infofan Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 RPI Rk Mid-American Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS RPI as of 1/29/10East DivisionRPI Rk Mid-American Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS 71 Can't St. 4-2 12-7 0.5688 83 0.5412 112 Buffalo 3-3 9-7 0.5363 121 0.5207 114 Akron 4-2 13-6 0.5350 182 0.4933 133 Bowling Green 3-3 9-8 0.5203 173 0.4955 135 Ohio 2-4 10-9 0.5187 116 0.5229 165 Miami (OH) 4-3 7-13 0.5035 41 0.5648 West Division 126 West. Michigan 3-3 10-8 0.5233 117 0.5218 205 Cent. Michigan 4-2 8-9 0.4752 273 0.4545 206 Ball St. 4-3 9-9 0.4736 228 0.4739 239 Northern Illinois 4-2 8-10 0.4561 255 0.4619 243 East. Michigan 2-4 8-9 0.4538 293 0.4454 320 Toledo 0-6 2-17 0.3927 158 0.5007 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Nice jump after WMU, but Toledo wont help us much! With this is mind I predict our bracketbuster opponen (as selected on sunday) will be either Creighton, Drexel, or Fairfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Another example of why I like the Pomeroy ratings better than RPI. The Pomeroy system rates Can't lower than the RPI system, rewards the Zips more for their win at WMU and punishes Buffalo much more severely for its 3 straight losses:East Can't St. 90Akron 97Ohio 117 Miami 144 Buffalo 174Bowling Green 198West Western Michigan 125Central Michigan 211Eastern Michigan 224Ball St. 225Northern Illinois 237Toledo 335Full Pomeroy MAC Ratings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Im not familiar with pomeroys, except that they seem very close to the Sagarins from USAtoday. Thanks for the update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 The more time I spend looking at the finer points on the Pomeroy site, the more I appreciate the thought that goes into his system. But no single system is perfect, so it pays to shop around and see what everyone is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 The highly respected "Bracket Board" has the Zips, Cant and Canada as three of the eleven TV games.The B/B has the Zips playing at George Mason.The Bracket Board web site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 The highly respected "Bracket Board" has the Zips, Cant and Canada as three of the eleven TV games.The B/B has the Zips playing at George Mason.The Bracket Board web siteIt may be highly respected, but at the moment it has Iona hosting two games:Old Dominion at Northern IowaSiena at ButlerWichita State at Utah StateLA Tech at VCUWilliam & Mary at Can't StateWestern Carolina at NortheasternCollege of Charleston at IonaNevada at Murray StateAkron at George MasonBuffalo at IonaNew Mexico State at PacificI think the Zips do have a shot at a TV game, I'd love to see them come down this way and play George Mason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Updated as of sun jan 31st, 09:30RPI Rk Mid-American Conf All RPI SOS Rk SOS change from midweekEast Division 67 Can't St. 5-2 13-7 0.5714 83 0.5408 up 4 101 Buffalo 4-3 10-7 0.5432 120 0.5192 up 11 119 Akron 5-2 14-6 0.5297 206 0.4814 down 5 136 Ohio 2-4 10-9 0.5211 112 0.5261 down 1 150 Bowling Green 3-4 9-9 0.5093 170 0.4969 down 17 151 Miami (OH) 5-3 8-13 0.5091 41 0.5633 up 14West Division 133 West. Michigan 3-4 10-9 0.5221 107 0.5272 down 7 185 Cent. Michigan 5-2 9-9 0.4890 261 0.4584 up 20 209 Ball St. 4-3 9-9 0.4726 218 0.4766 down 3 247 Northern Illinois 4-3 8-11 0.4501 251 0.4653 down 8 248 East. Michigan 2-5 8-10 0.4463 297 0.4419 down 5 316 Toledo 0-7 2-18 0.3971 145 0.5073 up 4--------------------------------------------------------------------------------2008-2009 Mid-American standings POMEROYS 2010 StandingsIncludes games through Saturday, January 30Team Overall Conf Proj Pomeroy AdjO AdjD AdjT Next Game East Can't St. 14-7 5-2 12-4 .7431 94 106.1 99 96.8 109 68.1 169 Mon, vs 246 Northern Illinois (W, 82-65, 94%) Akron 15-6 5-2 12-4 .7187 101 101.8 148 93.9 74 67.8 182 Mon, vs 228 Eastern Michigan (W, 73-60, 91%) Miami OH 8-13 5-3 9-7 .5674 142 102.2 145 99.8 152 61.8 336 Thu, at 119 Western Michigan (L, 66-61, 28%) Buffalo 11-7 4-3 9-7 .5056 166 102.6 140 102.4 211 72.1 25 Mon, vs 119 Western Michigan (W, 76-75, 52%) Bowling Green 10-9 3-4 7-9 .3574 217 95.0 255 99.9 157 65.0 284 Mon, vs 331 Toledo (W, 66-52, 94%) Ohio 11-9 2-4 8-8 .6379 120 101.0 163 96.1 98 72.0 27 Sun, vs 226 Ball St. (W, 66-56, 87%) West Central Michigan 10-9 5-2 10-6 .4413 189 95.3 249 97.3 114 66.1 251 Thu, vs 166 Buffalo (W, 70-68, 60%) Ball St. 10-9 4-3 8-8 .3280 226 89.7 307 95.4 88 63.1 322 Sun, at 120 Ohio (L, 66-56, 13%) Northern Illinois 8-11 4-3 7-9 .2686 246 97.4 214 106.3 268 70.7 52 Mon, at 94 Can't St. (L, 82-65, 6%) Western Michigan 11-9 3-4 9-7 .6388 119 102.2 143 97.2 113 69.5 102 Mon, at 166 Buffalo (L, 76-75, 48%) Eastern Michigan 10-10 2-5 5-11 .3156 228 95.7 242 102.3 209 68.7 136 Mon, at 101 Akron (L, 73-60, 9%) Toledo 3-18 0-7 1-15 .0647 331 87.1 326 109.9 313 64.3 299 Mon, at 217 Bowling Green (L, 66-52, 6%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Great to see the RPI and Pomeroy ratings side by side, and compare how they treat various wins and losses.Pomeroy had predicted that Can't should be favored at home by 5 or 6 over WMU, and obviously did not reward Can't for winning a squeaker by only 1, whereas the RPI formula did reward Can't.The Pomeroy Ratings Explanation makes a good read to understand how he comes up with his numbers using the pythagorean calculation:Pomeroy Ratings Explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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