Is the MAC the same as Pluto

[GP1]

Personally, I'd like to see where UA football is after the next three seasons. I think that three years is long enough to show a results trend from recent investments.

I think three years is a good time period as well.

I think during that time period, the University needs to look at all options internally, with the MAC membership and non-BCS schools. If things are not working out in the next three years, changes will need to be made. At least if they talk about a division between I-AA and I-A now, some thought will have been put into it before it actually happens. A fourth year of transition may be needed, but it could happen.

My biggest concern is we do nothing and allow ourselves to become an even further victim of the BCS schools. If they create their own division on their terms, we are screwed as we will have had no say. If we create our own division on our own, we dicide what we look like and who we are going to go to bat with. Let's do things on our terms.

If you can't see that there are going to be drastic changes in college football in the next 4-5 years, you either choose to ignore the change or you simply aren't paying attention. College football is changing rapidly and will continue. Nebraska decided to take the bull by the horns and decide their own fate. Colorado did the same thing. We and the rest of the non-BCS schools need to dictate our moves.

[MaxZIP]

Personally, I'd like to see where UA football is after the next three seasons. I think that three years is long enough to show a results trend from recent investments.

I think three years is a good time period as well.

I think during that time period, the University needs to look at all options internally, with the MAC membership and non-BCS schools. If things are not working out in the next three years, changes will need to be made. At least if they talk about a division between I-AA and I-A now, some thought will have been put into it before it actually happens. A fourth year of transition may be needed, but it could happen.

My biggest concern is we do nothing and allow ourselves to become an even further victim of the BCS schools. If they create their own division on their terms, we are screwed as we will have had no say. If we create our own division on our own, we dicide what we look like and who we are going to go to bat with. Let's do things on our terms.

If you can't see that there are going to be drastic changes in college football in the next 4-5 years, you either choose to ignore the change or you simply aren't paying attention. College football is changing rapidly and will continue. Nebraska decided to take the bull by the horns and decide their own fate. Colorado did the same thing. We and the rest of the non-BCS schools need to dictate our moves.

Is the non-BCS component of FBS football already a division within a division of College Football? Why make it official in it is not required. Sure BCS schools have an undeniable advantage over MAC, WAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West, and C-USA teams but they spend much more as well. Your approach of “going out on our own terms” is similar to preemptively quitting when you know you are about to be fired. There is no indication that FBS plans to cut ties with the rest of FBS. In fact, they are already fighting off challenges that the organization is a monopolistic organization. BCS teams could gain a little I guess by not having to tip out the 5 lowly conferences but they would in turn not be supporting a competitive pool from which to purchase some quality games and purchase some wins. The BCS teams spend much more and often show larger losses than many MAC schools. Should they be forced to drop out of the BCS ranks for the sake of cutting costs?

[GP1]

Personally, I'd like to see where UA football is after the next three seasons. I think that three years is long enough to show a results trend from recent investments.

I think three years is a good time period as well.

I think during that time period, the University needs to look at all options internally, with the MAC membership and non-BCS schools. If things are not working out in the next three years, changes will need to be made. At least if they talk about a division between I-AA and I-A now, some thought will have been put into it before it actually happens. A fourth year of transition may be needed, but it could happen.

My biggest concern is we do nothing and allow ourselves to become an even further victim of the BCS schools. If they create their own division on their terms, we are screwed as we will have had no say. If we create our own division on our own, we dicide what we look like and who we are going to go to bat with. Let's do things on our terms.

If you can't see that there are going to be drastic changes in college football in the next 4-5 years, you either choose to ignore the change or you simply aren't paying attention. College football is changing rapidly and will continue. Nebraska decided to take the bull by the horns and decide their own fate. Colorado did the same thing. We and the rest of the non-BCS schools need to dictate our moves.

Is the non-BCS component of FBS football already a division within a division of College Football? Why make it official in it is not required. Sure BCS schools have an undeniable advantage over MAC, WAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West, and C-USA teams but they spend much more as well. Your approach of “going out on our own terms” is similar to preemptively quitting when you know you are about to be fired. There is no indication that FBS plans to cut ties with the rest of FBS. In fact, they are already fighting off challenges that the organization is a monopolistic organization. BCS teams could gain a little I guess by not having to tip out the 5 lowly conferences but they would in turn not be supporting a competitive pool from which to purchase some quality games and purchase some wins.

Make it official so they can't co-mingle.

[Wally B]

All well and good but......... bullsh*t!

Yes i too understand what you are saying i just think your logic is bunk....

Why is there mention of the regions atributes? A: Because it has long been held against us but is now an attribute!

You assume that just because a school has BCS status they have the "resources" to compete... That belies the fact that schools like Washington St have languished for years. It pays no heed to the fears of Iowa St, Baylor and the like that they will get left behind in the shuffel and lose their "bcs" status. How will they compete then? Probably about as well as they do now.

I assume you enjoyed our victories over NCState and Syracuse? Do you remember the 3-2 halftime score in Columbus? How about fellow MACers Toledo over Penn State and Michigan and NIU over Alabama? That's why we play the games. If the odd's are stacked against us then the victory is that much sweeter! Last time i checked NIU doesn't have a MAC chmpionship yet, should they give up too?

Play to the strengths of soccer and mbb? First i don't think football has dragged our futbol program down, they seem to be doing fine. And if mbb was a strength we would have used it to parlay a bcs invite ala UConn....

Finally, how much attention do you actually give to the fcs/d1aa? Outside of the occasional update from Y-town do you really know more about the So-Con or MAAC? Do you really treat their football "playoffs" like March Madness or do you just watch / catch highlights from the last round or two?

Finally, what was the purpose of thread and its' timing?? Seriously, did you honestly wait the entire summer slow season to play Debbie Downer the week before Syracuse arrives on campus and iCoach tkaes the field for the first time? Thanks

This rhetoric is as old and tired as the RubberBowl

[Wally B]

Make it official so they can't co-mingle.

Great, move us down and limit the cometition so we can play our games in Namby Pamby Land!