sgm405 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Let's say Akron and Can't both win their next games and Akron beats Can't in the finale...any idea what happens? Co-Conference champs? Tie-break? Any idea on how seeding would go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozips19 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 i would think that we'd get the tie break due to the fact that we didn't loose a game to the west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 ditto to gozips19, but i'm just guessing that it's the same (or similar) to the tie break we won the east in football with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 I think that we lose the tiebreakers. Isn't the next tiebreaker after head to head, record in the East divsion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Tiebreaking Procedures from the MAC Tourney WebsiteAll ties will be broken in the order in which they occur, from top to bottom, in the standings. When comparing tied teams against positions lower in the standings, which are also tied, those lower-tied positions will be considered as a single position for purposes of comparison. (Example: Team A and Team B, who tied for second place, would compare against Team X and Team Y, who tied for 6th as follows: Team A would compare its combined record against both X and Y against Team B's combined record against both X and Y.) 1. Head-to-head competition 2. Winning percentage* vs. ranked conference teams (top to bottom, regardless of division; vs. common opponents, regardless of the number of times played) 3. Coin flip * Winning percentage is used instead of record because of situations where teams do not play each other thesame number of times. Therefore, a team that is 1-0 (1.000) would win the tiebreaker over a team that is 1-1 (.500). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuby_UAkron Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Someone explain the 2nd tiebreaker after head-to-head. Does it mean that you compare the two schools record against the next best team or all common opponents combined? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 In case of a tie with Can't for the best record, the second tie breaker would start comparing Akron/Can't records (in percentage) with the next highest ranked opponents in the overall league until the tie is broken. Unfortunately, this tie breaker for the #1 seed goes to Can't right now due to their 2-0 record versus Miami. We need an Ohio victory next week @Can't for any chance at the #1 seed.Most probable finish has the Zips tying with Can't at 15-3 and sharing the regular season title but losing the #1 seed as mentioned. Remember, this is not all that bad - the #2 seed in the tourney is from the West putting them in our bracket if the regular season plays out this way.Below is a breakdown from an Ohio fan. Since the work is done, I'll just post it and say thanks to him. 1) Can't St. 14-2 2) WMU 10-6 3) Akron 13-3 4) Miami 12-4 5) NIU 9-6 6) OHIO 9-7 7) Toledo 7-8 8) Buffalo 6-9 9) Ball State 5-10 (1-0 vs. BGSU) 10) BGSU 5-10 (0-1 vs. Ball St.) 11) EMU 2-13 12) CMU 1-14 Sunday's match-ups: BGSU @ Buffalo Ball St. @ Toledo EMU @ NIU If the season ended today: CMU @ WMU EMU @ Ohio BGSU @ Toledo Ball St. @ Buffalo Remaining Schedules: Akron: @Buffalo, Can't NIU: EMU, @Ball St., @WMU Can't: Ohio, @Akron Miami: @BGSU, Buffalo Ohio: @Can't, BGSU WMU: @Toledo, NIU Buffalo: BGSU, Akron, @Miami Toledo: Ball St, WMU, @CMU BGSU: @Buffalo, Miami, @Ohio Ball St: @Toledo, NIU, @EMU EMU: @NIU, @CMU, Ball St CMU: EMU, Toledo Based on the remaining schedules, (Ohio fan) predicts the following final standings: 1) Can't 15-3 (Wins tie-breaker with Akron by virtue of 2-0 vs. Miami) 2) WMU 11-7 (1-1 vs. NIU, 1-0 vs. Miami) 3) Akron 15-3 (loses tie-breaker with Can't by virtue of 1-1 vs. Miami) 4) Miami 14-4 5) NIU 11-7 (1-1 vs. WMU, 0-1 vs. Miami) 6) Ohio 10-8 (1-0 vs. Toledo) 7) Toledo 10-8 (0-1 vs. Ohio) 8) Buffalo 7-11 9) Ball St. 6-12 10) BGSU 5-13 11) EMU 4-14 12) CMU 1-17 That would make the first round matchups: CMU @ OHIO EMU @ NIU BGSU @ Toledo BSU @ Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Thanks for the post. It would be nice for attendance to have a final four of OU, Akron, Can't, and Miami. Looks like OU's chance of sliding to 7 is doubtful.Also, kudos to the league for scheduling this year. Having the last 10 out of 12 interdivsion with so many critical match ups the last 2 weeks of the year has really added to the excitement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I posed the same question on the MACBBS, and pretty much got the same answer that Pouch gave. Basically, they compare how you did against common opponents, one at a time, from the top of the rankings down and the first discrepancy breaks the tie. So we would start with Miami. We were 1-1 against the Redhawks. They were 2-0. Game over. We lose the tiebreaker.I kind of think they should compare records from the bottom UP. Which is more meaningful, that they swept Miami where we could only manage a split, or that they chunked one (at home, no less) against Bowling Green? You should be able to take care of the weak sisters of the conference before comparing records against the stronger teams of the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 If attendance is what you're interested in, replace Fiami with Buffalo. Bulls fans came in droves last year and would probably do the same again this go around. Not many RedHawk fans bother to get to the Qund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleacher Bum Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I remember Buffalo fans packing an entire section with some overflow at the Q last year. And they were pretty into it. They were sitting in the upper deck, but sounded like they were right on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMiami Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 The posts that claim you go by record against common opponents, one opponent at a time are correct.However I do not believe this goes by team w/ best record. I believe it's done by seeding, meaning that your records vs WMU/NIU should be investigated since one of those teams will end up with the 2-seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 The posts that claim you go by record against common opponents, one opponent at a time are correct.However I do not believe this goes by team w/ best record. I believe it's done by seeding, meaning that your records vs WMU/NIU should be investigated since one of those teams will end up with the 2-seed. I wish you were right, 'cause Akron could benefit, but the italicized portion of the below makes me think otherwise:2. Winning percentage* vs. ranked conference teams (top to bottom, regardless of division; vs. common opponents, regardless of the number of times played) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMiami Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Gotchya. That could be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGates Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's not! If K ent wins tomorrow night, we wrap up the #1 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's not! If K ent wins tomorrow night, we wrap up the #1 seed. Alley Can'tThis is old news, already posted This is still a Zips board, notice the logos and colors have yet to change - You are now up to almost 30 posts........:iws:Please find a home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 It's not! If K ent wins tomorrow night, we wrap up the #1 seed. Um, yeah. That's what I, and then the Miami guy afterwards, were saying. Either you misunderstood it or you skipped several posts.......Can't read, Can't write...they make it so easy, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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