Balsy, I'd say you were spot-on about Hack. I think the kid is great and has a high ceiling, but don't think he is "there" yet. That is both good and bad, of course, for us and opponents. His growth will obviously depend on his surrounding cast -- something a few Lions fans have not yet come to accept. He was heavily dependent on Allen Robinson last year, and while I think we have plenty of talent at WR/TE, it's going to take Christian a few games not to scan the field for ARob as his go-to guy. But, imho, Pohl is the key to the game. If our D-line can be disruptive, you guys will suffer. Holman did move the ball pretty effectively, but he also had linemen and blitzers in his face a lot. I think I'm going to disagree that UCF developed a multi-dimensional game when Holman came in -- the Knight rushing game did not dramatically improve, IIRC. BUT, Holman exploited our secondary a lot better than had DiNovo. If we can pressure Pohl like we did DiNovo (which can also throw off the rushing game), then I think Penn State wins by 10 - 14 points. Obviously the same is true for your defense/our offense. In the end, I'm going completely homer and say Penn State wins by 10. Thoughts/counter-arguments? P.S. Balsy and anyone else who visits BlackShoes, I hope you find the BSD folks very respectful. I'll be disappointed if they turn into ass-hats -- we're saving that for Rutgers and Maryland, I think.