sgm405 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Click HereSome post game thoughts from last night as well. Biiiig game this Saturday folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalrowdy Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 For as much as I'd like to say that we have a shot, we don't. It's the nature of the beast being in the MAC that ony the conference winner gets in to the big dance. Had we beat Nevada I'd say there would be an outside chance but it won't happen. Heck, look at Cincinnati last year... there are too many teams this year that have that "outside chance" due to the competition being so evenly matched. Our schedule is simply not tough enough for the committee to give us a serious look. We're getting top 25 votes because of our overall record...period. Win the MAC tourney and we're in!!! If we're the best we'll prove it in downtown Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdZip Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 From ESPN.com's Drive to 65 column yesterday:"Worth noting -- there's still probably no reasonable at-large candidate in the MAC (despite Akron's progress)..."We need to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgm405 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 To get an at-large bid I think they'd have to win out and lose a close game in the MAC Final. Obviously a tall task...but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 We can run the table for the rest of the season and not get an at-large bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 There's no way we get an at-large. Winning the MAC tournament is the only way in. Then, if we get in, we have to put together a string of upsets and get to the elite 8 (it's possible). Get some media attention. Rinse. Repeat every year until we can get out of this conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I wouldnt say it's likely, but definately not impossible. I will say for sure that it is impossible for any other team in the MAC besides us.Some points to note:Zips 18-5 (0-1)vs. rpi 1-25; (0-0) vs. rpi 26-50; (2-2) vs. rpi 51-100Zips win out: 27-5, rpi top 40. AUTO BIDZips lose in finals: 26-6, rpi top 50. at large? Only if the favorites win their conference tourneys. Let's hope it doesnt come to this, I'd love a 27-win regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 The NCAA selection committee, for as long as I can remember, will favor the major conference teams, with high schedule strength, and a 17-13 record, over a team in a conference like the MAC. Even if they do have a 25+ wins. Even if they would choose to diregard our weak schedule strength, and actually seriously take a look at us, they'll see our losses to Arkansas Little Rock, and UIC. With that said, no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgm405 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I just don't agree that there's no chance. Right now, the Zips stand at 40 in the AP Poll. If they won out (and again - very tall order) they'd be 26-6 and either ranked or right outside the Top 25 in the AP Poll. I think that would be enough to get them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I'm not going to even think about it. Why stress?IF we win out but don't win the conf.tourney, then I will piss and moan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Your SOS is going to cripple you, as well as your loss to ALR. Beating Nevada would've given you something, but that didn't happen. We're a one-horse show once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Your SOS is going to cripple you, as well as your loss to ALR. Beating Nevada would've given you something, but that didn't happen. We're a one-horse show once again. UALR and UIC are bad losses. yes. But they were also the first few games of the season. The selection committee also weighs road w/l and last 10 games in their selection criteria. A team that goes 14-2 in the MAC regular season has to have a chance if people talking about the CAA getting two teams in, I dont see why the MAC wouldnt get two if the zips ended up at 16-3 in the conference, following a loss in the finals. That being said, winning out and winning the conference would likely net us a higher seed. So I vote that we win out, and not worry about the MAC getting two bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Here's why:-The CAA leader, VCU, is in the top 50 in RPI. Drexel has wins over Syracuse and Villanova. Akron's RPI is 88 with its best win against Oral Roberts. A good win, yes, but not enough to top an at-large resume. Your OOC SOS is 291, which is brutal. And while the ALR and UIC losses came early in the season, they're still to much to overcome at this point. All you can hope to do is beat MAC teams, which won't impress the committee. The BracketBuster screwed you.-The CAA is ranked 12, the MAC 15.Yes, a 14-2 Akron team looks good. But you'll need help. Either Toledo needs to lose again or beat you in the finals because Akron has no chance of getting in ahead of Toledo should they take the regular season championship.The bottom line here is that MAC does not have the requisite respect to get a second bid. I'd love to see Akron take a second bid, but the selection committee does not look favorable upon us. Remember 2005? Miami had a very, very strong profile (43 RPI, SOS in the 70s, wins over Purdue, Xavier, WSU) and got stiffed.Trust me. You guys are pretty new to the bubble zone. You're not going to be happy come Selection Sunday if you don't win on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip81 Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 You guys are pretty new to the bubble zone. I don't know why you say that. We were on the bubble last year and have been there before.86-87, record 21-9...NIT87-88, record 21-7...No post season88-89, record 21-8...NIT05-06, record 23-10..NIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74ZIP Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 sorry..no at-large..can not play Tiffin,Niagara etc,etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 You guys are pretty new to the bubble zone. I don't know why you say that. We were on the bubble last year and have been there before.86-87, record 21-9...NIT87-88, record 21-7...No post season88-89, record 21-8...NIT05-06, record 23-10..NIT Fine, pretty new to the bubble as a MAC team. I would argue you weren't seriously on it last year, but that's splitting hairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo Zip Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 You guys are pretty new to the bubble zone. I don't know why you say that. We were on the bubble last year and have been there before.86-87, record 21-9...NIT87-88, record 21-7...No post season88-89, record 21-8...NIT05-06, record 23-10..NIT Fine, pretty new to the bubble as a MAC team. I would argue you weren't seriously on it last year, but that's splitting hairs. That's not splitting hair Ozoner, we definitely were not in the bubble last year especially after loosing to Nevada by 30 points. Our chances of getting an at large bid are like my chances of winning the lottery when i buy a ticket. You can't say that there is no chance but you don't build hopes on it.We don't have the respect yet, the MAC knows us by now and the sports writers who observe the MAC (that's not a whole lot of sports writers) also took notice, which explains the few votes we are getting in the AP poll for the last 4 weeks.In order to get the regular fan/writer to fear the roo, we have to win something. Win the MAC, go to the dance and make a nice showing... next year they will be like: "Akron, yeah... that's a good team."Another, less attractive scenario is to win the NIT or at least make it to the final four there. I don't recall any MAC team in the recent history making the final 4 in the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 I don't believe anyone considered us to be "on the bubble" last year either.Let me try to clear this up a bit....Everyone keeps focusing on the idea that we can't get an At-Large because of our conference history of not getting a 2nd team into the dance. This could very well be the case in the minds of people that are on these tournament selection committees. So, until the MAC gets to the point where it ranks higher as a conference, we can only do three things that will increase our chances.......1) Schedule stronger non-conference opponents to increase SOS.2) Post a win or two against teams that might be "At-Large Caliber" teams. 3) Don't have "bad losses" against non-conference teams that will not receive tournament consideration. Don't consider this as being negative, because I am a huge Zips fan. But we accomplished none of the above. When we get compared to a team like Drexel (as Ozone suggests), who had wins over teams like Syracuse and Villanova, we don't stand a chance. They will be a bubble team. But I still think that the tendency of the selection committee is to bypass a team like Drexel, and take a 17-13 team from a power conference that has a higher SOS.I hope I'm wrong, but this is why I think we have no chance in hell of getting an At-Large, no matter how many more games we win from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Another, less attractive scenario is to win the NIT or at least make it to the final four there. I don't recall any MAC team in the recent history making the final 4 in the NIT. I want to say a certain unnamed school near Route 43 got to the final 8 in 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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