zipper Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Hop on over to the MACBBs - Clemson and S. Carolina are out of bowl consideration. It appears Akron U might have an opportunity to go to a bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Wow! I read that those same posts, but guess who is right next to us. Marshall would get the nod before us because of their fan base. Theoretically, we should be going because we won the head to head matchup. This is a huge example of why the bowl system is wrong. The MAC should have four teams bowling for sure, which is great for the conference, but I would be really upset if Marshall gets in. Our guys played their tails off that game, and they deserve to go before Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zff Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I really doubt the MAC is going to help a team that is leaving the conference make a bowl game. I think the Zips have the inside track...........We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 How bad does the Middle Tenn State loss hurt now ? Not complaining but 7-4 and not letting that one slip away and we might be bowling !! Who knew ? Who would've ever guessed ? ESPN potential bowl matchups - MPC Computers -- Akron vs UTEP - Independence -- Akron vs Iowa State Marshall seems to have the inside track if it comes down direclty against them for a spot from the 4 ESPN projections. F-Marshall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ESPN Bowl Predictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 ZFF I'm in your court thinking that the MAC office won't be helping Marshall much. But, remember, this is a buisness. Knowing how well Akron travels and how well Marshall travels, I think it's going to be tough for the MAC to meet any attendence commitments if UA goes to a Bowl anywhere but Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I've heard Boise, Idaho is nice in December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelegazna Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 I thought I read somewhere HERE *before* Clemson and South Carolina bowed out that there were 60 bowl eligible teams for 58 spots? Doesn't this mean EVERY Bowl eligible team gets to go now? CFN.com seems to think so, as they have Akron, Miami, Marshall, BG, Toledo, and Northern Illinois ALL going to bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zip88 Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 CFN News projects Akron vs Fresno State in Silicon Valley Classic CFN BOWL PROJECTIONS ESPN projects Akron vs UTEP in MPC Computers or vs Iowa State in Independence Bowl ESPN BOWL PROJECTIONS Even if none of it happens, just to have our name mentioned as a bowl team... I never thought I would live to see the day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OLDSCHOOLZIP Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 It's official, I've heard it from a very reliable inside source. AD Mike Thomas has been contacted by reps from both the Silicon Valley Bowl as well as the Independence Bowl. This doesn't set anything in stone, but thats a great sign that they are at least in contact and considering our team. Supposedly, both bowls are very interested in showcasing Frye to the nation. South Carolina and Clemson declaring themselves Bowl ineligible has really made the situation interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A-K-ROWDY Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 cbssportsline.com is now projecting the Zips in the Hawaii Bowl. Can anyone say aloha? That's now all 3 major college football sites having us projected to go bowling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 USA Today is also projecting us in the Hawaii Bowl. Bowl Projections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipper Posted November 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Here's the exact link: http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions I think we'll travel well because so many people would just be so excited about Akron being in a bowl. You all should take a peek at the verbal abuse we're getting on bobcatattack.com's football message board. Apparently they don't think we're a very good team, even though we beat Marshall and hung tight with Miami (not to mention beating them). They're also ragging on our attendance issues - and they had a whopping 130 more fans per game on average. Gall or idiocy - you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollautt Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 =>The way I see it: ACC-6# Big East-4 (5-5 Syracuse at BC)—will get 4 Big Ten-6 (6-5 N’western at Hawaiil)—will get 7 Big 12-7 (5-5 Nebraska H. vs. Colorado)—will get 8 CUSA-4 (5-4 So. Miss H. vs. UAB, at Cal/5-5 TCU v. Tulane/4-5 SFU H. vs. Memphis, H. vs. Pitt/4-5 Tulane at TCU, H. vs. L’ville)—will get 5 MAC-6 MWC-3 PAC 10-5 SEC-6 (5-5 Arkansas H. vs. LSU )—will get 6# Sun Belt-2 WAC-3 (5-5 Hawaii H. v. N’western, H. v. Mich. St.)—will get 3 Indys-2 # 6-5 Clemson and 6-5 S. Carolina pulled out of bowl contention due to fights 56 Bowl Spots: Currently 54 bowl eligible teams (56 if would have counted Clemson and S.Carolina) 9 teams on bowl bubble (i.e. not eligible, but mathmatically can become eligible) I project 3 bubble teams will become eligible (N’western, Nebraska, and TCU). I project there will by 57 bowl eligible teams (59 if count Clemson and S. Carolina) for the 56 bowl spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Gall or idiocy - you choose. How about jelousy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ziiiiiiip...Zip go the Zippers&# Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Heard from one of the guys, JD has called a team meeting for 2:30 today. Perhaps this pertains to a bowl berth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 USA Today is also projecting us in the Hawaii Bowl. No that is UAB-BGSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 USA Today now has us in the Houston Bowl. All the jumping around is making me nervous. I hope things are not sliding away. Maybe we were all premature with our hopes. We should know more after this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 There are 28 Bowls. Orange, Rose, Sugar, Fiesta, New Orleans, Tangerine, Vegas, GMAC, Holiday, Emerald, Sun, Music City, Outback, Cotton, Fort Worth, Hawaii, Motor City, MPC Computers, Insight, Independence, Silicon Valley, Alamo, Houston, Continental Tire, Peach, Liberty, Gator, and Capital One. There are currently 54 bowl eligible teams including South Carolina and Clemson. There are also five teams with the possibility of being