Man I gotta try to lay out my point A. Horrible program, no winning tradition. From what I hear from, a absolutely terrible environment B. Truly only two (third this year) recruiting classes (I don't think you can count 2012 to be fair) ...... In fact, I would argue that being hired in December of 2011, that Bowden worked with what he inherited ( I really think that's fair) ...... So really 2012 was a year to get the entire staff together (including recruiting, video, and guys/gals to do the behind the scenes stuff (it is critical), Had to turn over the Medical, training, strength and conditioning group .......... That is STILL being solidified. Takes time folks .............. Record 1-11 C. 2013, the offense was coming together, but the defense needed repairs, which I believe was achieved .... Need for JC guys, tranfers to stop the bleeding on defense along with a heavier recruiting class on defense. I think we can mostly agree that although we need to continue to improve and fill holes on defense, that we have made improvements .......... Record 5-7 (Could/should have been 6-6?) D. 2014 (THE STEP BACK) .. Defense was in good shape (no real depth at DL hurt late in games ... ONE COULD ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PLAYED FRESHMEN HERE .... If there were any). Offense on the downfall . We were in the mix until the blow up of the last half of the season), Everyone knows the story ............... Record 5-7. BIG HURT ON RECRUITING !!!! No doubt So, Last year withstanding, We can agree that there was progress, maybe not immediate or even substantial, but progress if you consider at all, the logic of truly what it takes to restaff a D1 Football program (top to bottom) and when Bowden was hired. Again let me address Keener (and all passionate Zips fans)...... You are starving for a winning program, I hear you and totally understand your frustration from last year. I can understand the frustration when you look at the recruiting concerns and no impact from recruiting. I have faith in Coach Bowden (and I didn't drink any kool aid) .... The guy gave me past players names for to call and ask what he was like to play for (maybe that was a set up, but they all loved playing for the guy). My sons high school Coach (who was a GA under Bowden at Auburn) said he was a class guy and that my son would be making a mistake not to play for him..... So I'm giving him a pass BUT completely understand that your patience is much less than mine ............. I know I may have a bit of a slant toward the program that is paying for my sons education, but I'm a straight up guy and tell you that I will be pretty critical if there are not marked differences this season. ..... Especially when Coach Bowden sits in my living room and makes statements. I'm with you guys .......