K-Roo Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 So let me summarizeThe big news is we said "No" to a home game with some big names to play a road game at UNC Greensboro??? (UNC Greensboro Spartans are in the Southern Conference with Appy State, Chattanooga, Elon, W Carolina, Davidson, Ga Southern, Charleston, Wofford, Furman and Citadel. Finished 19-12 third in SoCon North)We would have taken the games if we were more experienced? WTF? Sorry but you take em when you can get em.....To be the best you gotta beat the best. To beat the best you gotta play the best (a la Gonzaga) and we turned down home games??? What are we afraid of???sheesh....Who were the names????Oh and the EKU tourney? Didn't we beat Mississippi State in San Juan a few years back (83-72 2005)? Then fell to Clemson??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted June 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 LA Zips Fan, that's a nice idea. I believe that KD would like to set up an annual event along those lines. EKU's tournament is a one time exempt (allows teams toplay more than the 28 game limit) tournament. EKU's tournament is probably part of a larger picture. I am not sure just how it works. Perhaps like the Coach's Classic the Zipsplayed in two years ago at Texas Tech.Schools may run a tournament annually. But, they are not exempt. Thus, if you play two games they count as two games. An exempt tournament only counts as one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted June 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 K-Roo, where is the problem? Do you not understand that your coaches know what they are doing?You wrote: "The big news is we said "No" to a home game with some big names to play a road game at UNC Greensboro???"I previously posted that the big time opponents were smelling blood. While the Zips are talented they are YOUNG. That brings the big fish. They sense two "lick theirchops" wins. The Zips need wins, not a butt kicking from a major-major. We are dealing with a team that is not only young they have never played together as a teambefore. They will be green as grass.The objective is to win at least twenty games and be in position for an NIT bid. With this young team a trip to the NIT would be a fine accomplishment. Get wins againstother mid-majors; not loses to high majors. The coaches know what they are doing. Sure, they would love to play and beat the ACC mega-majors. That is a pipe dream. UNC Greensboro is pretty much the same caliber as Illinois-Chicago Circle. It was a nice recovery from a bad situation. This is an opponent the Zips can beat twice.You wrote: "We would have taken the games if we were more experienced? WTF? Sorry but you take em when you can get em....."Please go back and read my earlier post. I stated that if the Zips were a Junior-Senior laden team the big fish would NOT schedule us.You wrote: "To be the best you gotta beat the best. To beat the best you gotta play the best (a la Gonzaga) and we turned down home games??? What are we afraid of???"It is not a matter of being afraid. It is a matter of wise planning. The coaches know what they are doing. Do you know what coaches who accumulate 9-18 recordsend up doing? That's right. They sell used cars for a living. Alumni never pat that coach on the back and console him on losing to Duke, North Carolina, Texas,Kentucky, etc. No, they write letters to the university president requesting that coach be fired.While playing in the NIT may not be as much fun as playing in the NCAA tourney it sure beats sitting at home during the post seasonYou wrote: "Who were the names????"I think the coaching staff would prefer to keep that information to themselves. Please respect that.Yes, the Zips defeated Mississippi State at the San Juan Shootout a couple of years ago. A small upset as that Zips team was a Junior-Senior team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Roo Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I had a big long post ready for you.. but it isn't worth it if I have to explain the difference between a home game vs a mega-major and a road game at UNC Greensboro.Am I alone on this???For the record, your previous post started the higher expectations:"Playing West Virginia this year at home might happen. Due to unforeseen circumstances a team that the Zips scheduled for a home-n-home series was suppose to play in Akron this year. They want out of the contract. Apparently they are willing to pay a substantial penalty and give us a home game next season. They will not get a home game per the penalties in the contract. This leaves an open home date that was suppose to have been filled. This team is NOT any one I have previously mentioned. The Zips may have to buy a home game. Problem is that most schools have already filled their schedule.There is a silver cloud will a black lining hanging near by. A high major-major is willing come to the JAR this year as part of a home-n-home deal. Problem is that the Akron coaching staff view this as two loses. They are probably right considering the high major that made the offer. Perhaps the follow up return game could be put off until 2010-11 season. The Zips should be competitive with anyone then.Forget PITT. They will not play Akron in the foreseeable future. Certainly not as long as rubber band legs Jamie Dixon is the head coach. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flomo-genized Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Here's OU's OOC schedule for comparison:Home games -Holy CrossBucknellSt Francis-NYRoad/neutral -@George Mason@Marshall@Delaware@Xavier@ Louisville, Indiana State, Northern Arizona (UL tournament)@Bracket busterThat actually isn't OU's complete schedule. Here it is:2008-2009 Basketball ScheduleBobcat ClassicNov. 14 Exhibition: TBANov. 15 Bryant Nov. 29 @ George Mason Dec. 3 Tulsa (home and home)Louisville Tournament Dec 6-8Indiana State Dec. 6Louisville Dec. 7N. Arizona Dec. 8Dec. 10 @ XavierDec. 13 @ Delaware (@ Delaware in ’09, host in ’10)Dec. 17 @ Marshall (4-year deal)Dec. 22 Holy CrossDec. 30 St. FrancisJan. 3 BucknellFeb. 23 BracketBustersLast non-conference game: unofficial right now, but it will be at Austin Peay in December (home and home)http://www.troopsports.com/52.htmlNot great, but not horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 According to coach McFadden the 2008-09 non-conference schedule will be released soon. All games are set except for the two opponents we will face in the EKU exempt tournament.Replacing UIC with UNC-Greensboro slightly improved the Zips OOC strength of schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Does anybody have any info about this exempt tournament at EKU? As far as I can tell, it doesn't actually exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted July 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 An unofficial look at the 2008-09 non-conference schedule:Home Games:exhibition gameNorth Carolina A & TWinthropCanisiusSt. Francis of NYDayton (December 6th)Away Games:@Niagara@Virginia Commonwealth (December 17th)@Mississippi State@Youngstown State (late January, 2009)@UNC- Greensboro@Eastern Kentucky exempt tournament (3 games)@Rhode Island (January 3rd, 2009)@Bracket BusterThis is ALL that I know. Real schedule may be posted this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 That looks like an entirely winnable schedule. Any loss will be a dissapointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdZip Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 That looks like an entirely winnable schedule. Any loss will be a dissapointment.VCU will be very tough at their place. How much did Dayton lose that you would deem them an easy game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 That looks like an entirely winnable schedule. Any loss will be a dissapointment.VCU will be very tough at their place. How much did Dayton lose that you would deem them an easy game?I never said it they would be easy, just that they are winnable games. We were a bad call away from taking Dayton to triple OT at their place, and playing in the JAR gives us a huge advantage. VCU will be tough, but winnable. I don't see any impending blowouts on the schedule, and I am hoping that the athleticism of the new players will help us close out games better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 @Virginia Commonwealth (December 17th)@UNC- GreensboroI like this. I got to see the Zips play once last year at Winthrop and now I can see them TWICE next year. The VCU game is a stretch, but I can tie that into a business trip to Richmond and maybe take a customer to the game and expense the tickets.VCU has a good team with a good young coach. That should be a good game to watch. I don't know much about UNC Greensboro, but you can read about them here. It looks like they play in the big arena in Greensboro (20,000 seats, former location of the ACC Tournament). I'm pretty sure they play in the same conference as Winthrop (Southern Conference) so the competition will be quality. These two games will be good for the Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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