What's needed to secure 2 or 3 seed?

[exexec]

Can someone figure out what is needed for us to secure a 2 or 3 seed?

[Quickzips]

If I am thinking right one more win or one more Miami loss and we secure at least the 3 seed. I could be wrong though, don't hold me to that.

[zipsbandman]

I would not mind the four seed, but that would mean we end the season on a downer and may not bode well in terms of momentum.

[UAZipster0305]

The four seed means we wouldn't face Can't until the final if both teams made it that far. I think we could beat Toledo on a neutral court. I like the four seed myself...playing the rival school for the right to go to the NCAA Tournament...it doesn't get any better than that...especially if we win!However, I'm all about seeing us win out and having momentum.

[skip-zip]

Zipsbandman..you are correct. I've been saying that for weeks. The #4 seed puts us in a pretty good position. It probably gives us a quarterfinal matchup against Ohio, and a semifinal matchup against Toledo. Thus, we would get a Can't/Akron game for the MAC Championship.If we go in as either the #2 or #3, we probably play Can't in the semifinal. Unless, of course, we beat Can't to end the season on the road. Then, Can't might slip to the #4 spot.So many possibilities still out there.The only thing we know is that Toledo, Can't, Akron, and Miami will be the top 4 seeds.

[skip-zip]

trimmy...I see you are saying the same thing too.I'm really liking our chances in that #4 spot.

[zipsbandman]

So we can think of this as a win win situation then? We lose the next two then we end up in the four. Now if we win the next two that means we are pretty darn good and we have momentum.

[hoopla]

how did the miami and cant games come out this year? did they split? if so could miami win out and cant fall to a 4 spot? i dont know how that would work if it is a possibility at all even.

[skip-zip]

One other thing seems pretty certain now too. Toledo has likely now secured the #1 spot with their overtime road win at Western Michigan.

[originalrowdy]

Hoopla, Miami and Can't split games this year so, if by chance there were a tie in conference record at the end of the year, they look to winning percentage vs. ranked conference teams, (top to bottom, regardless of division, vs. common opponents regardless of the number of times played). This is not yet possible to figure out since there are some games left that would affect this outcome. I do know, though, that this could also turn out tied. If this happens... you're looking at a coin flip between the #3 and #4 seeds. So, to answer your question, YES, Can't could be the #4 as it stands right now. Aaaaand we could play them in the championship!

[hoopla]

yes sir!!! that is what i was looking for. thanks originalrowdy. you were on top of that one.

[jeaglet1]

To get the #2 (or #1) seed we must win the Division. East/West Champions are automatically given the #1/#2 seed (the one with better conference winning percentage gets #1... so far that would be Toledo, with Akron or Can't getting the #2 seed)...Current battle for MAC East Championship -1.) Akron 11-3 .7862.) Can't 11-3 .7863.) Miami 10-4 .714Those three will be battling it out for the #2-4 seeds. MAC Handbook doesn't give any other information on tiebreakers past the conference winning percentage. If Miami loses to Ohio on Thursday and we beat Buffalo, then we have at least the third seed clinched. However I don't think we'll be able to decide who gets #1, 2, or 3 until Saturday after the games are over.

I believe they changed it this year so the division winners are guarenteed byes, but not the #1 or #2 seed. I saw a discussion on the MAC board where everyone was saying the Womens tournament still guarenteed the champs the #1 and #2 seeds, but the mens tourny did not.

[skip-zip]

Nav. I think I see where you're going with this. If the tiebreaker is what everyone thinks it is, and Toledo wins out to secure the #1 spot, then it appears that Can't has the upper hand for the #2 seed since they were the only team to beat Toledo. Does that sound right?And if that happens, I would then want Akron to be the #4 instead of the #3. That way, we'll play Toledo in the Semis.

[Zipgrad1990]

If Can't wins its last 2 games it gets the number 2 seed with the best record in the East -Can't 13-3Akron 12-4 (losing to Can't) or 11-5 (losing to Buffalo too)Miami 12-4 (if they win their last 2)Can't loses to BG but beats Akron:Can't 12-4Akron 12-4 (assuming we beat Buffalo) 11-5 (losing to Buffalo)Miami 12-4 (if they win their last 2)Everyone is 1-1 verses each other so then the Toledo win will help Can't and they will probably get the number 2 seed.Akron beats Can't but loses to Buffalo:Akron 12-4Can't 12-4Miami 12-4 (if they win their last 2)Akron takes the number 2 seed since they are 2-0 verses Can't and 1-1 verses MiamiMiami takes the number 3 seed since they are 1-1 verses Can't and 1-1 verses AkronCan't takes the number 4 seed since they are 0-2 verses Akron and 1-1 verses MiamiIf I am right, all we need to do is beat Can't to take the number 2 seed and the Buffalo game is meaningless, unless Toledo drops their last 2 then it would mean something as we would get the number 1 seed.