KNCLZip Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 And ANOTHER thing....the "refs" clearly admitted that a mistake was made by adding time to the clock after the mistake was made!The clock operator was obviously asleep at the switch. But talking rule-wise, is there any way to correct that error without replaying from 6.6 seconds? Miami could have claimed that they had an eye on the clock and timed the shot to go as time expired; while the officials clearly screwed up, it may not be a correctable error.The big problem is that we didn't get it done from the FT line. If we make that free throw, a Miami 3 ties the game. If we make that free throw, we get a second shot which, if made, would put the game on ice with us up by 4. Not to excuse the officials, but we put ourselves in the position to be in peril and dependent on the clock operator.The TV announcers did mention that technically the officials could have called a technical foul on Miami for charging onto the court, but apparently they decided against that because the clock did show :00.0 so they couldn't be expected to know not to charge the court. Can you imagine if they did call the T? (Part of me cringes thinking about us needing one FT to tie and another to win [or at least go ahead with :00.6 left]....maybe I've gotten cynical tonight.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 antonio, we beat you three times this season, including a heartbreaker at Can't and another heartbreaker at the q. those games must have been very painful for you and that would explain why you did not post on this board after them. despite the tough mac championship loss, i will forever remember this season in a positive light for those three wins against Can't. and, admit it or not, you will always remember this as the year akron beat you three times in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNCLZip Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Hey Antonio....78-6866-6461-54 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanpreppie05 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Why am I NOT surprised that he came around? Regardless, this was a hard-fought game on both sides. I enjoyed the game (except the last few seconds, of course.) Well, bring on the NIT. And Miami, win it for all of us underdog, high-talent, overlooked MAC schools. and as usual, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indians06 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 What makes me sick is the Horizon League once again is a multi bid conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanpreppie05 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Are you kidding me? Wow. The MAC gets no respect. But we all knew that already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 What a sickening turn of events. I don't even know what to say about all that. Obviously the MAC screwed that whole thing up at the end. But we didn't take care of our business when we needed to. We were hitting FT's so well Thur. and Fri. night and we resort back to our old self tonight. And how many times are we going to let our opponent dictate the pace of the game? If we push the ball on the offensive end and make Miami get into a race with us instead of a leizurely walk through the park there is no way they can match whits with us. KD says on the postgame show, "well if that wasn't game 3 in 3 days maybe we wouldn't be so tired" BULL. Miami played 3 games in 3 days the same as we did and they didn't fold up like a bunch of pussies at the end of the game. I don't even know what to say about this. God I wish we were out of the MAC. I'd rather be a bottomfeeder in the Big East than sitting around in this crappy one bid conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YsamRSam Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 So coach can trust Goddard to win the mac championship but can't trust him to play 3 or 4 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad1990 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 What makes me sick is the Horizon League once again is a multi bid conferenceI'm tired of the MAC only getting one bid year after year. I am pulling for Miami to do well, but it won't matter. Next year we will again be only a 1 bid conference unless all the teams step up and play a tougher non-conference schedule and actually win a few of those games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 OK. I have a question. If the clock starts late, logically you take the time that elapsed by mistake off the clock, not put even more time on. Right? So that means that the buzzer should have sounded before Miami threw up that fluke of a shot. Right? Anybody care to explain this to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eguins Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 What makes me sick is the Horizon League once again is a multi bid conference I admit, I was really sad to see you guys lose that heartbreaker tonight. I've been pulling you since you put it on YSU and since your 3 wins vs. those damn flushes.Re: The Horizon. The league as a whole did vert well vs. the MAC the entire year, including a 3-0 record on Bracketbuster Saturday. I think the final tally was 14-9; but teams like Cleveland State, which is pretty bad, even got a W for Can't.MAC is dominant in the big inside game.Horizon is dominant in the guard game.----------That equals out to some pretty good basketball.Good Luck in the N-I-T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Really this conference is a piece of shit. One bid year after year. Piss poor scheduling. Jokes of game officials...........it goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 So coach can trust Goddard to win the mac championship but can't trust him to play 3 or 4 minutes? Jesus, get off of Goddards balls. The kid is a freak show and thats why he's in. Those half court shots which we would have needed there are ALL that he can do. He plays absolutely no defense, doesn't know how to pass the ball and has no speed to go to the rack. Thats why he doesn't play. If it weren't for the fact that he seems to have a knack for the halfcourt shot he wouldn't even be on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YsamRSam Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 So coach can trust Goddard to win the mac championship but can't trust him to play 3 or 4 minutes?Jesus, get off of Goddards balls. The kid is a freak show and thats why he's in. Those half court shots which we would have needed there are ALL that he can do. He plays absolutely no defense, doesn't know how to pass the ball and has no speed to go to the rack. Thats why he doesn't play. If it weren't for the fact that he seems to have a knack for the halfcourt shot he wouldn't even be on this team. Im sure you can assume that when hes in for 2 minutes a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 So coach can trust Goddard to win the mac championship but can't trust him to play 3 or 4 minutes?Jesus, get off of Goddards balls. The kid is a freak show and thats why he's in. Those half court shots which