How close are we to a split?

[Valpo Zip]

This article is a month old:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/...e-autonomy-ncaa

And then this one yesterday:

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/201...ml#incart_river

I don't mind the split. It will make Football better without the 4 money games every. I think a Midmajor only NCAA tournament of say 32 teams will be amazing to watch. Unfortunately, our soccer program will probably hurt.

[GoZips]

I think it is time to get out your coloring books and Golden Books. There is a fable (probably from Aesop) about the goose

that laid the golden eggs. The NCAA and exceptionally greedy Pig (<burp>) schools again trying to commandeer the trough

of plenty.

Carving out a huge (i.e. bloated) piece of the pie will lead to the collapse of college athletics. How long before the Pig schools

decide to lope off the back enders? Ten years, twenty, less? How long before there are only forty important programs? The

death of the greedy NFL would soon follow. The NFL talent pool would evaporate.

Yeah, I am a "doom and gloom"er. Yes, we should kill the goose that lays the golden egg(s). <burp>

Am I joking? Not in the least. Just a short drive (even bicycle able on pleasant days) East of Akron lies the mighty Mount

Union. National champions numerous times in division triple three or something or other in football. Guess what? They do not

draw flies to their football games. What? Twenty-five hundred for home games? Frankly, who gives a rat's butt about Mount

Onion?

This is the fate of all colleges playing football outside the glorious top forty. Go for it. Kill the goose. You morons.

[Balsy]

From the article

The five power conferences of college sports want more flexibility in providing financial support to athletes.

I believe that says it all. I'm sorry, but Universities are a place of education, not sports...and not paying students to play sports and to represent an institution that they will not graduate from. It's time for educators to take back our institutions of higher education and maintain them as places of higher education. College athletics is ABSOLUTELY OUT OF CONTROL. Nothing makes it more clear to me than the fact that Penn State still has a football program.

[zen]

This is a threat to gain more political power inside the NCAA.

Of course, all good threats, in order to work, must have credibility.

But I'd say it does have some credibility, at least with the NCAA, because they don't want to lose the revenue. It probably scares the crap out of them.

So the big BCS schools will probably get their way more and more often.

What the NCAA has to look at is two things; How can it prosper and make money if the big BCS teams did leave?

...and more importantly, how much of a revenue/cost downgrade would the big BCS schools take by leaving.

Perhaps it's time for mid majors to begin to look at strategies for locking a breakaway republic from attacking it's revenue sources and blocking it from exploiting it's high public sway. In other words, being ready to lock the big BCS\ out from scheduling inside the the NCAA and forcing them to only be able to play each other. This may sound like what they want, but I think it would severely tie their hands. Here you have hundreds of schools playing each other in all the old familiar conferences, and on the other hand, a handfull of prima-donnas playing each other endlessly, clamoring for attention, as if the AFC east were begging their east coast media outlets to promote them while the rest of the NFL played along without them, then you would find that the Big BCS breakaway would get stale and lose it's vitality.

[skip-zip]

It's this simple for me....

There would be a handful of Universities that matter to most sports fans. The rest of them will not matter. I want to be among the ones that matter.

I was here when we worked hard to gain D-1 status, and later, D-1A status for football. Any move backwards at this point would suck. We've invested way too much.

[Balsy]

It's this simple for me....

There would be a handful of Universities that matter to most sports fans. The rest of them will not matter. I want to be among the ones that matter.

I was here when we worked hard to gain D-1 status, and later, D-1A status for football. Any move backwards at this point would suck. We've invested way too much.

...and we're one of the universities that matter? I'm sorry...but UA matters to me...but I don't think we'll ever "matter". State Ohio University owns way to much of the "matter" real-estate in college athletics in Ohio that we'll never matter. We're not even the ugly step child...that's OU. We're the ugly step child to the ugly step child.

Now don't get me wrong. I support the Zips, and it pains me to say that. I've said it before, I'll say it again: we must understand our market-share.

[Spin]

I think it is time to get out your coloring books and Golden Books. There is a fable (probably from Aesop) about the goose

that laid the golden eggs. The NCAA and exceptionally greedy Pig (<burp>) schools again trying to commandeer the trough

of plenty.

Carving out a huge (i.e. bloated) piece of the pie will lead to the collapse of college athletics. How long before the Pig schools

decide to lope off the back enders? Ten years, twenty, less? How long before there are only forty important programs? The

death of the greedy NFL would soon follow. The NFL talent pool would evaporate.

