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Got it. Thanks for pointing that out. Sometimes what I am thinking and what I am typing don't mesh. Meister, my fault...disregard that last post.

Meister, not for me (let me bow down and kiss your ring since you are obviously superior to me in your University of Akron knowledge and anyone who states any opinion other than yours is wrong and deserves to be insulted in your child-like ways) no. I was just stating my opinion.

Meister, not for me...no. I was just stating my opinion.

Keener'92 If you this this is way off base, please elaborate...

Count me in as the first person to blast Tom Wistrcill for his handling of the hiring of Rob Ianello and the "coaching search" that he conducted in the wake of Ianello's firing. That being said, I also must give credit where credit is due. I firmly believe that Terry Bowden is a "home-run" hire for the University of Akron. Regardless of who initiated the discussions, Wistrcill is the one who did the hiring. Whether things work out in the long term is something we'll have to watch as it unfolds, but outside of Tressell(who I didn't think he should hire due to sanctions) this is better than any other name I heard on search list. That makes 2 hires for Wistrcill thus far that I believe will have an immediate and positive impact on Akron Zips Athletics. Rick Rembielak is also a solid hire.

I would like to have hired Kehres about 5 years ago. However, now he leaves most of the coaching to his son Vince(Defense) and Zac Bruney(Offense). Every year during the NC game broadcast the announcers comment on how he has taken a step back on the actually coaching he does and has turned most of it over to them. It sounds like now he is more of what Joe Paterno was at Penn St.

Speilman wasn't a good player ?? Either G-Mann17 doesn't know anything about football or has something against Speilman. 2 Time All-American, Lombardi Award Winner, 4 Time Pro-Bowler, 3 Time All Pro, Member of the College Football HOF Class of 2010. Man....that dude sucks !!! Hopefully the next Akron coach doesn't recruit any players like that. Coaching wise, NO...he is not ready to be a college head coach. Plus he is making more at ESPN than Akron would pay him. Spielman wasn't a good player, heck he isn't even a good announcer. He has no coaching experience and quite frankly, no people skills.

Gill may not be a viable candidate, but he is more viable than Jim Tressel ever was. I would be the first one on the welcoming wagon if he came, but the chances of that happening this year were 0%. We should have let Ianello go earlier so we could start interviewing candidates sooner. It looks like Carl Pelini is off the board and heading to FAU. Well, he has D-1 HC experience, unlike your favorite. Nothing personal. Maybe you should go back to the world's alleged number 1 sport.

Spurrier and Meyer took Florida to NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP games, Zook to Florida to BOWL games. Zook's records at Florida 8-5, 8-5, 7-5. I would not call that continuing the tradition. At Akron I would gladly take that, at Florida...thats not getting it done. Turner Gill took mediocre talent and coached them up to be a team. If "failing" is winning a MAC championship, I will gladly take failing. I have to assume that Jeff Quinn throughly investigated the program and just didn't take the job blindly. If not thats his problem, not Turner Gill's. The reason Gill isn't coaching in the Big 12 is that he redshirted his entire 2011 recruiting class so that he would have a solid team next year. He gambled that his current team could win 4 or 5 games and allow him to keep his job and have a promising team for next year...he lost that gamble. We are going to have to agree to disagree here. Getting back to the Zips I am just saying that there are other viable candidates that are not being mentioned. Ok, lets see... Gill, 20-30 as a head coach. Relied heavily on JUCO kids and transfers to win a MAC Championship in 2008. Yes, Buffalo was awful before he got there, but they should have been awful because they were an awful 1-AA team, and before that an awful D-3 team. Which gets to my point that Gill didn't "build" anything there. He found out how to win for a hot a minute and road that success to another offer and left the team with nothing. His replacement, Jeff Quinn, is a Brian Kelley guy. He assumed he was going to a team with something, and truth be told they had nothing. As for Zook, Zook took the Gators to three consecutive bowl games. Two 6-2 SEC records and missed a shot at an SEC championship game because of a tie breaker. The Gators haven't been in the "tank" since 1979 (0-10) that was the last losing season they had. Why? Several reasons, but mostly because they hire coaches that continue on the tradition. When Florida has to dump a coach its because his stuff isn't working anymore. It's not because the program is failing. If Gill had done his job in Buffalo any mediocre coach should have been able to be plugged in and been mediocre (in the MAC that is 5-7 to 4-8). Gill failed, and his style is why he isn't coaching in the Big 12 anymore.

Well....I WOULD say he rebuilt it. The coach before Turner Gill (Jim Hofher)won 8 total games in 5 seasons. Buffalo won a total of 10 games and lost 69 during Hofher's 5 years and the 2 years of the coach before him. The only hard work Gill capitalized on was HIS OWN. You can't blame Gill on what happened after he left. It comes down to making the right hire and apparently Buffalo didn't do that either. Look at Florida....Spurrier leaves and Ron Zook comes in. The football team goes in the tank. Zook leaves and Meyer comes in....the team is good again. Everyone says Meyer won his first national championship with Zook's players...which is true...but recruiting players is one thing....coaching and getting the most of them is something totally different. Again, it is about hiring the right person. I would say he didn't "rebuild it" look at what has happened since he left. Relegated to playing us for "Turd of the conference". A rebuilt program would sustain success after a coach. Maybe you dip to mediocre for a year as the team adjusts to the new coach, but certainly not to the abysmal depths that Akron and Buffalo have sunk. Gill did what Brookhart did. Took some other coach's hard work, win with it, and try to get the heck out. JD's problem was his success happened in his second year in an era where a coach had to have "sustained success" to get a new job. Now you just need to be a flash in a pan and people want to throw money at you without looking at what you had to work with.

