w00t Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES (1/22)Tennessee 118, Kentucky 83, Texas 69, Northern Iowa 46, Villanova 46, Texas Tech 36, Georgetown 28, Virginia Commonwealth 23, Michigan State 22, Vanderbilt 18, Southern Illinois 8, Stanford 8, Georgia Tech 7, Maryland 7, Boston College 6, UNLV 6, New Mexico State 6, Syracuse 5, Arkansas 3, George Washington 3, Akron 2, Connecticut 2, Florida State 2, Michigan 2.We're tied for #46 in the latest AP Top 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 It's about time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 At some point last year, while we were still leading the MAC east before that last week, we were up over 10 votes.A nice winning streak and I suspect we could do much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timsum1283 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 woo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 W00t: I have an embarrassingly stupid question: Where do you find the FULL listing? I can only find the top 25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 W00t: I have an embarrassingly stupid question: Where do you find the FULL listing? I can only find the top 25?I don't think there is a full list. Atleast, I have never seen it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Go to ESPN.com, go to the Men's Hoops page & click on Rankings, you'll see both full lists side by side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00t Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankingsindex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 That is great ! we now have to prove ourselves on the road. We all know that it is hard to win MAC games on the road, but i think that the MAC W teams (toledo aside) should not be very tough to beat. KD and the boys have the chance to achieve an unprecedented ranking this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheRoo Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I do go to that section on ESPN's site, I just thought there was a ranking of all D-1 schools outside of just the top 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 We just have to keep on winning...if we have a continued presence in the polls, perhaps we'll have a shot at an at-large bid if we don't end up winning the MACC.Just something to keep in mind ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 This is particularly exciting to me because we *****SHOULD***** win the next 5 relatively easily, and possibly gain some more points over the next two polls. I say "should" because we all know how NE Ohio sports go.Oh...and if we can pull one out at Toledo, then we've got OU and the bracketbuster at home. The sky is the limit, GO ZIPS!!Let me pose a question here: Zips somehow win out through the bracketbuster. That puts them at 21-4, are they in the top 25 at that point? (that'd be 12 straight wins by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Let me pose a question here: Zips somehow win out through the bracketbuster. That puts them at 21-4, are they in the top 25 at that point? (that'd be 12 straight wins by the way) I don't know if we would get enough respect, but the record would look impressive at that point and could be enough IF enough top25ers fall out from stringing up some losses.But I say, let's wins some games and worry about getting the top25 later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Let me pose a question here: Zips somehow win out through the bracketbuster. That puts them at 21-4, are they in the top 25 at that point? (that'd be 12 straight wins by the way) Nothing will get us in the top 25 this season... even if we win out the whole season and the mac tournament.However, if we do what you say and be 21-4 after the bracket buster than we probably lock an at large bid, even if we don't win it all at cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip81 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I do go to that section on ESPN's site, I just thought there was a ranking of all D-1 schools outside of just the top 25. Fear:I don't think the AP ranks them after the Top 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I do go to that section on ESPN's site, I just thought there was a ranking of all D-1 schools outside of just the top 25.Fear:I don't think the AP ranks them after the Top 25. AP voting is on points-based system. Each team is awarded a certain number of points based on what ranking the sportwriter gives them (i.e. a 1st place vote is worth much more than a 25th place vote). It usually ends up in the neighborhood of about 45-50 teams receiving votes throughout the middle of the season, hence the Zips being tied for 46th with 2 points. I think this means they likely received two 25th place votes. Breakdown of points, as well as past weeks, go HEREHope that clears it up. OH, if you're looking for a free rpi type ranking for all D-1, go HERE for 66-336 and HERE for 1-65.Hope that's what you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 This week's midmajor poll just came out, and we're 11. Ohio is 25 and the only other MAC team receiving votes is Toledo.http://www.midmajortop25.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Sure, anyone can reach the top-25 if everyone above you keeps losing. But keep something in mind....There's probably only a handful of sportswriters that have enough exposure to Akron to even consider casting a vote for us. And as you can see, you need quite a few votes to get into that #25 spot. When it's all said and done, we can't get an at-large bid with the teams we played in our non-conference schedule. Especially with the losses to Illinois-Chicago and Arkansas Little Rock. Those losses will look HUGE to the selection committee.But hey.....let's run the table and see what happens. Things should get pretty exciting over the next month. Go Zips!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I'll worry about Top 25 when we actually beat somebody. Close-but-no-cigar to Nevada and bad losses to Illinois-Chicago and Ark-Little Rock don't do much for at-large bid consideration. Win MAC tournament or get ready for the NIT. One game at a time right now and hope we stay healthy while doing it. Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 The remaining schedule has 13 games. IF the Zips win 11 of those 13 and win two MAC tournament games, that would give them a record of 25-7. At that point they MIGHT get an at-large bid. Notice 25-7, not not 26-7. You cannot count the win against Tiffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 GoZips88...I'm right with you on this one.Even if we can go 25-7, as bigzipguy suggests, that just means that the tournament committee will say, "ok...let's look at those 7 losses", and they'll find Arkansas Little Rock and Illinois-Chicago. That's not what you want them to see.You would think that a 25-7 record would get you into the tournament. But in order for that to happen, when you are a team like Akron, you can't have "bad losses". I remember back in the late 80's, Bob Huggins had a team that won over 20 games, and we were hoping to get into the NCAA as an at-large. But we had a couple of these bad losses. One was to Western Illinois. And everyone believed that was what sealed our fate. This is unfortunate. You should get a shot if you can win 25 games. But the tournament committee has a history of looking at teams like Akron this way. They'll let in a team from the ACC, with a record of 18-13, before they let in a team like Akron with 25 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdZip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I don't see Akron having a chance at the Top 25 because we don't play enough big name teams. Just ask the Boise State football team--it doesn't matter how good you might be, if you can't prove it, it doesn't matter. I don't think we're Top 25 anyway--too inconsistent.If we do theoretically win out, especially including the bracket buster, yes the committee will look at the losses, and they'll see UALR at the beginning of the year. They'll see the UIC loss (but will they note that Butler only beat UIC by 6?). They'll also see a 2-point loss to Nevada, which can help. They'll also see that we beat Ohio (if we win out), BG twice and Toledo once.No-one knows what the selection committee will do, but if Akron wins out and loses the MAC tournament, we would at least have a shot, and our showing in the bracket buster, depending on who it is, could decide whether or not we get in.Regardless, if we win out, that means we beat Can't State again, and that's all good because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I agree with all of you that losing to Arkansas LR at a neutral court will look bad, but i don't think that losing to UIC in chicago is that bad. Didn't they beat Butler in chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdZip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Yes, they beat them by 6 two weeks ago. I had that backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Unfortunately, Illinois-Chicago is 8-11, and Arkansas Little Rock is 8-12. They respectively have RPI's of 169 and 223. We can sit here and say "Well, UIC gave Butler a game", or anything we want. But no matter what way we look at it, those are both "bad losses" when the tournament committee looks at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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