Spin Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I expected to see another list of excuses. We all know that KIDS play soccer, and that's been acknowledged by me personally on many occassions. The media covers what is popular to the public. Plain and simple. I'll wait for this amazing emergence of soccer in this country that people have been trying to predict for the last 50 years. I heard (said) the same things about baseball and American football too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I believe a bad NHL team would be more popular than a bad NBA team in Cleveland. None of this can be quantified with stats, of course. But I also know stats can be arranged to prove anything.Are you old enough to remember the Cleveland Barons? My dad took me to a few games as a toddler. The NHL moved to Cleveland from Oakland in 1976. The Barons never came close to filling the arena in their two years in Cleveland. The team's home opener only drew 8,900 fans. They only drew 10,000 or more fans in seven out of 40 home games, and attendance was actually worse than it had been in Oakland. Fearing that two franchises were on the verge of folding, in 1978 the league granted approval for the Barons to merge with another financially troubled team, the Minnesota North Stars. The North Stars were the surviving team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Local people want to attach themselves to a local team that wins. We all want local pride. The reason why that school in Columbus (ohio state) has so many fans here is because they win and have the word Ohio attached to it. That name gives the locals a sense of pride because they win. We've witnessed UAkron soccer set attendance records year after year because of winning. This trend will continue as Akron continues to win. The nice thing about soccer is the atmosphere created by the fans. Some people probably go to the games to witness or be a part of that atmosphere. This helps bring up the odds that someone will return for another game. Akron is doing their part by winning. The winning ways are bringing in new people. It's our job as fans to create an atmosphere that hooks them in. My plan with Rubber City Brigade is to work with the Ak Rowdies with creating a pro-like atmosphere for Zips soccer games. We're planning Tifos and will be tailgating for every home game. AK Rowdies will be for students, RCB will be for everyone. Let's not worry about soccer vs baseball and focus on what we can control. Let's grow soccer in Akron even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 We've witnessed UAkron soccer set attendance records year after year because of winning. This trend will continue as Akron continues to win. I'll presume you are hoping for a miracle to happen in which OSWho decides to play AT Akron again this year. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 @Spin, stats are nothing more than numbers used to quantify trends. Stats have to be correctly interpreted to produce accurate conclusions. But so do trends. Stats, trends, or almost anything can be arranged to try to prove almost anything. Caveat emptor. Strongly held beliefs are the hardest to disprove because true believers tend to resist considering that their faith might be built on incomplete or inaccurate data or analysis. While I respect the beliefs of others, I'm not convinced by anyone else's faith. Again, I have no interest in trying to prove anything about soccer, hockey or baseball, or in trying to win a debate. I have more questions than answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'll presume you are hoping for a miracle to happen in which OSWho decides to play AT Akron again this year. Good luck with that. You've questioned this before and I responded. It appears you refuse to believe the WVU game has potential to break the 6,000 mark when it's going to be played a couple hrs after the football team finishes their game against Western Michigan at the Info. There's also very good odds the Zips will be ranked #1 in the country at that point. With your attitude, you should take all your personal finances and invest it in the SPXU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 You've questioned this before and I responded. It appears you refuse to believe the WVU game has potential to break the 6,000 mark when it's going to be played a couple hrs after the football team finishes their game against Western Michigan at the Info. There's also very good odds the Zips will be ranked #1 in the country at that point. With your attitude, you should take all your personal finances and invest it in the SPXU. That would be correct. We only drew 3,200 to watch us play WVU in 2010, during the NCAA tournament, in the middle of a national championship run. Now, based on that, tell me why it sounds so crazy that someone is telling you that your prediction is unrealistic? It's not OSWho, and they couldn't break 6,000 in September. Do you think WVU would be a bigger draw than Cowlumbus State, when the game is in late October? Are you also forgetting about all of the OSWho honks that live around here, and all of the fans that they brought up here last year? In addition, we played a late October home soccer game on the same day as a home football game last year, against one of the most renowned programs in college soccer. The attendance was "announced" as only 2,900 people. I actually look forward to your attendance predictions. It's good entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Are you old enough to remember the Cleveland Barons? My dad took me to a few games as a toddler. The NHL moved to Cleveland from Oakland in 1976. The Barons never came close to filling the arena in their two years in Cleveland. The team's home opener only drew 8,900 fans. They only drew 10,000 or more fans in seven out of 40 home games, and attendance was actually worse than it had been in Oakland. Fearing that two franchises were on the verge of folding, in 1978 the league granted approval for the Barons to merge with another financially troubled team, the Minnesota North Stars. The North Stars were the surviving team. I remember the Barons very well. They moved in August and the management had no time to advertise the team. They were also broke, after failing in Oakland, so they couldn't advertise if they had time to. It was in such sad shape it missed payroll. The lease with the Coliseum was the kicker. They got no concessions, no parking, no money from the loges. The lease made it impossible to break even with a major league team. The new AHL Barons found out, it doesn't work for minor league teams either. And that's the same reason Akron's USFL team doesn't want to play at the Info. YOU CAN'T BREAK EVEN. That is why the Monsters thrive where the other teams couldn't, the owner of the team owns the arena. BTW, they were third in the AHL in attendance with a 10th place team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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