This is all true and I completely agree Buck, I'm just saying out of the last four year's "Big Opponent", Penn State seems the best opportunity to get that marquee win over a Big-10 team, because of everything...a "perfect storm" situation if you will. We of course are still the underdog, but this is a good opportunity. Lance I agree with you...I can see 3-1 myself too. That's more of a miracle situation but I do see it as possible. More possible than last year at least. Now last year I don't think the quit, more ran out of gas. But I want to paint this for everyone: We could have been 3-1 in OOC last year. ULL should have been a win and Michigan also, frankly, should have been. We could have been 3-1 last year, there is absolutely no reason why we can't be this year.