skip-zip Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I can't believe I forgot to bring this up...but....On Saturday at the CMU game, Ronnie was in street clothes.On Tuesday at EMU, I swear I heard Steve French say that he was "dressed" for the game.Did I hear correctly? Is this a good sign that his return to play is getting closer? Does anyone know anything that they can add to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I can't believe I forgot to bring this up...but....On Saturday at the CMU game, Ronnie was in street clothes.On Tuesday at EMU, I swear I heard Steve French say that he was "dressed" for the game.Did I hear correctly? Is this a good sign that his return to play is getting closer? Does anyone know anything that they can add to this?At this point, it might be better to get him a medical redshirt, which would give him a third freshman season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 If he can help .. and earn the time .. I say let him play. He's been sitting for almost 2 years .. if he earns the minutes .. let's let him play.Additional perimeter defense and stable ball handling can't hurt this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Uakronkid...This is what surprised me.....if the medical redshirt is a serious consideration....I'm wondering why he was "dressed"?. Zipwatcher...that's the way I'm leaning. After making him sit for the better part of two seasons, how do you make him sit all the way until November? That would be nearly 3 years without playing competitive basketball (well...with the exception of a few games early this year). And is the medical redshirt even a sure thing if he doesn't play? And I really believe he'd be our best ballhandler...which we really needed BOTH this season and last season. Ok...I have to admit...I'm just really anxious to see him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Whatever is best for him and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Has anybody heard any updates on Ronnie? How likely would a medical redshirt and 6th year of eligibility be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 At this point in time we may as well look for another redshirt for Ronnie, wouldn't you guys agree? We've got 4 strong guards (albeit Humpty and McClanahan are true freshmen) and a medical redshirt would make Ronnie a senior along w/ Zeke (which was the drawback of burning McClanahan's redshirt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 There are only 7 games left in the regular season. Might as well redshirt him once again.Hang in there Ronnie. You'll be the most veteran freshman in the country next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 As I understand it, the University would have to petition that overbloated organization [no, not congress] the other one the NCAA for another red shirt year, then that bureauacry will make a decision. It has been done in th past, but I've only heard of it being done for BC$ schools; maybe because the media [and NCAA] only care about the BC$ schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 As I understand it, the University would have to petition that overbloated organization [no, not congress] the other one the NCAA for another red shirt year, then that bureauacry will make a decision. It has been done in th past, but I've only heard of it being done for BC$ schools; maybe because the media [and NCAA] only care about the BC$ schools. I'm not going to defend the NCAA in most situations, but they do have some pretty clear guidelines on this. The injury has to be documented (complications from compartment syndrome sounds good enough to me) and the player has to have played in less than a certain percentage of the teams games for the season. I can't remember the percentage, but I think Razor a couple weeks ago had done the math and figured out that he would be eligible for the medical redshirt. At this point there is no reason to rush Ronnie back. Humpty has settled down at the PG and McNees and Roberts can handle the ball too. With McClanahan we've got the 4 guards that we need. Let him get fully recovered from this thing and hopefully he can compete for a spot in the rotation next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I spent my working life dodging bureaucrats and their edicts, mostly effectively, but you have to knowhow to play the system, it's still up to a bureaucratic board to make the decision. I don't trust bureaucrats at any level, they love to excrcise chicken sh** authority and there is no appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipAlumn Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I spent my working life dodging bureaucrats and their edicts, mostly effectively, but you have to knowhow to play the system, it's still up to a bureaucratic board to make the decision. I don't trust bureaucrats at any level, they love to excrcise chicken sh** authority and there is no appeal. :thumb: What he said ........ After 30+ years in business, only a couple of steps away from a Vice Presidency, I am in complete agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 As I understand it, the University would have to petition that overbloated organization [no, not congress] the other one the NCAA for another red shirt year, then that bureauacry will make a decision. It has been done in th past, but I've only heard of it being done for BC$ schools; maybe because the media [and NCAA] only care about the BC$ schools. My understanding is Alex Allen of the football zips has received a 6th yr due to medical redshirt so it is possible. But it does lock up what would have been an available scholarship in 2012/2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 As I understand it, the University would have to petition that overbloated organization [no, not congress] the other one the NCAA for another red shirt year, then that bureauacry will make a decision. It has been done in th past, but I've only heard of it being done for BC$ schools; maybe because the media [and NCAA] only care about the BC$ schools. My understanding is Alex Allen of the football zips has received a 6th yr due to medical redshirt so it is possible. But it does lock up what would have been an available scholarship in 2012/2013.Yes, but as was stated earlier in this thread, burning McClanahan's redshirt opens up another scholarship for 2012/2013, so it evens out. If I'm thinking right, that year we should have 4 scholarships available (presuming Ronnie gets his medical redshirt). One from Humpty, one from McClanahan, one from Cvetinovic and one from Swiech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 I just did a little research and came up with the following on NCAA Medical Hardship Waiver Bylaw 14.2.4 as it applies to team (not individual) sports:* A student-athlete must participate in no more than 30 percent of the team's regular season games in order to guarantee an extra year of athletic eligibility.* A similar request is to waive the five-year period of eligibility and extend a sixth year. This requires two out of five years of circumstances beyond the control of the student-athlete. An incapacitating medical circumstance would be one example of a qualifying condition. A voluntary redshirt year would not.Steward competed in only 6 of the Zips 31 regular season games, which is less than 20%, so he easily qualifies on this point.On the second point, as long as he has documented medical reasons for missing both this and last season, he should qualify for a sixth year of eligibility. But if last year's redshirt was not documented as a medical, the NCAA could deny a sixth year.As desperately as the Zips needed a pure point guard last season, I'm pretty sure that he had a medical redshirt and that it was not voluntary. So as long as all of the medical documentation is in place, there should be no reason for the NCAA to deny him a sixth year of eligibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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