Former UT RB Tied to Point-Shaving Scheme

[tbozeglav]

Link to article on ESPN.com: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4093573bad PR for the MAC?

[ZachTheZip]

This has been going on for a while now. It's not really bad PR for the MAC as much as it is bad PR for Toledo. It's an internal thing for the Toledo Athletic Department, but the more this drags on the worse things will be for them. Between this and BG thinking about dropping to D-II or dropping football altogether, it has to be scaring recruits away from playing college ball in NW Ohio. Akron needs to take advantage of that.

[Z.I.P.]

Between this and BG thinking about dropping to D-II or dropping football altogether, it has to be scaring recruits away from playing college ball in NW Ohio. Akron needs to take advantage of that.

Holy spumoni! This deserves a thread of its own. Never heard about M Thomas' decision in Bearcatland. And at BG, soccer could be dead! (not to mention hockey) You all should know what THAT means -- the MAC will have to find another pretender (is there another Florida Atlantic, or Hartwick out there?), or not be able to compete in a sport where it has a favorite to win a national title. Does the MAC have a Commish yet??

[ZachTheZip]

Between this and BG thinking about dropping to D-II or dropping football altogether, it has to be scaring recruits away from playing college ball in NW Ohio. Akron needs to take advantage of that.

Holy spumoni! This deserves a thread of its own. Never heard about M Thomas' decision in Bearcatland. And at BG, soccer could be dead! (not to mention hockey) You all should know what THAT means -- the MAC will have to find another pretender (is there another Florida Atlantic, or Hartwick out there?), or not be able to compete in a sport where it has a favorite to win a national title. Does the MAC have a Commish yet??

If BG drops men's soccer (very, very likely), the MAC still would have the requisite 6 teams in order to maintain an auto-berth to the NCAA tournament. Still, I think the new comissioner could drop men's soccer as a MAC sport in order to save money.Mack Rhoades: get us into the C-USA/Big East for soccer! Please, before it's too late.

[GP1]

Thanks for the link.Two things. First, Cartwright was the President (I think) at Can't State when they eliminated hockey.Second, this public discussion is a recruiting disaster for BG football and could negatively impact the program for years. They just poured a ton of money into their stadium/practice area.

[ZachTheZip]

Second, this public discussion is a recruiting disaster for BG football and could negatively impact the program for years. They just poured a ton of money into their stadium/practice area.

There are only two possibilities I can think of here: 1. Cartwright is completely clueless when it comes to sports and doesn't realise that the mere mention of dropping football could severely hurt the program.2. She mentioned it on purpose in order to create a decline in the program thanks to worse recruiting leading to worse performance leading to worse fan support. She can't just drop football because she would lose out on a very large percentage of donations to the university, but if you take the program down slowly to the point where it is an embarrasment you just might be able to drum up some support to move down to 1-AA.I think she's just clueless. Why BG hired her after what she did at Can't is a mystery.As for Toledo and the point-shaving thing, what's bad is that they keep implying that there are more names to be named.

[GP1]

Second, this public discussion is a recruiting disaster for BG football and could negatively impact the program for years. They just poured a ton of money into their stadium/practice area.

There are only two possibilities I can think of here: 1. Cartwright is completely clueless when it comes to sports and doesn't realise that the mere mention of dropping football could severely hurt the program.2. She mentioned it on purpose in order to create a decline in the program thanks to worse recruiting leading to worse performance leading to worse fan support. She can't just drop football because she would lose out on a very large percentage of donations to the university, but if you take the program down slowly to the point where it is an embarrasment you just might be able to drum up some support to move down to 1-AA.I think she's just clueless. Why BG hired her after what she did at Can't is a mystery.As for Toledo and the point-shaving thing, what's bad is that they keep implying that there are more names to be named.

Good points.When she destroyed the hockey team at Can't State, the team was average, but not terrible. I love hockey. The games were entertaining and they were in a good conference with tOSU, Michigan, Notre Dame, BGSU, Lake Superior State, Miami, etc. There was an off campus fight or something that gave here the excuse for ending the program.

[ZippyRulz]

I think the Can't hockey program was terminated as a result of severe NCAA sanctions as a result of out-of-control hazing shenanigans. And probably also for Title IX and budgetary reasons. I definitely got the impression when Cartwright was at Can't State that she was no friend of the (mens) sport of football. Maybe they're just threatening to drop football to shakedown the alumni for more athletics donations.