Akron & Ohio U control their own....

[Marty McFly]

DESTINYSomething that I figured out while eating lunch today.Akron and Ohio both control their own destiny. If Akron goes 3-0, or 2-1 AND beats Ohio, Akron would be 3rd seed p/ tiebreaking proceedures (Akron beating OH head to head 2 times)BUT --Ohio controls their own destiny. If they win their last 3 MAC games, they would be the #3 seed over AkronHere's how...As of right now, Akron holds a 1 game lead over Ohio.Remaining MAC ScheduleAkron (9-4)3/1 Buffalo3/4 @ Ohio3/9 Can'tOhio (8-5)3/1 @ Miami3/4 Akron3/9 BuffaloAccording to tiebreaking proceedures - If the two teams tie at 11-5, the tiebreaker would be head to head, and it would be a split. 2nd one would be record vs. #1 team (Can't), which Ohio split with. 3rd one would be record vs. #2 (West Mich) and Ohio beat them 57-54.Basically, I may be the first person to say this, but GO MIAMI!!! A Redhawk win over Ohio would give Akron a litte bit more wiggle room. (Although if OU goes 2-1, and Akron loses to them and Can't- well...we're the 4th seed)This also means that if Ohio goes 3-0, the Akron-Can't game on 3/9 would mean nothing as far as seeding goes, as Ohio would have already wrapped up the #3 seed. Their game against Buffalo is a 2 pm game, while Akron-Can't is 6 pm

[Zip_ME87]

DESTINYSomething that I figured out while eating lunch today.Akron and Ohio both control their own destiny. If Akron goes 3-0, or 2-1 AND beats Ohio, Akron would be 3rd seed p/ tiebreaking proceedures (Akron beating OH head to head 2 times)BUT --Ohio controls their own destiny. If they win their last 3 MAC games, they would be the #3 seed over AkronHere's how...As of right now, Akron holds a 1 game lead over Ohio.Remaining MAC ScheduleAkron (9-4)3/1 Buffalo3/4 @ Ohio3/9 Can'tOhio (8-5)3/1 @ Miami3/4 Akron3/9 BuffaloAccording to tiebreaking proceedures - If the two teams tie at 11-5, the tiebreaker would be head to head, and it would be a split. 2nd one would be record vs. #1 team (Can't), which Ohio split with. 3rd one would be record vs. #2 (West Mich) and Ohio beat them 57-54.Basically, I may be the first person to say this, but GO MIAMI!!! A Redhawk win over Ohio would give Akron a litte bit more wiggle room. (Although if OU goes 2-1, and Akron loses to them and Can't- well...we're the 4th seed)This also means that if Ohio goes 3-0, the Akron-Can't game on 3/9 would mean nothing as far as seeding goes, as Ohio would have already wrapped up the #3 seed. Their game against Buffalo is a 2 pm game, while Akron-Can't is 6 pm

Please help me understand...why does the #3 seed matter? If you don't win the MAC regular season title, then all that really matters, IMHO, is being at least the #4 seed...i.e., the first round bye. I believe the Zips will achieve this with 1 more MAC win. Of course I want the Zips to win all of their remaining games, but I'll breathe much easier when they've guaranteed themselves no lower than the #4 seed.Winning the MAC regular season guarantees at minimum a berth in the NIT. The #2, #3, and #4 seeds in the MAC tournament, to me, are all of equal value to the team.

[zipsbandman]

DESTINYSomething that I figured out while eating lunch today.Akron and Ohio both control their own destiny. If Akron goes 3-0, or 2-1 AND beats Ohio, Akron would be 3rd seed p/ tiebreaking proceedures (Akron beating OH head to head 2 times)BUT --Ohio controls their own destiny. If they win their last 3 MAC games, they would be the #3 seed over AkronHere's how...As of right now, Akron holds a 1 game lead over Ohio.Remaining MAC ScheduleAkron (9-4)3/1 Buffalo3/4 @ Ohio3/9 Can'tOhio (8-5)3/1 @ Miami3/4 Akron3/9 BuffaloAccording to tiebreaking proceedures - If the two teams tie at 11-5, the tiebreaker would be head to head, and it would be a split. 2nd one would be record vs. #1 team (Can't), which Ohio split with. 3rd one would be record vs. #2 (West Mich) and Ohio beat them 57-54.Basically, I may be the first person to say this, but GO MIAMI!!! A Redhawk win over Ohio would give Akron a litte bit more wiggle room. (Although if OU goes 2-1, and Akron loses to them and Can't- well...we're the 4th seed)This also means that if Ohio goes 3-0, the Akron-Can't game on 3/9 would mean nothing as far as seeding goes, as Ohio would have already wrapped up the #3 seed. Their game against Buffalo is a 2 pm game, while Akron-Can't is 6 pm