Yeah, I am a "doom and gloom"er. Yes, we should kill the goose that lays the golden egg(s). <burp>

Am I joking? Not in the least. Just a short drive (even bicycle able on pleasant days) East of Akron lies the mighty Mount

Union. National champions numerous times in division triple three or something or other in football. Guess what? They do not

draw flies to their football games. What? Twenty-five hundred for home games? Frankly, who gives a rat's butt about Mount

Onion?

This is the fate of all colleges playing football outside the glorious top forty. Go for it. Kill the goose. You morons.

The fact that Mount Union plays football tells me that if there are only a couple dozen FBS programs that aren't hemorrhaging money, the budgets are completely out of control.

Mount Union recruits. Within its means.

Mount Union travels. Within its means.

Mount Union doesn't require 80,000 people to buy highly expensive tickets to sustain.

Mount Union doesn't have to whore itself out to a Big Ten team to sustain.

The money problems in college football programs are within. Trying to keep up with the Jones'.

If this video doesn't make you sick... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nca...rtsillustrated/

[Balsy]

If this video doesn't make you sick... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nca...rtsillustrated/

[Zipmeister]

It's this simple for me....

There would be a handful of Universities that matter to most sports fans. The rest of them will not matter. I want to be among the ones that matter.

I was here when we worked hard to gain D-1 status, and later, D-1A status for football. Any move backwards at this point would suck. We've invested way too much.

Ah the memories. Do you remember even later when we struggled to get D2 status?

[skip-zip]

...and we're one of the universities that matter? I'm sorry...but UA matters to me...but I don't think we'll ever "matter". State Ohio University owns way to much of the "matter" real-estate in college athletics in Ohio that we'll never matter. We're not even the ugly step child...that's OU. We're the ugly step child to the ugly step child.

Now don't get me wrong. I support the Zips, and it pains me to say that. I've said it before, I'll say it again: we must understand our market-share.

Have you ever heard of the University of Cincinnati?

[Balsy]

Have you ever heard of the University of Cincinnati?

I have, but that's because I'm from Ohio. How many other people outside of this state do? And the nearest Division 1 program to Cincinnati is?...(drum roll)...University of Louisville (105 miles). OU is ( 157 miles), State Ohio is ( 109miles), University of Kentucky is (129 miles away). There's roughly a 100mile radius between Cincinnati and any other Division 1 program. If that Radius were applied to Akron, you'd have OSU, Toledo, Can't, BGSU and Akron. Cincinnati is more of a major city than Akron, and has suburbs that largely feed into it. Akron has much fewer suburbs, which also feed Cleveland and Canton.

I'm sorry but Akron isn't anywhere close to the same Market as the University of Cincinnati, as much as I'd hate to admit it. We've got to find a way to thrive in OUR MARKET, not compete in a market that we have no chance in. If we can thrive in our Market, than perhaps we can expand.

[UAZipster0305]

I have, but that's because I'm from Ohio. How many other people outside of this state do? And the nearest Division 1 program to Cincinnati is?...(drum roll)...University of Louisville (105 miles). OU is ( 157 miles), State Ohio is ( 109miles), University of Kentucky is (129 miles away). There's roughly a 100mile radius between Cincinnati and any other Division 1 program. If that Radius were applied to Akron, you'd have OSU, Toledo, Can't, BGSU and Akron. Cincinnati is more of a major city than Akron, and has suburbs that largely feed into it. Akron has much fewer suburbs, which also feed Cleveland and Canton.

I'm sorry but Akron isn't anywhere close to the same Market as the University of Cincinnati, as much as I'd hate to admit it. We've got to find a way to thrive in OUR MARKET, not compete in a market that we have no chance in. If we can thrive in our Market, than perhaps we can expand.

Aren't you neglecting Miami (Ohio) University, the University of Dayton, and Xavier University?

[Valpo Zip]

Aren't you neglecting Miami (Ohio) University, the University of Dayton, and Xavier University?

Add Wright state to that list. Also, I am not sure if 100 miles gets you to Indy as well. There you get IUPUI and Butler.

[Balsy]

Aren't you neglecting Miami (Ohio) University, the University of Dayton, and Xavier University?

That I am (Miami). Dayton, Xavier I excluded. I also excluded CSU for that matter.

However, the point remains the same....the two markets are still very different.

[Z.I.P.]

Have you ever heard of the University of Cincinnati?

Have you ever heard of THIS man? When we have produced someone like that, and win back-to-back national championship, then maybe we can compare ourselves... Until then, We Are Akron! Stand proud.