Quickzips Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Ok, let's try this again. Let's take it all the way down to the first two drives of the game by our opponents. Please tell me you won't argue with the idea that our defense shouldn't be torched during our opponents first two drives.Six times this season our opponents scored on one of their first two drives (Indiana, WMU, Buffalo, Temple, BG, OU, and as a side note Temple did it with a FG on their second drive which happened in the 2nd quarter). Twice (Buffalo and BG) they scored TD on both of their opening drives. Three other times (Army, CMU and Can't) our opponent got into scoring range before losing possession. Over the past three seasons our opponents have scored on us in their first two possessions 15 out of 37 times (40%) and have gotten into scoring position 22 out of 37 times (59%). To my untrained eye, that is far too often and cannot be attributed to this idea that our defense is on the field too much and is getting gassed, but I'll defer to your expertise and let you make what inferences you want from that. Quote
g-mann17 Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Ok, let's try this again. Let's take it all the way down to the first two drives of the game by our opponents. Please tell me you won't argue with the idea that our defense shouldn't be torched during our opponents first two drives.Six times this season our opponents scored on one of their first two drives (Indiana, WMU, Buffalo, Temple, BG, OU, and as a side note Temple did it with a FG on their second drive which happened in the 2nd quarter). Twice (Buffalo and BG) they scored TD on both of their opening drives. Three other times (Army, CMU and Can't) our opponent got into scoring range before losing possession. Over the past three seasons our opponents have scored on us in their first two possessions 15 out of 37 times (40%) and have gotten into scoring position 22 out of 37 times (59%). To my untrained eye, that is far too often and cannot be attributed to this idea that our defense is on the field too much and is getting gassed, but I'll defer to your expertise and let you make what inferences you want from that.So you are isolating the first portion of every game that accounts for 7 of our average 25.6 points ppg over the past 3 years. Which leaves 18.6 points over the remaining drives of the game. Assuming we answer the touchdown (which we didn't because of poor offense) that means the defense is playing competively. And that despite having to defend horrible field position they are only allowing 18.6 points. Sorry your point is completely invalid. The offense just has not been playing up to par. There is always room for improvement on both sides of the ball. But please quit trying to say the 3-3-5 and the defense is the sole problem when it's clearly not. Quote
Quickzips Posted February 20, 2008 Report Posted February 20, 2008 Ok, let's try this again. Let's take it all the way down to the first two drives of the game by our opponents. Please tell me you won't argue with the idea that our defense shouldn't be torched during our opponents first two drives.Six times this season our opponents scored on one of their first two drives (Indiana, WMU, Buffalo, Temple, BG, OU, and as a side note Temple did it with a FG on their second drive which happened in the 2nd quarter). Twice (Buffalo and BG) they scored TD on both of their opening drives. Three other times (Army, CMU and Can't) our opponent got into scoring range before losing possession. Over the past three seasons our opponents have scored on us in their first two possessions 15 out of 37 times (40%) and have gotten into scoring position 22 out of 37 times (59%). To my untrained eye, that is far too often and cannot be attributed to this idea that our defense is on the field too much and is getting gassed, but I'll defer to your expertise and let you make what inferences you want from that.So you are isolating the first portion of every game that accounts for 7 of our average 25.6 points ppg over the past 3 years. Which leaves 18.6 points over the remaining drives of the game. Assuming we answer the touchdown (which we didn't because of poor offense) that means the defense is playing competively. And that despite having to defend horrible field position they are only allowing 18.6 points. Sorry your point is completely invalid. The offense just has not been playing up to par. There is always room for improvement on both sides of the ball. But please quit trying to say the 3-3-5 and the defense is the sole problem when it's clearly not.Find for me one place where I said the 335 defense is the sole problem on this team. What I said, was it is a crappy gimmick defense which we don't have hte personel to run. Is the offense in need of a makeover? Heck yeah. This read-option crap only works for teams that have had a history of success recruiting players that are tailor made to run it (Florida, West Virginia prior to Rodriguez leaving). The problem isn't just on the offensive side of the ball though. That's what I've been trying to get through to you for a page and a half now. This defensive scheme makes it terribly difficult for us to pressure the QB, often times negating any advantage we get from having an extra defensive back on the field and it gives up rushing yards at a ridiculous rate, especially to mobile QB's. Does it help anything that our offense, this year in particular, couldn't stay on the field long enough to give the defense a break? Ofcourse not. Is that the only thing wrong with this defense? Not at all. A lot of it is based on the overall scheme and the fact that we haven't been able to recruit the talent to play it on our front 6. Quote
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