Please help me understand...why does the #3 seed matter? If you don't win the MAC regular season title, then all that really matters, IMHO, is being at least the #4 seed...i.e., the first round bye. I believe the Zips will achieve this with 1 more MAC win. Of course I want the Zips to win all of their remaining games, but I'll breathe much easier when they've guaranteed themselves no lower than the #4 seed.Winning the MAC regular season guarantees at minimum a berth in the NIT. The #2, #3, and #4 seeds in the MAC tournament, to me, are all of equal value to the team.

It matters big time. Look at the side of the 4 seed and look at the side of the three seed. Would you really want to see Can't State before the championship game? Look at how it worked for Miami last year. They were in the same situation to slide through while we had Can't beating us up in the semi's. By the fourth quarter of the final game, we were dead tired. I see a similar scenario if Can't and Ohio would have to play each other. Going into the tournament as underdogs and in the 3 seed would be a potent formula for the zips.

[Zip_ME87]

DESTINYSomething that I figured out while eating lunch today.Akron and Ohio both control their own destiny. If Akron goes 3-0, or 2-1 AND beats Ohio, Akron would be 3rd seed p/ tiebreaking proceedures (Akron beating OH head to head 2 times)BUT --Ohio controls their own destiny. If they win their last 3 MAC games, they would be the #3 seed over AkronHere's how...As of right now, Akron holds a 1 game lead over Ohio.Remaining MAC ScheduleAkron (9-4)3/1 Buffalo3/4 @ Ohio3/9 Can'tOhio (8-5)3/1 @ Miami3/4 Akron3/9 BuffaloAccording to tiebreaking proceedures - If the two teams tie at 11-5, the tiebreaker would be head to head, and it would be a split. 2nd one would be record vs. #1 team (Can't), which Ohio split with. 3rd one would be record vs. #2 (West Mich) and Ohio beat them 57-54.Basically, I may be the first person to say this, but GO MIAMI!!! A Redhawk win over Ohio would give Akron a litte bit more wiggle room. (Although if OU goes 2-1, and Akron loses to them and Can't- well...we're the 4th seed)This also means that if Ohio goes 3-0, the Akron-Can't game on 3/9 would mean nothing as far as seeding goes, as Ohio would have already wrapped up the #3 seed. Their game against Buffalo is a 2 pm game, while Akron-Can't is 6 pm

Please help me understand...why does the #3 seed matter? If you don't win the MAC regular season title, then all that really matters, IMHO, is being at least the #4 seed...i.e., the first round bye. I believe the Zips will achieve this with 1 more MAC win. Of course I want the Zips to win all of their remaining games, but I'll breathe much easier when they've guaranteed themselves no lower than the #4 seed.Winning the MAC regular season guarantees at minimum a berth in the NIT. The #2, #3, and #4 seeds in the MAC tournament, to me, are all of equal value to the team.

It matters big time. Look at the side of the 4 seed and look at the side of the three seed. Would you really want to see Can't State before the championship game? Look at how it worked for Miami last year. They were in the same situation to slide through while we had Can't beating us up in the semi's. By the fourth quarter of the final game, we were dead tired. I see a similar scenario if Can't and Ohio would have to play each other. Going into the tournament as underdogs and in the 3 seed would be a potent formula for the zips.

I understand the matchups. But, the way MAC teams beat up on each other, I just don't buy it. Look what happened to the Zips in 2006...should have beaten Toledo in the semis, but didn't.

