experienced players.I'm a fan, alumni and Akron advocate, but get so burned when the "ALMOST" mentality permeates all of NEOhio sports teams.Here's hoping Akron wins out, kills the first 2 teams they play in the tourney and shine on TV to become !