Its my opinion that Akron needs to decide if they want to hire a known commodity coach who will rebuild the program and then leave for a "bigger" and "better" job, or do they want to hire a relatively unknown coach who might take longer to rebuild...but will stay onboard for the long-haul(Keith Dambrot). If we are looking for a quick rebuild type coach, I think Turner Gill would be worth looking into. He knows how to win in the MAC, is recently unemployed, and he rebuilt a Buffalo program that was is as bad of shape as Akron currently is in. To quote Lee Corso: "Not so fast, my friend!" I want to interview multiple candidates. Winters should be one of them. Any coach from Wisconsin or Minnesota shot not be one of them. And anyone caught asking for Barry Alvarez's advice should be fired.

ZipRoo, I'M NOT 100% SURE...but I don't think the NCAA gives a damn that the football team is in the tank and nobody goes to the games. Also I was not aware that I needed to have your blessing before I was allowed to post on this board. I'M NOT NOT 100% SURE that there is a correlation between how long someone has been posting here and how reliable there information is. If I am wrong on that front...ZipRoo...please show me. So if I hear what you are saying ZipRoo, if Tom Wistricill decided to sign up and post information on this board...his info wouldn't be reliable because he would be a total newcomer. I remember when bringing in a BIG NAME former head coach from NOTRE DAME(Gerry Faust) was hailed as a huge coup for Akron. We all know how that turned out. Also, you are fooling yourself if you think just because Jim Tressel is here...Akron is going to get the 4 and 5 star recruits. THAT I am 100% sure of. A kid may have grown up wanting to play for Jim Tressel, but the part about him being at Ohio State, coaching in the Big Ten, coaching in BCS Bowls might have had something to do with it as well. I am NOT against the hiring of Jim Tressel. I AM against hiring a coach that will bring sanctions with him that will hamstring a football program that is already in awful shape. Big Zip, no I am not a member of the NCAA and NO...$250,000 and 1 year away from coaching will most likely not be enough...although I AM NOT 100% SURE on that. I just researched the topic. If you type in "show-cause" on Google...you could probably even do it yourself. A show-cause penalty means a school wanting to hire a coach serving that penalty must appear before the NCAA committee on infractions to explain why it wants to do so. If the school chooses to go ahead with the hire, it would have to agree to any possible additional penalties the committee might want to levy. Traditionally, schools have stayed away from a coach on a show-cause penalty. Bruce Pearl got 3 years and what he did(Lying to NCAA investigators about potential Aaron Craft being at a picnic at his house) was minor compared to what Tressel did. Again, I am not the NCAA. If Akron wanted to hire Tressel and they explained why to the NCAA, they might not receive any sanctions at all(I doubt it...but I'M NOT 100% SURE).

Akron will not hire Jim Tressel as its head coach. Not that they would not want to hire him or that we would not accept the job(which he might). The reason is that Jim Tressel is going to be hit with a "show cause" penalty by the NCAA. The same penalty that Bruce Pearl was hit with. Basically this penalty makes the coach toxic for however long the NCAA decided the length of the penalty will be. Bruce Pearl, for example, got hit with 3 years. This means that if a school would like to hire that coach, they would have to have a hearing before the NCAA explaining why they would want to hire a coach who is currently under penalty by the NCAA. The point of the "show-cause" penalty is to punish coaches who broke NCAA rules and dissuade other schools from hiring them during this time period. If a school knows all of this and STILL wants to hire that coach, they would have to have a pretty convincing argument to the NCAA why that particular coach is the ONLY coach that the institution could possible hire. That being said, the NCAA can't prevent a school for hiring anyone. However, they can hit the school with the same penalties that they levied against a coach who broke rules at a different school. If Tressel could just leave OSU and face no further punishment, don't you think his name would be coming up for some of the more high profile jobs? A coach with 1 NC and 2 other NC Game appearances, 7 straight Big Ten titles, and and average of 10 wins per season would have his pick of choice jobs. Its not like Bruce Pearl just decided that he didn't want to coach anymore. After 3 years passes and his punishment is lifted, he will be right back on the sidelines coaching someone.

Akron will not hire Jim Tressel as its head coach. Not that they would not want to hire him or that we would not accept the job(which he might). The reason is that Jim Tressel is going to be hit with a "show cause" penalty by the NCAA. The same penalty that Bruce Pearl was hit with. Basically this penalty makes the coach toxic for however long the NCAA decided the length of the penalty will be. Bruce Pearl, for example, got hit with 3 years. This means that if a school would like to hire that coach, they would have to have a hearing before the NCAA explaining why they would want to hire a coach who is currently under penalty by the NCAA. The point of the "show-cause" penalty is to punish coaches who broke NCAA rules and dissuade other schools from hiring them during this time period. If a school knows all of this and STILL wants to hire that coach, they would have to have a pretty convincing argument to the NCAA why that particular coach is the ONLY coach that the institution could possible hire. That being said, the NCAA can't prevent a school for hiring anyone. However, they can hit the school with the same penalties that they levied against a coach who broke rules at a different school. If Tressel could just leave OSU and face no further punishment, don't you think his name would be coming up for some of the more high profile jobs? A coach with 1 NC and 2 other NC Game appearances, 7 straight Big Ten titles, and and average of 10 wins per season would have his pick of choice jobs. Its not like Bruce Pearl just decided that he didn't want to coach anymore. After 3 years passes and his punishment is lifted, he will be right back on the sidelines coaching someone.