[Quickzips]

DESTINYSomething that I figured out while eating lunch today.Akron and Ohio both control their own destiny. If Akron goes 3-0, or 2-1 AND beats Ohio, Akron would be 3rd seed p/ tiebreaking proceedures (Akron beating OH head to head 2 times)BUT --Ohio controls their own destiny. If they win their last 3 MAC games, they would be the #3 seed over AkronHere's how...As of right now, Akron holds a 1 game lead over Ohio.Remaining MAC ScheduleAkron (9-4)3/1 Buffalo3/4 @ Ohio3/9 Can'tOhio (8-5)3/1 @ Miami3/4 Akron3/9 BuffaloAccording to tiebreaking proceedures - If the two teams tie at 11-5, the tiebreaker would be head to head, and it would be a split. 2nd one would be record vs. #1 team (Can't), which Ohio split with. 3rd one would be record vs. #2 (West Mich) and Ohio beat them 57-54.Basically, I may be the first person to say this, but GO MIAMI!!! A Redhawk win over Ohio would give Akron a litte bit more wiggle room. (Although if OU goes 2-1, and Akron loses to them and Can't- well...we're the 4th seed)This also means that if Ohio goes 3-0, the Akron-Can't game on 3/9 would mean nothing as far as seeding goes, as Ohio would have already wrapped up the #3 seed. Their game against Buffalo is a 2 pm game, while Akron-Can't is 6 pm

Please help me understand...why does the #3 seed matter? If you don't win the MAC regular season title, then all that really matters, IMHO, is being at least the #4 seed...i.e., the first round bye. I believe the Zips will achieve this with 1 more MAC win. Of course I want the Zips to win all of their remaining games, but I'll breathe much easier when they've guaranteed themselves no lower than the #4 seed.Winning the MAC regular season guarantees at minimum a berth in the NIT. The #2, #3, and #4 seeds in the MAC tournament, to me, are all of equal value to the team.

It matters big time. Look at the side of the 4 seed and look at the side of the three seed. Would you really want to see Can't State before the championship game? Look at how it worked for Miami last year. They were in the same situation to slide through while we had Can't beating us up in the semi's. By the fourth quarter of the final game, we were dead tired. I see a similar scenario if Can't and Ohio would have to play each other. Going into the tournament as underdogs and in the 3 seed would be a potent formula for the zips.

I understand the matchups. But, the way MAC teams beat up on each other, I just don't buy it. Look what happened to the Zips in 2006...should have beaten Toledo in the semis, but didn't.

MAC teams do have a tendency to beat up on each other, but some of them do it more than others. Miami and Can't in particular are two teams that will really wear you down. Those teams most likely will be on the 1/4 side of the bracket. Teams on the 2/3 side of the bracket, not so much. Western and Central can put up a fight, but nothing near what Can't's all around athleticism and Miami's smothering defense would give you. Ball State, Eastern Michigan and Northern Illinois are the bottom of the barrel in the West. I don't think for one minute that the loss to Northern Illinois is indicative of how we would do against them in the tourney. Sorry to any Huskie fans out there, but that one was just a total fluke. If you wanna deal with Miami and Can't to try and get to the finals so be it, myself and most of the rest of Zipsnation I'd imagine would rather have to go through CMU/Ball State and Western.

[skip-zip]

Without a doubt....If you can't get the #1 seed, you are absolutely playing for the better draw. And the #3 spot is the better draw. The 4 spot is certainly going to be more physically and emotionally demanding, since it likely means a Miami or Ohio game in the quarterfinals, and a Can't matchup in the semis.From the 3 spot, we'll likely get BG, Eastern or Central in the quarters, and Western in the semis.That's going to make quite a difference.

[GoZips88]

ANYTHING can happen come tourney time but give me that #3 seed. The less I have to play Miami, OU and Can't the better. Some are hoping for a Akron/Can't final ... I for one wouldn't mind seeing Can't head home early. Path of least resistance to The Dance.

[rowdy52]

ANYTHING can happen come tourney time but give me that #3 seed. The less I have to play Miami, OU and Can't the better. Some are hoping for a Akron/Can't final ... I for one wouldn't mind seeing Can't head home early. Path of least resistance to The Dance.

I agree. Let the other East teams beat up on each other, wear each other out, and send each other home. While it would be exciting and a big draw to see an Akron vs Cant match up in the finals, I dont know if I could take that much. Unless you have a very worn out Cant team by then which could happen. The bottom line...I just want to win and get into The Dance as he said.

[skip-zip]

Well, I would like to see Can't get eliminated early also. But, and Akron/Can't final would be good for the conference and would produce a very exciting weekend for NE Ohio college basketball fans.

[Zip_ME87]

I agree with all the points of view here that it would be nice to have the path of least resistance, but remember we lost to both Central and Western already this year. Plus, I'd love to see the Akron/Can't final.At this point, though, I prefer to take it one step at a time. That is, win the Buffalo game and guarantee the 1st round bye. Then worry about moving up the seeding.