we would have needed there are ALL that he can do. He plays absolutely no defense, doesn't know how to pass the ball and has no speed to go to the rack. Thats why he doesn't play. If it weren't for the fact that he seems to have a knack for the halfcourt shot he wouldn't even be on this team. Im sure you can assume that when hes in for 2 minutes a game. No, I KNOW that because he is in 2 minutes a game. Have you ever seen him try to penetrate the lane? No. Have you ever seen him dish out to another player? No. Have you ever seen him do anything but catch the ball and just throw up a shot, regardless of where he is on the floor? No. Watch him in warmups, he doesn't even practice layups or anything, he just stands 5 feet behind the 3 point line and hoists up 3's, sometimes he'll even go out of bounds and start hoisting them up. If the kid worked half as hard on the rest of his game as he does those 30+ footers maybe he'd see some more playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Goddard seems to be the best solution to all our problems. He is a great shooter, and deffender. He is a great ball handler and FT shooter as well. His speed and great vision of the court makes him a potential starter at PG.KD knows all that and he sees it every day at practice, however he never plays him because KD wants this team to loose. He is a Can't state agent. He was planted in our program to ruin it after all the success in the Hipsher era. He plays the bad players and benches the good ones... I won't be surprized if Charlie Coles has a hand in this huge conspiracy too.The worst part of it all is that Goddard himself, he got a ton of scholarships, at places where he would start. Yet he decided to stay here and pay his way in school and sit on the bench... he is also a part of the conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Goddard seems to be the best solution to all our problems. He is a great shooter, and deffender. He is a great ball handler and FT shooter as well. His speed and great vision of the court makes him a potential starter at PG.KD knows all that and he sees it every day at practice, however he never plays him because KD wants this team to loose. He is a Can't state agent. He was planted in our program to ruin it after all the success in the Hipsher era. He plays the bad players and benches the good ones... I won't be surprized if Charlie Coles has a hand in this huge conspiracy too.The worst part of it all is that Goddard himself, he got a ton of scholarships, at places where he would start. Yet he decided to stay here and pay his way in school and sit on the bench... he is also a part of the conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Here is a question as to why we lost this game? Did Can't emotionally and physically wear us out? Were we doomed from the start by ending up on the same side of the bracket as them? I say maybe. I did not want Can't in the semis from the very beginning win or lose. I bet the outcome would be different if the dildos did not have the luxury of beating up on a sorry west conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeaglet1 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 I think it's all been said. Free throws free throws free throws.One thing I, and those watching the game with me noticed, was that afer the foul to put ced on the line, an additional second ran off off the clock before it stopped. Maybe the time keeper realized this and was "making up for it"? I dunno. Congrats to Miami, hope they pull the upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 OK. I have a question. If the clock starts late, logically you take the time that elapsed by mistake off the clock, not put even more time on. Right? So that means that the buzzer should have sounded before Miami threw up that fluke of a shot. Right? Anybody care to explain this to me?The shot went up with about 1.3 seconds left. If the clock had started .6 seconds earlier as it should have he still would have gotten it off in time. I guess there is no way to replay from the time of the mistake so the .6 seconds that should have elapsed but didn't were added back to the clock. It doesn't help though if you can't throw an inbound pass.We missed some FT's but we also threw up some crappy rushed shots from outside. I think MU's defense and slowdown style frustrates us into doing that. If we truly had some depth we could full court press, wear them down and get some turnovers & fast breaks...their game is the halfcourt, fast-passing, find the open guy and catch us flat footed on defense. If you want to force the opponent into a faster tempo you have to play some full court defense & not let them just walk it up the floor and skillfully execute their half court game, am I wrong about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyrifle32 Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 but isn't .6 seconds like the minimum standard to get at least one more shot off? i think more time ran off the clock than just .6. win, lose, whatever, the mac refs have a real knack for fucking up when it really counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 BOTTOM LINEWe left the door open, and Miami took advantage of it. Had we slamed it shut, we wouldn't be having this discussion. We shouldn't need to rely on someone else to get us to the Tourney.I'm not blaming any of the players or coaches,... or anyone. They all approached this season in a very frank manner. Went to work, and did their best all season. The clock doesn't matter. Their is no way the refs could have accurately determined how much time rolled off the clock and not had everyone sitting there for 3 hours. You can't rerun the play, you can't call a T on Miami when the clock says 0:00. IMO, the refs did us a favor by putting 0.6 sec. back on the clock. Miami did what they needed and got it done. I hope they do well in the tourney to justify multiple MAC bids in future seasons. We're off to the NIT, where I hope the Zips use this as fuel to make a LONG run in that Tourney!Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipAlumn Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Goddard seems to be the best solution to all our problems. He is a great shooter, and deffender. He is a great ball handler and FT shooter as well. His speed and great vision of the court makes him a potential starter at PG.KD knows all that and he sees it every day at practice, however he never plays him because KD wants this team to loose. He is a Can't state agent. He was planted in our program to ruin it after all the success in the Hipsher era. He plays the bad players and benches the good ones... I won't be surprized if Charlie Coles has a hand in this huge conspiracy too.The worst part of it all is that Goddard himself, he got a ton of scholarships, at places where he would start. Yet he decided to stay here and pay his way in school and sit on the bench... he is also a part of the conspiracy Just how many relatives of Nick Goddard are out there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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