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The problem with OU partisans is that they blindly listen to that cheap grifter that you hired as a President and take his word for everything. The man is an utter genius at telling his audience the things they desperately want to hear, but his actual performance is hollow and empty. I don't care how many kids are applying to OU as a backup school, they're not driving any quality improvements. Its freshman class quality has been completely stagnant. Now, I'm going to do something that McDavis doesn't and actually show you the facts. Here is your freshman class profile for last year and five years ago. And I'll compare it with some other schools around the state. OU Middle 50% on SAT 2009: 970-1200 2014: 980-1200 On the ACT 2009: 21-26 2014: 22-26 Percent Scoring 30+ 2009: 8% 2014: 7% Percent Scoring <24 2009: 52% 2014: 48% Percent in Top Tenth of HS Class 2009: 16% 2014: 15% Tell me, does that look like a university on the move? One that's "getting out from under the shadow" of OSU or Miami and closing the gap? Or does it look like a university that is completely stagnant. And how are you going to compete for top students when OU has an endowment per student half the size of Miami or UC and barely a quarter that of OSU? Here are some comparisons with UA and other schools in Ohio. At the top of the class, OU is NO better than UA despite the averages being dragged down by UA still being largely open admissions. How pathetic that OU with its 200 year history and delusions of grandeur can't even attract more 30+ ACT students than poor little open admissions Akron. UC has clearly passed you by at both the top and bottom of the freshman class profile, while OSU and Miami are playing an entirely different ballgame than OU. Think about this for a moment: OSU's 25th percentile ACT score is higher than OU's 75th percentile score. Would you care to tell me how OU is the hottest college in the state and is out of OSU's shadow again please. Middle 50% on SAT OU 980-1200 UA 900-1200 UC 1040-1290 Miami 1120-1330 OSU 1160-1390 Middle 50% on ACT OU 22-26 UA 19-26 UC 23-28 Miami 25-30 OSU 27-31 Percent Scoring 30+ on ACT OU 7% UA 7% UC 15% Miami 28% OSU 41% Percent Scoring <24 on ACT OU 48% UA 61% UC 31% Miami 8% OSU 5% Top Tenth of HS Class OU 15% UA 16% UC 20% Miami 34% OSU 61% Top Quarter of HS Class OU 43% UA 38% UC 48% Miami 68% OSU 94% Bottom Half of HS Class OU 18% UA 46% UC 19% Miami 7% OSU 1% Where else do you want to go with this? Research funding? National Academy members on faculty? Ranking of Departments/Doctoral Programs? I can do this all day. Everything points in one direction: that OU is no different than Akron or Can't or Toledo. I hate to break it to you, but OU absolutely deserved to be in the left column of that napkin. OSU and Miami don't view you as a competitor in any sense, and UC doesn't for anything but undergraduate students, which is rapidly changing as they pass you by. Quite frankly, I'd rather see UA admit that it has problems, challenges and areas where it has underperformed and attempt to do something about it than live in the deluded fantasy world that OU occupies inside its own head. BTW, don't look now but I think your Prez just gave his wife another raise. OU 2009 OU 2014 UA 2014 UC 2014 MU 2014 OSU 2014