Zippy989 Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Opinions on BG's move back East??? Help or hurt the Zips? My thoughts: Short-term it pushes us back a year or two. No BG in '05 means we slug it out with Miami for the MAC EAST title. Add BG and you have to think BG and Miami are favorites . Maybe we can sneak up on them, flying just under the radar?? Long-term it helps. Recruiting took a major step forward this year and being able to point to games with Miami and BG every year, two very successful programs, should help JD recruit even more... I am really looking forward to this season. How long has it been since we could say that?? Has anybody heard who the crossover games are yet? I read on the MAC website that the opponents were approved at the same meeting BG's move was approved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MAC Daddy Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Akron and Miami slugging it out in the East in '05? Akron lost Frye, the whole offensive front, LeFall, Blackburn, and Earl, plus Fuller and a handful of guys like Basch. With no experience in the pocket or in the trenches Akron will be lucky to win 3 games next season. You had a good season last year because of frye and a great recruiting class this year. But please don't think that you are in the "re-load" category like Miami, Toledo, BG or NIU. Maybe in a couple of years, but not in 2005. Can't State has everyone back next season and improved in the pocket with a JUCO marvel at QB. Ohio will be back to running an offense suited to their personnel and should have beaten the Zips in each of the last two seasons if not for poor coaching and Charlie Frye. I am not trying to put you guys down, just add a sense of reality to your breakfast table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipper Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 Here's one Zip who agrees with you. Next year is going to be tough - a building year in the complete sense of the word. I will enjoy our style of play but I have very low expectations for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 I think the MAC made a smart move here. The East was already a weaker conference than the West for the past several seasons. If the league didn't replace Marshall with a strong west team, the conference would be very unbalanced for a number of years to come. A weak East that has Miami winning every year will only make Miami's already big head grow bigger and, IMO, tempt them to leave for a "Better" conference. Besides, BG is the obvious choice. BG came from the East and I think they jumped at the chance. With one of the two recent powers of the East is gone, I'm sure BG feels it will have an easier time of getting to the MACC. I don't see the I-75 rivalry being dampened that much, hate runs deep you know. Now from the Zips standpoint, this is a setback. Obviously this is gong to make things more difficult on the field and with recruiting. But, in the long run, this is a necessary step for the league and the universities involved. Someone provided a link here that showed the MAC ranked last of all the conferences in recruiting this season. If this conference is going to shed the image of being on the bottom rung, it is going to need a high level of internal competition to improve play. Just look at what Marshall did for the conference. A lopsided league makes the West teams stronger but leaves the East teams with good division records and an overall low level of play. In the end I think this is probably the best situation for the Zips. I’m very excited with what is happening at UA, but fear that quick success by JD may lead him to move on rapidly and leave us with a high point in an overall mediocre program. I would rather he build the program over a slightly longer period, build a good foundation so to speak. I think this will keep him at UA a few seasons longer. I can't say how things will turn out in '05 but I do have a LOT of faith in JD right now. Last season I thought we would give PSU a hard time and easily handle MTSU. I was in a sate of shock by the middle of Sept. where I didn’t disagree with our ESPN bottom10 ranking. JD stuck by his guns, turned the team around and we made a run. I know that we have had a lot of losses from last season, but hey, it’s college and everyone loses a good chunk of their team every year. I think we'll have a better start this year. I think our problem at the beginning of last season was the team not being accustomed to the new system. That won’t be the case this season and though I don’t expect us to be favorites for the East crown, I don’t count us out either. So in the short term this move will hurt the Zips but will help them in the long run. I think we played BG home last time, does that me we get them at Doyt Perry this year? Short drive for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy989 Posted February 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Akron and Miami slugging it out in the East in '05? Akron lost Frye, the whole offensive front, LeFall, Blackburn, and Earl, plus Fuller and a handful of guys like Basch. With no experience in the pocket or in the trenches Akron will be lucky to win 3 games next season. You had a good season last year because of frye and a great recruiting class this year. But please don't think that you are in the "re-load" category like Miami, Toledo, BG or NIU. Maybe in a couple of years, but not in 2005. Can't State has everyone back next season and improved in the pocket with a JUCO marvel at QB. Ohio will be back to running an offense suited to their personnel and should have beaten the Zips in each of the last two seasons if not for poor coaching and Charlie Frye. I am not trying to put you guys down, just add a sense of reality to your breakfast table. Anybody else as surprised as I am at the number of MAC fans from other boards finding their way to ZipsNation? MAC Daddy says that we're not reloading like Miami, Toledo, BG or NIU... Read the post.. I never said we were reloading. The scenario I was looking at only had one of these teams in the East.. Miami. And yes, the Zips need to replace players. But this isn't your MAC Daddy's Zips program anymore... Getsy already knows the system and now the whole team has another year of experience with it. And JD coaches to put the Zips in positions to win games. The bottom line is that without BG it was going to be Akron and Miami... Now BG will run away with it... As for Can't. flushes will not be a factor. They had their run and are done. Cribbs magic is gone and no JUCO superstar is going to save the Flushes from their "return to bottom feeder glory." Ohio now has a name coach.. that should be good for, let's see how many wins??? Zero. Still the same Bobcats. Return to running game.. Wasn't Solich the guru who was to make Nebraska a modern, passing offense?? Uh-huh... By the way, MAC Daddy, you of all people should know that "should have beat the Zips." counts for nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 13, 2005 Report Share Posted February 13, 2005 Akron lost Frye, the whole offensive front, LeFall, Blackburn, and Earl, plus Fuller and a handful of guys like Basch. With no experience in the pocket or in the trenches Akron will be lucky to win 3 games next season. You had a good season last year because of frye and a great recruiting class this year. But please don't think that you are in the "re-load" category like Miami, Toledo, BG or NIU. Maybe in a couple of years, but not in 2005. Wow, this post points to a group of seniors who only produced 19 Division I wins in four years as a group we can not replace. What a load of crap. There is not a player on that list who can't be replaced. The key to the success Akron had in the last part of 2004 was not the play of Frye, Blackburn, Basch, etc., it was the play of Biggs and the development of the running game. Why do people point to OU as an upstart program? Frank Solich? Are you kidding me? The only reason the guy took the OU job is that no other school in their right mind would hire the guy. What would his recruiting slogan be: "Come live in Athens and play for the guy who ran Nebraska into the ground". Getting OU at home next year should be a guarantee win for Akron. I would bet that on over half the college fan internet boards across the country, they are filled with hand wringers who think their seniors can't be replaced. What a lack of foresight...and that goes for some of you on this board. Every freaking four years the players change!!! If you are sitting around wringing your hands worrying about how we are going to replace that bunch of seniors who gave us no real success over the past four years, STOP. Young players improve from year to year as they mature. Many of the kids who may appeared to have no promise last year will all of the sudden be much better after off season workouts, spring practice and two a days. Look forward, not back. The past is too ugly. I'll take my chances with the next group of players......JDs players. Finally, the post mentions "reloading". We are not going to reload, we are going to improve. Six wins minimum should not be out of reach for the players next year. I've done this before, but I'll do it again. OU, Can't, Army, Buffalo and MTSU should all be wins. Split with Miami and BUGS. Throw in a win against another cross conference team and we have six wins. Why not beat both Miami and BUGS? Is Josh Betts so good we can not beat them? Miami is also losing really good players who actually took them to a Bowl game. I have no idea what BUGS has or doesn't have, but if we get them at home, we could beat them as well. Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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