eligible. Hawaii is 5-5 with 5 Div. 1-A wins -- home games with Northwestern (6-5) and Michigan State (5-6) left. Michigan State 5-6 with 5 Div. 1-A wins -- at Hawaii (5-5) left. Southern Mississippi 5-4 with 5 Div. 1-A wins at Alabama Birmingham (7-3) and at California (9-1). Syracuse 5-5 with 5 Div. 1-A wins at Boston College (8-2) left. TCU at 5-5 with 5 Div. 1-A wins at Tulane (4-5) left. As far as I can figure out all bowl eligible teams get a bid if bowl eligible means 6 Div-1 wins. According to collegefootballnews they have three teams listed going bowling with less than 6 Div. 1-A wins. North Carolina 6-5 and has apparently accepted a bid with only 5 Div. 1-A wins -- no. 6 was William and Mary. Minnesota 5 Div. 1-A wins -- no. 6 was against lllinois State. Nebraska 4 Div. 1 A wins with a game against Colorado left and one win against Western Illinois. My big question is after reading various sites is what does bowl eligible mean? Is it 6 wins is it a .500 record or is it 6 Div. 1-A wins. It seems you can schedule Ashland, Tiffin and Baldwin Wallace for your three OCC games and then win three MAC games and be bowl eligible. gozips.com says the Zips chances are slim and the Silicon Valley Bowl isn't in the running. I'm very confused. Someone help me understand. According to gozips.com key games to watch this Friday are Nebraska/Colorado and Arkansas/LSU -- Arkansas and Nebraska both have less 4 Div. 1 - A wins. Nebraska is favored by 3 and LSU by 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 WHO'S BOWL ELIGIBLE? * Teams playing 12-game schedules must win 7 games against I-A teams * Teams playing 11-game schedules must win 6 games against I-A teams * x — includes win over non-Division I-A team (teams may include one of these toward I-A total ever four years) * y — 12-game schedule It seems x maybe what keeps the Zips from a bowl game and teams like Nebraska and others in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 WHO'S BOWL ELIGIBLE? * Teams playing 12-game schedules must win 7 games against I-A teams * Teams playing 11-game schedules must win 6 games against I-A teams * x — includes win over non-Division I-A team (teams may include one of these toward I-A total ever four years) * y — 12-game schedule BIG ZIP is correct. The above consitutes the basic rules. However, I want some one to explain to me how it is that every single bowl eligible I-A team that has one of its six wins against a I-AA opponent is being considered as a qualifier. These teams include: Nebraska, Tulane, Wyoming, Alabama, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, and UCONN Surely at least one of these powerhouses claimed a I-AA victory to bowl qualify in the past four years. Or is it the next four years? Or is this simply a shell game? UCONN hasn't even been a I-A school for four years. I count forty-eight actual qualifiers with four "bubble" qualifiers giving a field of 52. The games this coming weekend will largely determine the field. As Zips fans we best hope and pray that there are no upsets (sic) or other phony baloney shenanigans. Z.I.P.s beloved 'Bows best throttle Northwestern. Hawai'i also has to beat Michigan State in order to qualify. Some how I don't think Tommy Chang can pull this off. LSU chokes at pathetic Arkansas . Colorado vs Nebraska is a toss up since its in Lincoln. Tulane isn't going to beat TCU. Thus, count TCU as the fifty third team in the field. Boston College being a highly ethical Catholic school chokes at home against a sorry Syracuse team to let the Orange slide in. UAB is at Southern Miss. But Southern Miss has an upcoming home game against California who is 9-1 and wont cotton to a fix. So, Southern Miss is toast. Memphis chokes at South Florida to help their cause. South Florida also has a win against a I-AA opponent. Its not the legitimate games that I fear. Its the history of certain conferences that take care of their own. Its like the Zips basketball game down at UNC last year. The Zips out score UNC something like twelve field goals and lose the game because UNC shoots fifty or so free throws to the Zips seven. Capice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 It seems x maybe what keeps the Zips from a bowl game and teams like Nebraska and others in the picture. Please clarify. You are saying that another team is going to get credit for the DI-AA "X" win on their record. Akron has only played DI-A teams this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsrifle Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 You all should take a peek at the verbal abuse we're getting on bobcatattack.com's football message board. Apparently they don't think we're a very good team, even though we beat Marshall and hung tight with Miami (not to mention beating them). They're also ragging on our attendance issues - and they had a whopping 130 more fans per game on average. Gall or idiocy - you choose. Now that UCF has finished their perfect season, the OU fans are working hard to make OU my new most hated school. I somehow feel that justice has been served to UCF for all their smack talking and now, I'll have to find a new most hated team. When I went to the OU game, there were several VERY rude fans near the Akron section. Leaving Athens, all I heard on the post game show was how Akron wasn't very good and that OU was actually a better team but gave up too many turnovers. I couldn't believe what I was hearing...HELLO, we just beat you guys. Now, they are giving us $#!+ for being eligible for a bowl? Hey don't give us $#!+ because the system tilted in our favor...we didn't even think about getting to a bowl last year or in 99 when we had 7 wins. As far as the attendence thing, I know there were more than 20,000 at the game last Saturday. A little more thought makes me think there is something more going on here. I thought the attendence figures for both Buffalo and Ball state seemed high. I think we got nailed on it and someone made the decision to chop some numbers off the top of the Miami game so we don't get busted. Finally on the attendence thing, are they busting Miami's balls because they didn't avg. 15,000? They are the East Champs and got screwed by weather, is OU better than Miami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 X is the ability for teams to include wins over Div. 1-AA opponents once every four years. There would be far fewer eligible teams if this little loop hole wasn't in effect. Nebraska for example wouldn't have a chance even if they beat Colorado because one of their wins was against a Div. 1-AA opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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